Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 4:06 PM home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > But I still get the message about printer drivers being deprecated: (from > journalctl -b | grep -i cups) > > Sep 05 11:37:25 coyote cupsd[1257]: Printer drivers are deprecated and > will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See > https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 > > I thought about this quite a bit earlier this week. I was wrong to think > deprecation should be automatically handled by dnf patching or upgrading. > It could in some circumstances be crippling. I think Tim might have been > saying something similar earlier this week. > > So now the question is what do I need to do to get my workstation's > printing clean and up to date? > If your printer supports driverless printing, e.g., AirPrint, IPP, or maybe Mopria, using a network connection, you should not be using legacy drivers as support will go away. If you have a USB-only or very old printer that does not support driverless printing you need to plan for the time when it will no longer work with current linux systems. There are efforts to provde IPP adapters for some USB or legacy printers -- see https://github.com/OpenPrinting/ipp-usb -- George N. White III -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On 8/31/24 1:17 PM, home user via users wrote: good afternoon, (f39 standalone workstation, last patched Thursday, August 29) The next group of boot log messages of possible concern is related to cups. I hope that we don't need context lines for this. Here are the messages (with line numbers): - - - - - - 1643 Aug 30 08:11:12 coyote cupsd[1258]: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 - - - - - - My printer is an HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP M180nw. If it's relevant, I have something called "HPLIP Graphical Tools" on my workstation. This morning's weekly patching patched cups: - - - - - - -bash.1[~]: dnf info cups Last metadata expiration check: 1:22:27 ago on Thu 05 Sep 2024 11:26:54 AM MDT. Installed Packages Name : cups Epoch: 1 Version : 2.4.10 Release : 6.fc39 Architecture : x86_64 Size : 8.2 M Source : cups-2.4.10-6.fc39.src.rpm Repository : @System From repo: updates - - - - - - But I still get the message about printer drivers being deprecated: (from journalctl -b | grep -i cups) Sep 05 11:37:25 coyote cupsd[1257]: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 I thought about this quite a bit earlier this week. I was wrong to think deprecation should be automatically handled by dnf patching or upgrading. It could in some circumstances be crippling. I think Tim might have been saying something similar earlier this week. So now the question is what do I need to do to get my workstation's printing clean and up to date? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 4:17 PM home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > good afternoon, > > (f39 standalone workstation, last patched Thursday, August 29) > > The next group of boot log messages of possible concern is related to > cups. I hope that we don't need context lines for this. Here are the > messages (with line numbers): > > - - - - - - > > 1634 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseOrder on > line 6 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1635 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseAllow on > line 7 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1636 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive > BrowseRemoteProtocols on line 8 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1637 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseAddress > on line 9 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1638 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown browse protocol "CUPS" > ignored. > 1639 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive > JobPrivateAccess on line 97 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1640 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive > JobPrivateValues on line 98 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1641 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive > SubscriptionPrivateAccess on line 99 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1642 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive > SubscriptionPrivateValues on line 100 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > 1643 Aug 30 08:11:12 coyote cupsd[1258]: Printer drivers are deprecated > and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See > https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 > > - - - - - - > > My printer is an HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP M180nw. > The HP specs say this model supports Apple Air Print. That means it should be configured as an IPP printer for current CUPS (IPP on linux came about when Apple stopped supporting CUPS. Until Apple changes AirPrint, IPP should work with AirPrint printers). -- George N. White III -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On Tue, 2024-09-03 at 07:57 +0100, Barry wrote: > > > On 3 Sep 2024, at 01:41, Tim via users > > wrote: > > > > Modern printers are quite shite, are expensive with their consumables, > > often being cheaper to throw away and buy a whole new printer instead > > of buying new ink (even though the included demo ink packages are very > > small). And it's not that different with laser printers. Ignoring the > > consumables issue, they're short lived, anyway, as the plastic bits > > wear themselves out real quick, and unserviceable waste tanks fill up. > > Agreed with you for the inkjet printers, but that is not my experience with > laser printers. There was a discussion here a while ago that ended up with > a recommendation of laser printers and Brother printers as other brands > like HP bricking printers with 3rd party ink and other evil practices. +1 I had a Brother laser/scanner for 10 years before having to replace it (a small plastic cog in the paper feed wore out). I got another one that's slightly better with 2-sided printing. Toner is 3rd-party and very reasonably priced. I would never buy an ink-jet printer. If once in a blue moon I actually needed colour I would use a print service. poc -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
