Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 08/07/2012 06:17 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/08/2012 05:43 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
>> Funnily enough downloading a 3.6GB ISO to answer a simple
question isn't normally my first response. Someone must know the
answer. In any case if the images are the same as you say (you've
done this yourself?) it's not going to tell me what the difference
is. Or indeed that there's any difference, and then the only way to
test that is to burn them image and try it. Which still doesn't
explain what's going on.
>
> Sorry to say that downloading 4GB of stuff to answer simple
questions is often *my* first inclination. Only because I enjoy
getting my hands dirty and finding things out for myself. Another
reason for doing it myself is actually covered in your paragraph
above. You've asked "you've done this yourself?". Sometimes, when I
see answers here, I ask myself the same question.
>
> So, yes I've done it myself. Because I feel "more" certain
when I do the work myself...
>
> /dev/loop0 619126 619126 0 100% /mnt/iso (LiveCD)
> /dev/loop1 3717164 3717164 0 100% /mnt/iso2 (DVD)
> /dev/loop2 603008 603008 0 100% /mnt/sq (LiveCD squashfs.img)
>
> FWIW, you *don't* need to burn the image. Like I said, you loop
mount it.
>
>
I cheat - I use Midnight Commander (mc) to open the image. Also,
instead of downloading the DVD image, you could have downloaded the
net-install image. But I guess that one could have been different...

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/08/2012 05:43 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
> Funnily enough downloading a 3.6GB ISO to answer a simple question isn't 
> normally my first response. Someone must know the answer. In any case if the 
> images are the same as you say (you've done this yourself?) it's not going to 
> tell me what the difference is. Or indeed that there's any difference, and 
> then the only way to test that is to burn them image and try it. Which still 
> doesn't explain what's going on. 

Sorry to say that downloading 4GB of stuff to answer simple questions is often 
*my* first inclination.  Only because I enjoy getting my hands dirty and 
finding things out for myself.  Another reason for doing it myself is actually 
covered in your paragraph above.  You've asked "you've done this yourself?".   
Sometimes, when I see answers here, I ask myself the same question.

So, yes  I've done it myself.  Because I feel "more" certain when I do the 
work myself...

/dev/loop0   619126619126 0 100% /mnt/iso 
(LiveCD)
/dev/loop1  3717164   3717164 0 100% /mnt/iso2   
(DVD)
/dev/loop2   603008603008 0 100% /mnt/sq  
(LiveCD squashfs.img)

FWIW, you *don't* need to burn the image.  Like I said, you loop mount it.


>> If you boot the LiveCD, then hit esc to get to the boot prompt you can type 
>> "linux0 text" and all that will do is boot the LiveCD image since that is 
>> the way the CD is designed.
>>
> In fact, linux0 is the name of a menu option in the boot loader, which
> starts to explain some things. The earlier discussion in this thread
> focused on kernel images.

The kernel images are the same as well

egreshko@meimei isolinux]$ diff -s /mnt/iso/isolinux/vmlinuz0 
/mnt/iso2/isolinux/vmlinuz
Files /mnt/iso/isolinux/vmlinuz0 and /mnt/iso2/isolinux/vmlinuz are identical

>> There isn't an option to do an Install from the LiveCD in the same manner as 
>> from the DVD.  I suppose I could see how you may get that impression from 
>> the documentation link you've provided.
> Partially of course because that's exactly what it does say. I'm not
> being obtuse: it lists all the different media and then goes on to
> explain the graphical interface and the additional boot options. No
> distinction is made.

In all the releases of Fedora DVD and LiveCD, I can't recall this issue being 
brought up until now.
>
>>  Feel free to propose a correction to the documentation.
>>
> I know nearly enough now to do so, but did getting the information to
> do that really have to involve pulling nails?

Sometimes things are not easy.   Oh, and the proper idiom is "like pulling 
teeth".  :-) :-)


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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 15:17, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 08/07/2012 09:23 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>> I could do, assuming I had both to hand.  Can someone then explain why
>> the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is
>> correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD? So far as I can see
>> that should be the name of the image that gets started. Rather than
>> trying to compare them side by side and guess I was hoping someone who
>> knows could actually explain what processes are going on here.
>
> Download them?

