Re: Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-09 Thread g
Bob Goodwin wrote:


> It seems to me there must be others who would like this feature and
> thought it might already exist. Apparently not.

perhaps you are looking at this from wrong perspective.

because thunderbird can not do what you want, and if it is important to
have notice of certain emails, why not consider using an external filter?

i do not recall which will fit your needs, but i do recall that there
are a couple that can run a script. this script could be used to play
what ever sound you want for notification.

granted, you will have to have another program running, but you would
at least get what you desire.


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Re: Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-09 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 05:40 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Tim, this is one of the rare cases where you are wrong or perhaps
> don't understand what Thunderbird does? As it is now I have it set
> to "Play a sound" when an e-mail arrives
> [/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav]. The result is a musical chord
> that plays several times an hour as e-mail is collected. Over the
> past eighty years I've developed selective hearing and usually don't
> even hear it unless I am waiting for a response to a "text message"
> or some such that may require immediate action on my part.
> 
> I receive hundreds of messages each day, those sounds only occur one
> time when a slug of messages is received and are not repeated
> endlessly until the user kills them. 

I think it's more a case you not realising what you're going to get.  As
I said, I've done that sort of thing in the past, and I'm aware of what
will happen.

Before you were talking about marking messages with filters.  Filters
work on each messages as they come through, one by one.  If piles of
messages were marked, piles of sounds would play.  Twelve messages
match, twelve dings get played.  One hundred messages get hit by the
filter, one hundred dings.  

And that was what I was getting at with the going off like a jackpot
bell.  If you queue up a hundred sound effects, they play one after
another, until each sample finishes playing.  That can last a long time,
depending on your sample, and the number of times it was triggered.  Not
a case of a bell ringing until manually silenced.

All I've seen in Thunderbird is an option to play a sound at the end of
a run, with no options to affect it depending on what mail went through
(perhaps you should try a more attention-getting sound sample).  Or
filtering options for sorting/highlighting.  Unlike some other programs,
it didn't have a way to run external programs.  Even if it did, you'd
still need to overcome the problem I mention.

Let me demonstrate, in a different way:  Mail comes in, one message is
filtered, play sound, one message isn't filtered, another message is
filtered, play sound, another message is filtered, play sound, another
message is filtered, play sound. etc., etc., etc.

Every time you see "play sound," above, it plays a sound.

To simply call something to play a sound, would mean multiple triggers.
You'd need to have some sort of one-shot routine which would only play
one side when a pile of triggers came in, within a certain time frame,
rather than playing a sound for each trigger.

Given the lack of options with Thunderbird, I think you'd either need to
try another client.  Watch a folder, directly, to do an alert when the
contents change (a file function, nothing to do with email).  Or run a
separate email watchdog program.

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Re: Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-09 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 09/07/10 01:57, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 10:16 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
>> I can tag Thunderbird received messages with color but what I
>> really need is to tag them with a sound. I would like to play a
>> unique sound as the output of an e-mail filter.
>>  
> You'll probably regret wanting that.
>
> Years ago, with another client that had filtering rules that let you do
> anything (run a program, etc.) when the rule was triggered.  It tried
> doing just what you want, just for giggles.
>
>

Yes instead of tagging a message from a particular source, to be
listed in red perhaps, I would like it to play one musical chord.

> As hundreds of mail came in from my mailing lists, it started ringing
> like a one-armed bandit machine jackpotting in a casino, slowing down
> mail processing at the same time, and kept on ding-a-linging long after
> all the mail had come through.
>
> You'd get the same thing with some IRC clients ringing their own bell
> like mad, while you logged in to some server that spewed out hundreds of
> lines of welcoming/warning text as you connected up.
>
>

Tim, this is one of the rare cases where you are wrong or perhaps
don't understand what Thunderbird does? As it is now I have it set
to "Play a sound" when an e-mail arrives
[/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav]. The result is a musical chord
that plays several times an hour as e-mail is collected. Over the
past eighty years I've developed selective hearing and usually don't
even hear it unless I am waiting for a response to a "text message"
or some such that may require immediate action on my part.

I receive hundreds of messages each day, those sounds only occur one
time when a slug of messages is received and are not repeated
endlessly until the user kills them. In fact I find them reassuring
in that I know my internet connection is working, which in my case
it is not always, due to our severe summer weather that can block
the k-band radio signal path. There was a short outage yesterday
with the "tropical depression" moving into South Texas, the far end
of my satellite path.

It seems to me there must be others who would like this feature and
thought it might already exist. Apparently not.

Bob



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Re: Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-08 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 10:16 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I can tag Thunderbird received messages with color but what I
> really need is to tag them with a sound. I would like to play a
> unique sound as the output of an e-mail filter.

You'll probably regret wanting that.

Years ago, with another client that had filtering rules that let you do
anything (run a program, etc.) when the rule was triggered.  It tried
doing just what you want, just for giggles.

As hundreds of mail came in from my mailing lists, it started ringing
like a one-armed bandit machine jackpotting in a casino, slowing down
mail processing at the same time, and kept on ding-a-linging long after
all the mail had come through.

You'd get the same thing with some IRC clients ringing their own bell
like mad, while you logged in to some server that spewed out hundreds of
lines of welcoming/warning text as you connected up.

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Thynderbird sounds -

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Goodwin

I can tag Thunderbird received messages with color but what I
really need is to tag them with a sound. I would like to play a
unique sound as the output of an e-mail filter.

I can hear the incoming mail tone from other parts of the house
but I would like to know when the message goes into one of the
filter directories I've created, else if I am waiting for a
response I have to keep coming back to the computer to see if it
signals the awaited message.

Is there a way I can do that?

Bob

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