> On 3 Sep 2024, at 01:41, Tim via users wrote: > > Modern printers are quite shite, are expensive with their consumables, > often being cheaper to throw away and buy a whole new printer instead > of buying new ink (even though the included demo ink packages are very > small). And it's not that different with laser printers. Ignoring the > consumables issue, they're short lived, anyway, as the plastic bits > wear themselves out real quick, and unserviceable waste tanks fill up. Agreed with you for the inkjet printers, but that is not my experience with laser printers. There was a discussion here a while ago that ended up with a recommendation of laser printers and Brother printers as other brands like HP bricking printers with 3rd party ink and other evil practices. Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
Tim: > > As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should > > move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of > > doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck > > with that) where you can just print to your printer through the system > > with you having to do little other than choose I want to print to > > /that/ one Barry Scott: > What I understand is that it's a reality because you cannot use a > printer with a phone or tablet without the printer being discoverable > and self describing with no driver being installer. > > A printer that cannot support phones if dead in the market so the > makers have to get this working. That I understand, although how often do /those/ users actually want to print something? I think I only tried it once, to see if it worked, in the 6 years that I've owned a phone that could do that. > Based on that work it will be practical to drop most of cups. I'm not > sure when this will happen for the default Fedora install. But it was > discussed in depty in the last year on the Fedora devel list. That's making an assumption that everyone is going to abandon their printers from before this era. I can imagine a backlash. Developers are very different from users, and live in a different headspace (or fantasy land, some would say). It wasn't long ago that one declared on this list that everyone has a good graphics card (a load of nonsense) so that running very cpu-intensive desktops was not a problem. It's really only gamers who're going to be running a $1000 graphics card (or any video card actually costs more than the rest of the computer). Modern printers are quite shite, are expensive with their consumables, often being cheaper to throw away and buy a whole new printer instead of buying new ink (even though the included demo ink packages are very small). And it's not that different with laser printers. Ignoring the consumables issue, they're short lived, anyway, as the plastic bits wear themselves out real quick, and unserviceable waste tanks fill up. Yes, you can get printers with large ink or toner tanks, though they're quite expensive. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
Tim: > > As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should > > move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of > > doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck > > with that) where you can just print to your printer through the system > > with you having to do little other than choose I want to print to > > /that/ one. > Bob Marčan: > This is already solved with Postscript. The problem is the vendors, > each trying to cut off their piece of bread in their own way. Yes, ages ago, and precisely. Though I wonder if there was a licensing issue with Postscript that made other vendors decide against it, too. I have a HP office printer, it made a claim that you could simply print a PDF file presented to it via the USB-A port on the front of it. But I discovered that *ONLY* if you created that PDF on their own special software, first. It couldn't print *any* other PDF file. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
> On 2 Sep 2024, at 14:15, Tim via users wrote: > > As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should > move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of > doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck > with that) where you can just print to your printer through the system > with you having to do little other than choose I want to print to > /that/ one What I understand is that it's a reality because you cannot use a printer with a phone or tablet without the printer being discoverable and self describing with no driver being installer. A printer that cannot support phones if dead in the market so the makers have to get this working. Based on that work it will be practical to drop most of cups. I'm not sure when this will happen for the default Fedora install. But it was discussed in depty in the last year on the Fedora devel list. Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 22:45:35 +0930 "Tim via users" wrote: > On Sun, 2024-09-01 at 16:05 -0600, home user via users wrote: ... > As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should > move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of > doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck > with that) where you can just print to your printer through the system > with you having to do little other than choose I want to print to > /that/ one. ... This is already solved with Postscript. The problem is the vendors, each trying to cut off their piece of bread in their own way. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On Sun, 2024-09-01 at 16:05 -0600, home user via users wrote: > My primary concern is the message regarding a "deprecated" printer > driver. As I understand "deprecated", something should already have > happened but didn't, and the old way will soon cease working. So: > 1. What is it that should have happened but didn't, and why? > 2. I need to do something soon. What? I would think that deprecated in this case would mean something that those people managing CUPS will eventually have to deal with. From time to time you see mention in configuration, man, and log files that some /thing/ is deprecated. Possibly *you* may have to take some action eventually, if you've customised something instead of something being automatically configured. As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck with that) where you can just print to your printer through the system with you having to do little other than choose I want to print to /that/ one. I'm guessing there's going to be a mass dumping of unsupported printers at some stage (I mean disposal of no-longer usable printers in the trash). I'm also guessing that various printer makers are only going to half- heartedly support this. You'll probably get some basic print mode, but for good printing you'll have to use their special software. I can't see them giving up their vendor-lock-in mentality. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
> On 1 Sep 2024, at 23:05, home user via users > wrote: > >> I assume you get that error because your fedora is not up to date. >> Is that deliberate? >> Barry > > No. It's also not correct. Hmm... Then the reinstall should work. The error means that the version you have installed is nolonger in the repos. I'm not sure about the deprecation. Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On 9/1/24 3:43 PM, Barry wrote: On 31 Aug 2024, at 22:23, home user via users wrote: Installed package cups-1:2.4.10-3.fc39.x86_64 (from updates) not available. I assume you get that error because your fedora is not up to date. Is that deliberate? Barry No. It's also not correct. (By the way, I will not upgrade to f40 until mid-October.) I do "dnf --refresh upgrade" almost every Thursday, including this past Thursday (Aug. 26). Here are the top several lines of "dnf history cups": - - - - - - -bash.2[~]: dnf history cups ID | Command line | Date and time| Action(s) | Altered 1628 | upgrade | 2024-08-08 14:24 | I, U | 110 E< 1621 | upgrade | 2024-07-18 13:08 | C, E, I, U | 92 >< 1609 | upgrade | 2024-06-06 12:57 | C, E, I, U | 97 >< 1580 | system-upgrade upgrade | 2024-04-29 11:12 | C, D, E, I, O, | 4895 >< 1576 | upgrade | 2024-04-27 20:25 | C, E, I, U | 147 >< 1565 | upgrade | 2024-03-07 12:37 | C, E, I, U | 61 >< 1541 | upgrade | 2024-01-04 17:42 | Upgrade| 49 >< - - - - - - My primary concern is the message regarding a "deprecated" printer driver. As I understand "deprecated", something should already have happened but didn't, and the old way will soon cease working. So: 1. What is it that should have happened but didn't, and why? 2. I need to do something soon. What? By the way, after doing the "cp" that you suggested, I did do a 1-page test print from LibreOffice Write, and it worked fine. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
> On 31 Aug 2024, at 22:23, home user via users > wrote: > > Installed package cups-1:2.4.10-3.fc39.x86_64 (from updates) not available. I assume you get that error because your fedora is not up to date. Is that deliberate? Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
On 8/31/24 1:41 PM, Barry Scott wrote: On 31 Aug 2024, at 20:17, home user via users wrote: 1634 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseOrder on line 6 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. I think your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf is out of date. I do not see lines with the keywords that the logs report in the file on a fresh install. It's exactly one year old. Do you have a /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default? If so cp that over your cupsd.conf. Other wise mv the cupsd.conf out of the way and dnf reinstall cups then you will get a new version. Barry Yes, it's 9 days old. Trying the mv and dnf reinstall first... - - - - - -bash.6[cups]: ls classes.conf cupsd.conf.default printers.conf classes.conf.O cupsd.conf.O printers.conf.O client.confcupsd.conf.rpmnewsnmp.conf cups-browsed.conf cupsd.conf.rpmsave snmp.conf.default cups-browsed.conf.old cups-files.conf ssl cups-browsed.conf.rpmnew cups-files.conf.default subscriptions.conf cups-browsed.conf.rpmsave lpoptionssubscriptions.conf.O cupsd.conf ppd -bash.7[cups]: mv cupsd.conf oldcupsd.conf -bash.8[cups]: cd -bash.9[~]: dnf reinstall cups Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 63 kB/s | 28 kB 00:00 Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates1.1 MB/s | 4.5 MB 00:03 Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:11 ago on Sat 31 Aug 2024 01:56:21 PM MDT. Installed package cups-1:2.4.10-3.fc39.x86_64 (from updates) not available. Error: No packages marked for reinstall. -bash.10[~]: ls [... snip ...] -bash.11[~]: cd /etc/cups -bash.12[cups]: ls classes.conf cupsd.conf.O printers.conf classes.conf.O cupsd.conf.rpmnewprinters.conf.O client.confcupsd.conf.rpmsave snmp.conf cups-browsed.conf cups-files.conf snmp.conf.default cups-browsed.conf.old cups-files.conf.default ssl cups-browsed.conf.rpmnew lpoptionssubscriptions.conf cups-browsed.conf.rpmsave oldcupsd.confsubscriptions.conf.O cupsd.conf.default ppd -bash.13[cups]: - - - - - - That did not work. Trying your cp suggestion... -bash.13[cups]: cp cupsd.conf.default cupsd.conf -bash.14[cups]: [save message draft; reboot; check boot log] - - - - - - 1648 Aug 31 14:05:33 coyote systemd[1]: Started atd.service - Deferred execution scheduler. 1649 Aug 31 14:05:34 coyote cupsd[1280]: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 1650 Aug 31 14:05:34 coyote systemd[1]: Started crond.service - Command Scheduler. - - - - - - 9 boot log messages are gone. Thank-you Barry. What about the deprecated printer driver message? That is my greater concern. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cups messages in boot logs.