Funnily enough downloading a 3.6GB ISO to answer a simple question
isn't normally my first response. Someone must know the answer. In any
case if the images are the same as you say (you've done this
yourself?) it's not going to tell me what the difference is. Or indeed
that there's any difference, and then the only way to test that is to
burn them image and try it. Which still doesn't explain what's going
on.

>
> If you boot the LiveCD, then hit esc to get to the boot prompt you can type 
> "linux0 text" and all that will do is boot the LiveCD image since that is the 
> way the CD is designed.
>

In fact, linux0 is the name of a menu option in the boot loader, which
starts to explain some things. The earlier discussion in this thread
focused on kernel images.

> There isn't an option to do an Install from the LiveCD in the same manner as 
> from the DVD.  I suppose I could see how you may get that impression from the 
> documentation link you've provided.

Partially of course because that's exactly what it does say. I'm not
being obtuse: it lists all the different media and then goes on to
explain the graphical interface and the additional boot options. No
distinction is made.

>  Feel free to propose a correction to the documentation.
>

I know nearly enough now to do so, but did getting the information to
do that really have to involve pulling nails?

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 16:49, Suvayu Ali  wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:44:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali  wrote:
>> > Disclaimer: I'm no expert.
>> >
>> > I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode install.  It is
>> > designed to present you a working desktop and if you like it, install to
>> > hard drive using anaconda.  A good example of a text mode live media
>> > would be the Archlinux boot image.
>> >
>>
>> This certainly appears to be the case (though not really sure why you
>> make a point of saying 'any Fedora Live media' as there's more of a
>> distinction between that and the install media), but in that case the
>> documentation at:
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ch-Boot-x86.html
>> is incorrect.
>>
>
> Confession: I haven't looked at the doc page you pointed to.
>
> I say "any Fedora Live media" because there is a distinction between
> Installation media, and Live media.  The official spins and remixes are
> live images, in the sense that you can boot to a working desktop without
> installing anything on your hard drive.  Whereas, installation media are
> the DVDs[1] which lets you install with all the installation methods and
> features supported by anaconda but *does not* give you a working desktop
> before installing to the disk.
>
> To summarise:
>
> 1. DVD installation media: no live desktop, but all installation methods
>are supported.
>
> 2. Live media: presents you a working desktop without installation,
>which can be optionally installated by limited support for different
>installation methods.
>

Thank you, I really needed that explained...

My point, which I thought was clear, but maybe looking at the doc page
would have clarified, is that that page implies there is absolutely no
difference in what happens when you go to the boot prompt on the
different media. Since no-one else has apparently read it, here is the
appropriate section:

"You can boot the installation program using any one of the following
media (depending upon what your system can support):

"Fedora DVD — Your machine supports a bootable DVD drive and you
have the Fedora installation DVD.
"Fedora live CD — Your machine supports a bootable CD drive and
you have a Fedora live CD.
"Boot CD-ROM — Your machine supports a bootable CD-ROM drive and
you want to perform network or hard drive installation.
"USB flash drive — Your machine supports booting from a USB device.
"PXE boot via network — Your machine supports booting from the
network. This is an advanced installation path. Refer to "Chapter 13,
Setting Up an Installation Server for additional information on this
method. "

It then goes on to describe the boot menu (which is correct) and the
alternate boot prompt, which is where it goes wrong.

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:44:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali  wrote:
> > Disclaimer: I'm no expert.
> >
> > I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode install.  It is
> > designed to present you a working desktop and if you like it, install to
> > hard drive using anaconda.  A good example of a text mode live media
> > would be the Archlinux boot image.
> >
> 
> This certainly appears to be the case (though not really sure why you
> make a point of saying 'any Fedora Live media' as there's more of a
> distinction between that and the install media), but in that case the
> documentation at:
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ch-Boot-x86.html
> is incorrect.
> 

Confession: I haven't looked at the doc page you pointed to.

