Re: accessing a network scanning device
Louis Lagendijk lo...@fazant.net writes: On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 17:20 +0100, lee wrote: poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com writes: On 26.11.2013 21:04, lee wrote: Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? http://sane-project.meier-geinitz.de/ The documentation there assumes that the scanner is connected to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel port, which is *not* the case. Sane does support some network scanners. The problem with scanners is that there are so many different types of scanners where each requires a slightly or totally different driver (backends in Sane). Some of the backends support network scanners (for example Canon inkjets), some HP devices (if I remember correctly). There is however no Twain backend. Twain is not supported under Linux Now I wonder whether the device is really offering Twain or does it have a Twain driver that makes it usable under Windows? I don't know exactly, and I don't have windoze. I can enable/disable TWAIN support through the web interface of the device. From a scanning device that is connected via ethernet, I simply expect that I can scan via network. So in your case there is first the Twain support that is missing and second the network support. If the device really supports Twain (which is a software interface, not network) a twain driver is the first thing that is required. If that existed a network driver would be relatively easy to create. So in any case, nothing would work using TWAIN. How about this RDS/WPS scan stuff that the device supports? Could that somehow be used? -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com writes: On 26.11.2013 21:04, lee wrote: Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? http://sane-project.meier-geinitz.de/ The documentation there assumes that the scanner is connected to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel port, which is *not* the case. -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net writes: On 11/26/2013 03:04 PM, lee wrote: Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl writes: On 23.11.2013 20:04, lee wrote: Hi, how would I go about accessing a scanning device that is connected via network? /snip/ Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? XSane works perfectly over Ethernet. AAMOF, it works even when I have trouble printing with the same all-in-one device! (Epson WP-4530.) Well, how do make the scanner known to (x)sane? Do you have it connected by USB or SCSI? Do I need to install some sort of bridging software that can find a TWAIN scanner on the network and make it known to sane? -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
On 27.11.2013 17:20, lee wrote: The documentation there assumes that the scanner is connected to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel port, which is *not* the case. I agree with you *if* that *is* the case, I mean *if* it is *not* the case. Period poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 17:20 +0100, lee wrote: poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com writes: On 26.11.2013 21:04, lee wrote: Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? http://sane-project.meier-geinitz.de/ The documentation there assumes that the scanner is connected to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel port, which is *not* the case. Sane does support some network scanners. The problem with scanners is that there are so many different types of scanners where each requires a slightly or totally different driver (backends in Sane). Some of the backends support network scanners (for example Canon inkjets), some HP devices (if I remember correctly). There is however no Twain backend. Twain is not supported under Linux Now I wonder whether the device is really offering Twain or does it have a Twain driver that makes it usable under Windows? So in your case there is first the Twain support that is missing and second the network support. If the device really supports Twain (which is a software interface, not network) a twain driver is the first thing that is required. If that existed a network driver would be relatively easy to create. Louis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl writes: On 23.11.2013 20:04, lee wrote: Hi, how would I go about accessing a scanning device that is connected via network? The device is an OKI MB441 and supports TWAIN and WSD (whatever that is ...). Google hasn't been helpful at all with this. Everyone seems to assume that you would connect the scanner to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel cable and make the scanner available on the network through the computer it is connected to by running saned on the computer. I have it the other way round, the scanner is on the network and I want to access it from my computer via network. I don't know this exact device, but I'd try connecting it via Ethernet (device spec shows that it has Ethernet card and device supports quite advanced options regarding network connections.) After assigning IP address to this device check using web browser if there is any kind of web base management interface. It's highly probable that software attached to this device is designed only for Windows. It is already connected and working. The scanning functionality can be used through the panel on the device itself and has proven very useful. Settings can be made through the web interface. However, I've never seen a networked scanner with which you were able to use some sort of scanning software that lets you make settings and pick the area you want to scan for every scan you make like such software exists for scanners connected to a computer by SCSI or USB or a parallel cable. Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
On 26.11.2013 21:04, lee wrote: Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? http://sane-project.meier-geinitz.de/ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
On 11/26/2013 03:04 PM, lee wrote: Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl writes: On 23.11.2013 20:04, lee wrote: Hi, how would I go about accessing a scanning device that is connected via network? /snip/ Since the device in question supports TWAIN and TWAIN, iirc, was supposed to be some sort of standard for scanners, isn't there some software, like sane, that supports scanning over the network? XSane works perfectly over Ethernet. AAMOF, it works even when I have trouble printing with the same all-in-one device! (Epson WP-4530.) --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
accessing a network scanning device
Hi, how would I go about accessing a scanning device that is connected via network? The device is an OKI MB441 and supports TWAIN and WSD (whatever that is ...). Google hasn't been helpful at all with this. Everyone seems to assume that you would connect the scanner to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel cable and make the scanner available on the network through the computer it is connected to by running saned on the computer. I have it the other way round, the scanner is on the network and I want to access it from my computer via network. -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: accessing a network scanning device
On 23.11.2013 20:04, lee wrote: Hi, how would I go about accessing a scanning device that is connected via network? The device is an OKI MB441 and supports TWAIN and WSD (whatever that is ...). Google hasn't been helpful at all with this. Everyone seems to assume that you would connect the scanner to a computer through USB, SCSI or a parallel cable and make the scanner available on the network through the computer it is connected to by running saned on the computer. I have it the other way round, the scanner is on the network and I want to access it from my computer via network. I don't know this exact device, but I'd try connecting it via Ethernet (device spec shows that it has Ethernet card and device supports quite advanced options regarding network connections.) After assigning IP address to this device check using web browser if there is any kind of web base management interface. It's highly probable that software attached to this device is designed only for Windows. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