> On 31 Aug 2024, at 20:17, home user via users > wrote: > > 1634 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseOrder on > line 6 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. I think your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf is out of date. I do not see lines with the keywords that the logs report in the file on a fresh install. Do you have a /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default? If so cp that over your cupsd.conf. Other wise mv the cupsd.conf out of the way and dnf reinstall cups then you will get a new version. Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
cups messages in boot logs.
good afternoon, (f39 standalone workstation, last patched Thursday, August 29) The next group of boot log messages of possible concern is related to cups. I hope that we don't need context lines for this. Here are the messages (with line numbers): - - - - - - 1634 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseOrder on line 6 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1635 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseAllow on line 7 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1636 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseRemoteProtocols on line 8 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1637 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive BrowseAddress on line 9 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1638 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown browse protocol "CUPS" ignored. 1639 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive JobPrivateAccess on line 97 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1640 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive JobPrivateValues on line 98 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1641 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive SubscriptionPrivateAccess on line 99 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1642 Aug 30 08:11:11 coyote cupsd[1258]: Unknown directive SubscriptionPrivateValues on line 100 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. 1643 Aug 30 08:11:12 coyote cupsd[1258]: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 - - - - - - My printer is an HP Color Laser Jet Pro MFP M180nw. 1. (line 1643) What (if anything) should I do about this, or will future weekly patching or semi-annual upgrades take care of this? 2. Am I correct in assuming that the messages in lines 1634-1642 can be ignored? If no, what should I do about them? If it's relevant, I have something called "HPLIP Graphical Tools" on my workstation. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Cups shared print now showing in Windows
On 10/28/23 15:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 38 cups-2.4.7-1.fc38.x86_64 cups-lpd-2.4.7-1.fc38.x86_64 My old printer broke, so I had to replace it. I removed the old printer from cups and added the new printer. I set the new printer to network share (and it does over LPD). /etc/printcap: # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8) from the # /etc/cups/printers.conf file. All changes to this file # will be lost. HLL2300D|HLL2300D:rm=server.acme.local:rp=HLL2300D: Cups-PDF|Cups-PDF:rm=server.acme.local:rp=Cups-PDF: "Cups-PDF" shows in the Windows 10 "add printer" dialog, but my new HLL2300D does not. I have cups-lpd installed, so I just did a manual create port lpd and my new printer works fine from Windows 10. But, why can Windows 10's "Add Printer" dialog find it? Perplexed, -T A guy over oh the CUP mailing list helped me figure it out. My printer was in a suspend/power save mode. As soon as I took it out of suspend, it showed up in Windows 10. Mumble, mumble. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Cups shared print now showing in Windows
On 10/28/23 16:09, Tom Horsley wrote:
But, why can('t) Windows 10's "Add Printer" dialog find it?
In the cups web page http://localhost:631/admin there is a checkbox
for "share printers connected to this system", perhaps it isn't
checked, or your windows system is on a different subnet?
Hi Tom,
It is checked. And verified as Cups-PDF is showing
in Windows Add Printer dialog and I can add my new
printer with a manual LPR configuration. Plus
my new printer shows as shared in /etc/printcap
Wish it was so easy.
Thanks anyway.
-T
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Re: Cups shared print now showing in Windows
> But, why can('t) Windows 10's "Add Printer" dialog find it?
In the cups web page http://localhost:631/admin there is a checkbox
for "share printers connected to this system", perhaps it isn't
checked, or your windows system is on a different subnet?
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Cups shared print now showing in Windows
Hi All, Fedora 38 cups-2.4.7-1.fc38.x86_64 cups-lpd-2.4.7-1.fc38.x86_64 My old printer broke, so I had to replace it. I removed the old printer from cups and added the new printer. I set the new printer to network share (and it does over LPD). /etc/printcap: # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8) from the # /etc/cups/printers.conf file. All changes to this file # will be lost. HLL2300D|HLL2300D:rm=server.acme.local:rp=HLL2300D: Cups-PDF|Cups-PDF:rm=server.acme.local:rp=Cups-PDF: "Cups-PDF" shows in the Windows 10 "add printer" dialog, but my new HLL2300D does not. I have cups-lpd installed, so I just did a manual create port lpd and my new printer works fine from Windows 10. But, why can Windows 10's "Add Printer" dialog find it? Perplexed, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Cups spamming the journal
This came up a while back so I thought I'd mention a workaround. Background: for no apparent reason, CUPS keeps reporting "Expiring subscriptions..." to the journal, once per second, forever. Despite diligent Googling I couldn't find a definitive solution (or indeed explanation) for this, so I finally reported it to BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2233078 A proper resolution is hopefully around the corner, but in the meantime the BZ thread mentions a workaround which did solve it for me, at least temporarily. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
How do I share Cups-PDF with my Windows VM?
Hi All, Any of you guys know how to share Cups-PDF with my Windows 10 VM? W10 can see its share and I have it configured for HP's Universal PS driver, but the data never leaves Windows. Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: cups is the worst software....