I say "any Fedora Live media" because there is a distinction between
Installation media, and Live media.  The official spins and remixes are
live images, in the sense that you can boot to a working desktop without
installing anything on your hard drive.  Whereas, installation media are
the DVDs[1] which lets you install with all the installation methods and
features supported by anaconda but *does not* give you a working desktop
before installing to the disk.

To summarise:

1. DVD installation media: no live desktop, but all installation methods
   are supported.

2. Live media: presents you a working desktop without installation,
   which can be optionally installated by limited support for different
   installation methods.

HTH

Footnotes:

[1] There are some Live DVD spins though, e.g. Games spin.


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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/07/2012 09:23 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> I could do, assuming I had both to hand.  Can someone then explain why
> the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is
> correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD? So far as I can see
> that should be the name of the image that gets started. Rather than
> trying to compare them side by side and guess I was hoping someone who
> knows could actually explain what processes are going on here.

Download them?

Anyway I really don't see the point in this line.  The LiveCD is *different* 
than the Install DVD.

If you boot the LiveCD, then hit esc to get to the boot prompt you can type 
"linux0 text" and all that will do is boot the LiveCD image since that is the 
way the CD is designed.

There isn't an option to do an Install from the LiveCD in the same manner as 
from the DVD.  I suppose I could see how you may get that impression from the 
documentation link you've provided.  Feel free to propose a correction to the 
documentation.

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

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On 08/07/2012 08:23 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 7 August 2012 12:33, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>> On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>>> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and
>>> installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk
>>> is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation
>>> for the install disc one says. I can only guess the install disc
>>> provides a different kernel image as substituting 'vmlinuz0
text' runs
>>> into problems of no root="" and runs into a backtrace. That or the
>>> documentation is wrong.
>>> There is a low resolution graphics mode in the troubleshooting
menu if
>>> that would help at all.
>>
>> You could mount the iso images of a Live CD and the Install DVD
to learn the differences.
>>
>> The kernel image is the same. The initrd.img are vastly different.
>>
>
> I could do, assuming I had both to hand. Can someone then explain why
> the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is
> correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD? So far as I can see
> that should be the name of the image that gets started. Rather than
> trying to compare them side by side and guess I was hoping someone who
> knows could actually explain what processes are going on here.
>
For some strange reason it is vmlinuz on the Install DVD and
netinstall CD, But it is linuz0 on the Live CD.
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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 12:33, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and
>> installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk
>> is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation
>> for the install disc one says. I can only guess the install disc
>> provides a different kernel image as substituting 'vmlinuz0 text' runs
>> into problems of no root="" and runs into a backtrace. That or the
>> documentation is wrong.
>> There is a low resolution graphics mode in the troubleshooting menu if
>> that would help at all.
>
> You could mount the iso images of a Live CD and the Install DVD to learn the 
> differences.
>
> The kernel image is the same.  The initrd.img are vastly different.
>

I could do, assuming I had both to hand.  Can someone then explain why
the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is
correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD? So far as I can see
that should be the name of the image that gets started. Rather than
trying to compare them side by side and guess I was hoping someone who
knows could actually explain what processes are going on here.

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and
> installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk
> is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation
> for the install disc one says. I can only guess the install disc
> provides a different kernel image as substituting 'vmlinuz0 text' runs
> into problems of no root="" and runs into a backtrace. That or the
> documentation is wrong.
> There is a low resolution graphics mode in the troubleshooting menu if
> that would help at all.

You could mount the iso images of a Live CD and the Install DVD to learn the 
differences.

The kernel image is the same.  The initrd.img are vastly different.