This is always better cups instead go-asm Télécharger Outlook pour Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Tim via users Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2021 5:14:18 AM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Tim Subject: Re: cups is the worst software I'm really not that surprised, printing is one of the most diabolical things in computing. Virtually every printer is different. Even printers by the same manufacturer. Mostly made to work on the current version of Windows, with a specialist driver that may not ever be updated (no bug fixes, and mayn't work on your next OS release), to deal with the manufacturing shortcomings in the printer, as well as the different way each model works. You're virtually expected to throw it away and buy a new one when you cannot use your existing printer with whatever new computer system you're using. I've long since come to the conclusions that old office printers are the best, they're built like a tank and have large capacity ink/toner and paper hoppers. And, if you print from more than one device, you want a printer that connects directly to your network. It's no-longer dependent on a server computer running all the time, and each thing that wants to print only needs to be problem-solved regarding itself and the printer. In the past, I found it best to have a server handle all the printing needs for my network. Everything that wanted to print was a Fedora installation bar one Windows 2000 PC (and it could happily use IPP with my CUPS server). But, trying to do printing via SMB sharing just adds a whole extra load of headaches. You have a third networking protocol to deal with, too, plus all the Windows PCs either wanting to find the driver through a SMB share (which you have to figure out), or needing individual drivers manually installed on each Windows PC. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: cups is the worst software....
I'm really not that surprised, printing is one of the most diabolical things in computing. Virtually every printer is different. Even printers by the same manufacturer. Mostly made to work on the current version of Windows, with a specialist driver that may not ever be updated (no bug fixes, and mayn't work on your next OS release), to deal with the manufacturing shortcomings in the printer, as well as the different way each model works. You're virtually expected to throw it away and buy a new one when you cannot use your existing printer with whatever new computer system you're using. I've long since come to the conclusions that old office printers are the best, they're built like a tank and have large capacity ink/toner and paper hoppers. And, if you print from more than one device, you want a printer that connects directly to your network. It's no-longer dependent on a server computer running all the time, and each thing that wants to print only needs to be problem-solved regarding itself and the printer. In the past, I found it best to have a server handle all the printing needs for my network. Everything that wanted to print was a Fedora installation bar one Windows 2000 PC (and it could happily use IPP with my CUPS server). But, trying to do printing via SMB sharing just adds a whole extra load of headaches. You have a third networking protocol to deal with, too, plus all the Windows PCs either wanting to find the driver through a SMB share (which you have to figure out), or needing individual drivers manually installed on each Windows PC. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: cups is the worst software....
On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 13:24:33 -0300 George N. White III wrote: > I'm not sure > where this leaves legacy printers that pre-date IPP Everywhere. All I know is that it takes me forever to get the printer working in my Window virtual machine once a year at tax time. It needs to use the fedora host to print to the fedora USB attached printer and sometimes I can get Windows to talk to cups and other times I have to share the printer under samba and have windows talk to it that way, but under no circumstances does the printer config I had setup 2 fedora releases ago at the last tax time ever work in the new tax time (and there are usually new windows updates since the last time as well, so who knows where the problem originates :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: cups is the worst software....
On Tue, 7 Sept 2021 at 07:05, François Patte < francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote: > Bonjour, > > I have several computers at home and one with an usr-printer attached. > > I struggled sometimes to configure cups on other computers to use this > printer. Now I upgraded to f34, and the configuration no longer works: > "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" is the answer if I send a > test page > > After deleting the printer, I try to use the discovery tool in the > administration page of cups (localhost:631) and it find the printer > attached to my main computer but at the end of the configuration, when I > try to print a test page, the answer is the same: > "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" > Saying CUPS is the worst software is like saying my dead horse is the worse horse. CUPS is no longer the "Swiss Army Knife" of printing. It is still used "under the hood", but the end of PPD support was announced over a year ago <https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/15/apple_cups_develoment/>. Apple CUPS development seems to have ended, but there is a fork. Going forward IPP Everywhere <https://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html> (intended to support printing without drivers and originated to support mobile devices), is proposed to replace the use of PPD's. I'm not sure where this leaves legacy printers that pre-date IPP Everywhere. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: cups is the worst software....
On 07/09/2021 12.03, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I have several computers at home and one with an usr-printer attached. I struggled sometimes to configure cups on other computers to use this printer. Now I upgraded to f34, and the configuration no longer works: "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" is the answer if I send a test page After deleting the printer, I try to use the discovery tool in the administration page of cups (localhost:631) and it find the printer attached to my main computer but at the end of the configuration, when I try to print a test page, the answer is the same: "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" This tool also finds old printers I configured many years ago and which (really) non longer exist... What to do? Thank you. Hi Fronçois To configure a printer, never use cups, never use localhost:631. Instead install system-config-printer, it will appear under Applications-> Administration -> Print Settings. There configure your Network Printers. The printers will work with many applications, however, there are other applications, wich give me the "Filter failed" error message. suomi ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: cups is the worst software....
Hello, Have you tried to check if the IP attached to the printer by TCP / IP settings are kept ? At home with cups i was oblige to leave the printer in the windows of settings ok windows ten of printer for add a kind of printer typed network, I hope help, Regards. Dorian Rosse. Télécharger Outlook pour Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: François Patte Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 12:03:15 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: cups is the worst software Bonjour, I have several computers at home and one with an usr-printer attached. I struggled sometimes to configure cups on other computers to use this printer. Now I upgraded to f34, and the configuration no longer works: "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" is the answer if I send a test page After deleting the printer, I try to use the discovery tool in the administration page of cups (localhost:631) and it find the printer attached to my main computer but at the end of the configuration, when I try to print a test page, the answer is the same: "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" This tool also finds old printers I configured many years ago and which (really) non longer exist... What to do? Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
cups is the worst software....