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali  wrote:
> Disclaimer: I'm no expert.
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 08:58:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>>
>> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and
>> installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk
>> is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation
>> for the install disc one says. I can only guess the install disc
>> provides a different kernel image as substituting 'vmlinuz0 text' runs
>> into problems of no root="" and runs into a backtrace. That or the
>> documentation is wrong.
>> There is a low resolution graphics mode in the troubleshooting menu if
>> that would help at all.
>>
>
> I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode install.  It is
> designed to present you a working desktop and if you like it, install to
> hard drive using anaconda.  A good example of a text mode live media
> would be the Archlinux boot image.
>

This certainly appears to be the case (though not really sure why you
make a point of saying 'any Fedora Live media' as there's more of a
distinction between that and the install media), but in that case the
documentation at:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ch-Boot-x86.html
is incorrect.

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Suvayu Ali
Disclaimer: I'm no expert.

On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 08:58:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> 
> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and
> installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk
> is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation
> for the install disc one says. I can only guess the install disc
> provides a different kernel image as substituting 'vmlinuz0 text' runs
> into problems of no root="" and runs into a backtrace. That or the
> documentation is wrong.
> There is a low resolution graphics mode in the troubleshooting menu if
> that would help at all.
> 

I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode install.  It is
designed to present you a working desktop and if you like it, install to
hard drive using anaconda.  A good example of a text mode live media
would be the Archlinux boot image.

HTH

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 August 2012 19:06, Dave Burns  wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Ian Malone  wrote:
>> On 6 August 2012 06:20, Richard Vickery  wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery
  wrote:
 > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:
 >>
 >> Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
 >> text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
 >> "linux text" at the "boot prompt".
 >>
 >> The fc17 install guide
 >>
 >>
 >> (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html)
 >> says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
 >> access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
 >> screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
 >> displayed. "
 >>
 >> If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
 >> while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
 >> top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
 >> text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
 >> linux".
 >>

 If I let the boot proceed without trying to force it into text mode
 and wait for the video mode error message, at that point I can hit
 ctl-alt-f3 and escape into the command line tty. At that point it asks
 for a username, and if I type in 'root' it logs me in without any
 password. I suppose I could proceed with the install, or maybe tweak
 the video setup, at that point, but I don't know what to do.



>> Something doesn't make sense here, Dave is booting the install disc, I
>> wouldn't expect there to be any files missing. So far as I can see
>> from the anaconda documentation "linux text" should work, I can try it
>> later. What disc is this exactly? Install DVD? Live disc?
>
> Hmmm, now that you ask, I suspect it is the live disk. Embarrassment.
> I was not the person who created it. Is there a different approach for
> the live disk, or should I just burn another disk with the correct
> installer on it?

Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and
installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk
is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation
for the install disc one says. I can only guess the install disc
provides a different kernel image as substituting 'vmlinuz0 text' runs
into problems of no root="" and runs into a backtrace. That or the
documentation is wrong.
There is a low resolution graphics mode in the troubleshooting menu if
that would help at all.

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-06 Thread Dave Burns
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Ian Malone  wrote:
> On 6 August 2012 06:20, Richard Vickery  wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery
>>>  wrote:
>>> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
>>> >> text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
>>> >> "linux text" at the "boot prompt".
>>> >>
>>> >> The fc17 install guide
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html)
>>> >> says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
>>> >> access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
>>> >> screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
>>> >> displayed. "
>>> >>
>>> >> If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
>>> >> while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
>>> >> top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
>>> >> text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
>>> >> linux".
>>> >>
>>> >> If I hit esc later than that, during the pretty screen with the line
>>> >> crawling along the bottom, it just switches from that view to the log
>>> >> from starting daemons.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can someone please tell me how to get into text mode? What did I do
>>> >> wrong?
>>> >> thanks,
>
>>> >
>>> > I think you are telling it to look for "linux text" and there is no such
>>> > filename in the user-group. Try typing your user-name, after which it
>>> > should
>>> > - if I correctly understand the problem -ask you for your password.
>>>
>>> If that was my problem, wouldn't the error message say something about
>>> no such username/password, rather than "Could not find kernel image:
>>> linux"? I am booting the dvd, which has no username for me yet.
>>>
>>> If I let the boot proceed without trying to force it into text mode
>>> and wait for the video mode error message, at that point I can hit
>>> ctl-alt-f3 and escape into the command line tty. At that point it asks
>>> for a username, and if I type in 'root' it logs me in without any
>>> password. I suppose I could proceed with the install, or maybe tweak
>>> the video setup, at that point, but I don't know what to do.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> TDB
>>>
>
>>
>> The problem is that you don't have that image; the OS needs that kernel
>> image to operate. You may need to re-install, or maybe - I have never tried
>> this - get that same file from somewhere on the internet, perhaps one of us.
>> I'm not so sure that the second method will work; perhaps we can get someone
>> with a lot more knowledge than I have to help.
>
> Something doesn't make sense here, Dave is booting the install disc, I
> wouldn't expect there to be any files missing. So far as I can see
> from the anaconda documentation "linux text" should work, I can try it
> later. What disc is this exactly? Install DVD? Live disc?

Hmmm, now that you ask, I suspect it is the live disk. Embarrassment.
I was not the person who created it. Is there a different approach for
the live disk, or should I just burn another disk with the correct
installer on it?
TDB

> Anyone know
> how the anaconda arguments should work?
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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-06 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:54:00AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> 
> Something doesn't make sense here, Dave is booting the install disc, I
> wouldn't expect there to be any files missing. So far as I can see
> from the anaconda documentation "linux text" should work, I can try it
> later. What disc is this exactly? Install DVD? Live disc? Anyone know
> how the anaconda arguments should work?
> 

Stupid suggestion: maybe the OP is passing the "linux text" argument to
grub and not anaconda.  AFAIR, the interface is similar enough to get
confused between the two.  If the OP can post a few pictures of the boot
screen (with a physical camera) we could rule out this possibility.

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-06 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 August 2012 06:20, Richard Vickery  wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery
>>  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
>> >> text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
>> >> "linux text" at the "boot prompt".
>> >>
>> >> The fc17 install guide
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html)
>> >> says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
>> >> access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
>> >> screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
>> >> displayed. "
>> >>
>> >> If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
>> >> while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
>> >> top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
>> >> text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
>> >> linux".
>> >>
>> >> If I hit esc later than that, during the pretty screen with the line
>> >> crawling along the bottom, it just switches from that view to the log
>> >> from starting daemons.
>> >>
>> >> Can someone please tell me how to get into text mode? What did I do
>> >> wrong?
>> >> thanks,

>> >
>> > I think you are telling it to look for "linux text" and there is no such
>> > filename in the user-group. Try typing your user-name, after which it
>> > should
>> > - if I correctly understand the problem -ask you for your password.
>>
>> If that was my problem, wouldn't the error message say something about
>> no such username/password, rather than "Could not find kernel image:
>> linux"? I am booting the dvd, which has no username for me yet.
>>
>> If I let the boot proceed without trying to force it into text mode
>> and wait for the video mode error message, at that point I can hit
>> ctl-alt-f3 and escape into the command line tty. At that point it asks
>> for a username, and if I type in 'root' it logs me in without any
>> password. I suppose I could proceed with the install, or maybe tweak
>> the video setup, at that point, but I don't know what to do.
>>
>> thanks,
>> TDB
>>

>
> The problem is that you don't have that image; the OS needs that kernel
> image to operate. You may need to re-install, or maybe - I have never tried
> this - get that same file from somewhere on the internet, perhaps one of us.
> I'm not so sure that the second method will work; perhaps we can get someone
> with a lot more knowledge than I have to help.

Something doesn't make sense here, Dave is booting the install disc, I
wouldn't expect there to be any files missing. So far as I can see
from the anaconda documentation "linux text" should work, I can try it
later. What disc is this exactly? Install DVD? Live disc? Anyone know
how the anaconda arguments should work?