Bonjour, I have several computers at home and one with an usr-printer attached. I struggled sometimes to configure cups on other computers to use this printer. Now I upgraded to f34, and the configuration no longer works: "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" is the answer if I send a test page After deleting the printer, I try to use the discovery tool in the administration page of cups (localhost:631) and it find the printer attached to my main computer but at the end of the configuration, when I try to print a test page, the answer is the same: "printer is misconfigured or no longer exists" This tool also finds old printers I configured many years ago and which (really) non longer exist... What to do? Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 33 - FIPS - Cups
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:17:09 +0100 Winfried de Heiden wrote: > I enabled FIPS-mode on my Fedora 33 machine (fips-mode-setup > --enable; reboot) and it all looks fine except printing using Cups. > Printing will throw an error: > > Process 10708 (bannertopdf) of user 4 dumped core. [snip] > Disabling FIPS will make it work again. > > Running bannertopdf gives a clue why it is not allowed when using > FIPS. It uses MD% which is not allowed in FIPS: > > /usr/lib/cups/filter/bannertopdf 1 xxx '' 1 '' > bannertopdf.pdf > DEBUG: PDF template file doesn't have form. It's okay. > terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' > what(): gnutls: MD5 error: An algorithm that is not enabled was > negotiated. > Aborted (core dumped) > > Any idea how to fix this? Or since Cups seems problematic for FIPS, > bypass FIPS for Cups only? > > There is an interesting Bugzilla voor RHEL8 on this > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650233) but I can't > find out whether or not this is fixed for Fedora. Caveat: I have no specific domain knowledge about this issue, just using general reasoning to dissect the problem. It seems that the idea discussed in this part of the bugzilla you linked has not been implemented. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650233#c26 Thus, ... it seems impossible to make cups FIPS compliant ... also in that bugzilla. For now, it seems you have to bypass FIPS for Cups. I would suggest opening a new bugzilla with the information from this post, the link to the previous bugzilla, and asking whether it is / can be fixed, or if there is already a configuration workaround in place. Open it against Cups. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Fedora 33 - FIPS - Cups
Hi all, I enabled FIPS-mode on my Fedora 33 machine (fips-mode-setup --enable; reboot) and it all looks fine except printing using Cups. Printing will throw an error: Process 10708 (bannertopdf) of user 4 dumped core. Stack trace of thread 10708: #0 0x7f4d169d89d5 raise (libc.so.6 + 0x3d9d5) #1 0x7f4d169c18a4 abort (libc.so.6 + 0x268a4) #2 0x7f4d16c1f926 _ZN9__gnu_cxx27__verbose_terminate_handlerEv.cold (libstdc++.so.6 + 0x9e926) #3 0x7f4d16c2b1ac _ZN10__cxxabiv111__terminateEPFvvE (libstdc++.so.6 + 0xaa1ac) #4 0x7f4d16c2b217 _ZSt9terminatev (libstdc++.so.6 + 0xaa217) #5 0x7f4d16c2b4c9 __cxa_throw (libstdc++.so.6 + 0xaa4c9) #6 0x7f4d16da64e2 _ZN17QPDFCrypto_gnutls8MD5_initEv.cold (libqpdf.so.28 + 0x3d4e2) #7 0x7f4d16dafaa1 _ZN3MD5C1Ev (libqpdf.so.28 + 0x46aa1) #8 0x7f4d16e17c67 _ZN4QPDF16compute_data_keyERKNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEEiibii (libqpdf.so.28 + 0xaec67) #9 0x7f4d16dfe538 _ZN10QPDFWriter10setDataKeyEi (libqpdf.so.28 + 0x95538) #10 0x7f4d16e048fe _ZN10QPDFWriter11writeObjectE16QPDFObjectHandlei (libqpdf.so.28 + 0x9b8fe) #11 0x7f4d16e0f8df _ZN10QPDFWriter5writeEv (libqpdf.so.28 + 0xa68df) #12 0x55e157a50c89 generate_banner_pdf (bannertopdf + 0x8c89) #13 0x55e157a4c559 main (bannertopdf + 0x4559) #14 0x7f4d169c31e2 __libc_start_main (libc.so.6 + 0x281e2) #15 0x55e157a4c9ee _start (bannertopdf + 0x49ee) mrt 23 11:56:06 xxx cupsd[1870]: Job stopped due to filter errors; please consult the syslog file for details. Disabling FIPS will make it work again. Running bannertopdf gives a clue why it is not allowed when using FIPS. It uses MD% which is not allowed in FIPS: /usr/lib/cups/filter/bannertopdf 1 xxx '' 1 '' bannertopdf.pdf DEBUG: PDF template file doesn't have form. It's okay. terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): gnutls: MD5 error: An algorithm that is not enabled was negotiated. Aborted (core dumped) Any idea how to fix this? Or since Cups seems problematic for FIPS, bypass FIPS for Cups only? There is an interesting Bugzilla voor RHEL8 on this (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650233) but I can't find out whether or not this is fixed for Fedora. Winfried ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Cups outputting deleted printers
On 12/2/20 11:43 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 33
# rpm -qa cups\*
cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-10.fc33.x86_64
cups-pdf-3.0.1-10.fc33.x86_64
cups-libs-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-client-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-ipptool-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-filesystem-2.3.3-18.fc33.noarch
cups-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-libs-2.3.3-18.fc33.i686
cups-filters-libs-1.28.5-3.fc33.x86_64
cups-filters-1.28.5-3.fc33.x86_64
I clean up a bunch of my unused printers.
Problem: printers with the same long name, except for
the end still show is certain programs.
$ lpstat -a
B4350 accepting requests since Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:36:30 PM PDT
Cups-PDF accepting requests since Tue 30 Apr 2019 04:05:39 PM PDT
Virtual_PDF_Printer accepting requests since Tue 29 Sep 2020
03:13:17 AM PDT
Which is the way it is suppose to be.
But programs using reading printers using cupsGetDests2,
still get the old deleted printers:
The text: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=167701
The Binary: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=167702
#include
#include
int main() {
cups_dest_t* dests;
int nCount = cupsGetDests2(CUPS_HTTP_DEFAULT, &dests);
for (int i = 0; i < nCount; i++) {
cups_dest_t dest = dests[i];
std::cout << dest.name << std::endl;
}
}
$ list-printers
B4350
Cups-PDF
Cups_PDF_rn6 <-- deleted
Oki_B4350_on_dev_lp0_rn6 <-- deleted
Virtual_PDF_Printer
Virtual_PDF_Printer_rn6 <-- deleted
Programs without the problem (a sampling):
Brave Browser, Firefox, Vivaldi, Water Fox,
Leafpad, Simple scan, Gimp, Inkscape, Thunderbird,
Geany, Shotwell, PDF Studio 2019
Programs with the problem (also a sampling):
Wine, Libre Office, Free Office, Master PDF Editor
Any ideas? Is cupsGetDests2 not the proper way of dong this?
-T
Follow up:
These are not extras that did not delete when I deleted the originals.
What transpired was the I was experimenting with several way to access a
parallel port card and had created several printers using "_rn6" at the
end of their names. "_rn6" is the host name of the computer.
What I "thought" were un-deleted printers was actually the name cups
tacks a printer that is shared on the network. An d it took me several
day to realize I was looking at a coincidence. "cupsGetDests2" in its
"ultimate wisdom" list both the local name and the shared name:
Cups-PDF <-- local name
Cups_PDF_rn6 <-- shared name
Virtual_PDF_Printer <-- local name
Virtual_PDF_Printer_rn6 <--shared name
Now I will go wipe some eggs off my face.
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Re: CUPS-PDF issue.
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 19:07:54 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > So, the output ends up in ~/Desktop on my system. Me too. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CUPS-PDF issue.
On 06/12/2020 20:09, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 2020-12-06 at 19:07:54 Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/12/2020 18:58, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
I am trying to print to pdf using CUPS-PDF. The output is supposed to go to
member files in/var/spool/ but the created members are all empty.
I am apparently missing some configuration settings but can't find what it may
be.
Appreciate any pointers to how I can fix it.
I would check /var/log/cups/cups-pdf-Cups-PDF_log and /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf.
I've never touched /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf and it contains
#Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/${USER}
Out ${DESKTOP}
So, the output ends up in ~/Desktop on my system.
OK, I see. In my case it contains
Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/${USER}
#Out ${DESKTOP}
And privileges for cups-pdf is root:root so no surprise nothing was written.
Will change
Out to point to a directory in my home folder.
Thanks for your answer. (I must have asked good question :-)
Good it worked out. Yes, the question was outstanding. :-) :-)
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Re: CUPS-PDF issue.
On 06/12/2020 18:58, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
I am trying to print to pdf using CUPS-PDF. The output is supposed to go to
member files in/var/spool/ but the created members are all empty.
I am apparently missing some configuration settings but can't find what it may
be.
Appreciate any pointers to how I can fix it.
I would check /var/log/cups/cups-pdf-Cups-PDF_log and /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf.
I've never touched /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf and it contains
#Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/${USER}
Out ${DESKTOP}
So, the output ends up in ~/Desktop on my system.
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CUPS-PDF issue.