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-05 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:
> >>
> >> Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
> >> text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
> >> "linux text" at the "boot prompt".
> >>
> >> The fc17 install guide
> >>
> >> (
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html
> )
> >> says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
> >> access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
> >> screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
> >> displayed. "
> >>
> >> If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
> >> while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
> >> top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
> >> text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
> >> linux".
> >>
> >> If I hit esc later than that, during the pretty screen with the line
> >> crawling along the bottom, it just switches from that view to the log
> >> from starting daemons.
> >>
> >> Can someone please tell me how to get into text mode? What did I do
> wrong?
> >> thanks,
> >> TDB
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> >
> > I think you are telling it to look for "linux text" and there is no such
> > filename in the user-group. Try typing your user-name, after which it
> should
> > - if I correctly understand the problem -ask you for your password.
>
> If that was my problem, wouldn't the error message say something about
> no such username/password, rather than "Could not find kernel image:
> linux"? I am booting the dvd, which has no username for me yet.
>
> If I let the boot proceed without trying to force it into text mode
> and wait for the video mode error message, at that point I can hit
> ctl-alt-f3 and escape into the command line tty. At that point it asks
> for a username, and if I type in 'root' it logs me in without any
> password. I suppose I could proceed with the install, or maybe tweak
> the video setup, at that point, but I don't know what to do.
>
> thanks,
> TDB
>
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The problem is that you don't have that image; the OS needs that kernel
image to operate. You may need to re-install, or maybe - I have never tried
this - get that same file from somewhere on the internet, perhaps one of
us. I'm not so sure that the second method will work; perhaps we can get
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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-05 Thread Dave Burns
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery
 wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:
>>
>> Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
>> text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
>> "linux text" at the "boot prompt".
>>
>> The fc17 install guide
>>
>> (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html)
>> says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
>> access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
>> screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
>> displayed. "
>>
>> If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
>> while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
>> top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
>> text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
>> linux".
>>
>> If I hit esc later than that, during the pretty screen with the line
>> crawling along the bottom, it just switches from that view to the log
>> from starting daemons.
>>
>> Can someone please tell me how to get into text mode? What did I do wrong?
>> thanks,
>> TDB
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>
> I think you are telling it to look for "linux text" and there is no such
> filename in the user-group. Try typing your user-name, after which it should
> - if I correctly understand the problem -ask you for your password.

If that was my problem, wouldn't the error message say something about
no such username/password, rather than "Could not find kernel image:
linux"? I am booting the dvd, which has no username for me yet.

If I let the boot proceed without trying to force it into text mode
and wait for the video mode error message, at that point I can hit
ctl-alt-f3 and escape into the command line tty. At that point it asks
for a username, and if I type in 'root' it logs me in without any
password. I suppose I could proceed with the install, or maybe tweak
the video setup, at that point, but I don't know what to do.

thanks,
TDB

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Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-04 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:

> Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
> text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
> "linux text" at the "boot prompt".
>
> The fc17 install guide
> (
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html
> )
> says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
> access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
> screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
> displayed. "
>
> If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
> while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
> top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
> text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
> linux".
>
> If I hit esc later than that, during the pretty screen with the line
> crawling along the bottom, it just switches from that view to the log
> from starting daemons.
>
> Can someone please tell me how to get into text mode? What did I do wrong?
> thanks,
> TDB
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I think you are telling it to look for "linux text" and there is no such
filename in the user-group. Try typing your user-name, after which it
should - if I correctly understand the problem -ask you for your password.
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boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-02 Thread Dave Burns
Me confused. I want to try booting the FC17 install disk in lowres or
text mode. To do this, apparently I should enter "linux lowres" or
"linux text" at the "boot prompt".

The fc17 install guide
(http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installation_Guide/ap-admin-options.html)
says, "To use boot options, enter linux option at the boot: prompt. To
access the boot: prompt on a system that displays a graphical boot
screen, press the Esc key while the graphical boot screen is
displayed. "

If I hit esc before the "fedora 17 will boot in 10 seconds" screen, or
while that is visible, I get what seems like a boot prompt - at the
top of the screen it says "boot:" and I am able to type in "linux
text". But when I hit enter, it replies "Could not find kernel image:
linux".

If I hit esc later than that, during the pretty screen with the line
crawling along the bottom, it just switches from that view to the log
from starting daemons.

Can someone please tell me how to get into text mode? What did I do wrong?
thanks,
TDB
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