I am trying to print to pdf using CUPS-PDF. The output is supposed to go to member files in /var/spool/ but the created members are all empty. I am apparently missing some configuration settings but can't find what it may be. Appreciate any pointers to how I can fix it. -- Erik P. Olsen - Copenhagen, Denmark Fedora 33/64 bit xfce Claws-Mail POP3 Gramps 5.1.2 Bacula 9.6.5 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cups outputting deleted printers
Hi All,
Fedora 33
# rpm -qa cups\*
cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-10.fc33.x86_64
cups-pdf-3.0.1-10.fc33.x86_64
cups-libs-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-client-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-ipptool-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-filesystem-2.3.3-18.fc33.noarch
cups-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64
cups-libs-2.3.3-18.fc33.i686
cups-filters-libs-1.28.5-3.fc33.x86_64
cups-filters-1.28.5-3.fc33.x86_64
I clean up a bunch of my unused printers.
Problem: printers with the same long name, except for
the end still show is certain programs.
$ lpstat -a
B4350 accepting requests since Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:36:30 PM PDT
Cups-PDF accepting requests since Tue 30 Apr 2019 04:05:39 PM PDT
Virtual_PDF_Printer accepting requests since Tue 29 Sep 2020
03:13:17 AM PDT
Which is the way it is suppose to be.
But programs using reading printers using cupsGetDests2,
still get the old deleted printers:
The text: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=167701
The Binary: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=167702
#include
#include
int main() {
cups_dest_t* dests;
int nCount = cupsGetDests2(CUPS_HTTP_DEFAULT, &dests);
for (int i = 0; i < nCount; i++) {
cups_dest_t dest = dests[i];
std::cout << dest.name << std::endl;
}
}
$ list-printers
B4350
Cups-PDF
Cups_PDF_rn6 <-- deleted
Oki_B4350_on_dev_lp0_rn6 <-- deleted
Virtual_PDF_Printer
Virtual_PDF_Printer_rn6<-- deleted
Programs without the problem (a sampling):
Brave Browser, Firefox, Vivaldi, Water Fox,
Leafpad, Simple scan, Gimp, Inkscape, Thunderbird,
Geany, Shotwell, PDF Studio 2019
Programs with the problem (also a sampling):
Wine, Libre Office, Free Office, Master PDF Editor
Any ideas? Is cupsGetDests2 not the proper way of dong this?
-T
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Re: Deleting a cups printer
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Adam Mercer wrote: > Any idea how I can actually delete this old broken printer > configuration so it doesn't keep coming back? Maybe a little heavy handed but I managed to fix this by setting BrowseRemoteProtocols, BrowseLocalProtocols, and BrowseProtocols all to none. Cheers Adam ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Deleting a cups printer
Hi I was having printer issues, trying to print jobs just resulting in the system waiting and waiting and not actually printing anything. I deleted the printer from the Settings -> Printers and added it again, This got things working, however whenever I open the Settings the original printer is back in the list of printers, along with the new one that I added. Everytime I delete it, but when I open settings again it's back. How can I actually delete the printer? If I go to the CUPS settings, i.e. open http://localhost:631 only the new working printer is listed. So it seems that something else is finding this old printer and adding it back, in /etc/cups/cups-browsed.conf I set BrowseRemoteProtocols to none and restarted cups-browsed.service to see if it was trying to he helpful and setup the printer automatically. That however didn't seem to help? Any idea how I can actually delete this old broken printer configuration so it doesn't keep coming back? Cheers Adam ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Start CUPS -
On 2020-07-08 06:59, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I appreciated the time everyone spent offering help. As I say I have to fix > the samba server but it should not be so difficult. OK Just remember 2 things 1. Check the journal for more info on errors. 2. Use "smbclient -L remote_address" to find the available Sharenames. In your case, /home/share was not on the list. It was "bobg". -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Start CUPS -
On 2020-07-07 17:43, Ed Greshko wrote: I see you got your answer. But I have to ask, is SAMBA working for you now? . / had to take a break from that mess. It quit being accessible after a reboot following a series of power drop outs. I will get back to it, may clear everything and reinstall FC32 again, with "standard partitions" as I prefer. I appreciated the time everyone spent offering help. As I say I have to fix the samba server but it should not be so difficult. / -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Start CUPS -
On 2020-07-08 05:25, Bob Goodwin wrote: > What is the command to start the cups printer administration display in > Fedora 32? I see you got your answer. But I have to ask, is SAMBA working for you now? -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Start CUPS -
. On 2020-07-07 17:31, Jerry James wrote: t always was available when I entered "631" in the Firefox address window. I guess I need the exact command but cant find it. systemctl status says it loaded and active but it is hiding from me if it is? Try this: http://localhost:631/ -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ ___ Thank you sir, that's what I could not find, certainly not with Google? -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Start CUPS -
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:25 PM Bob Goodwin wrote: > What is the command to start the cups printer administration display in > Fedora 32? > > It always was available when I entered "631" in the Firefox address > window. I guess I need the exact command but cant find it. systemctl > status says it loaded and active but it is hiding from me if it is? Try this: http://localhost:631/ -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Start CUPS -
What is the command to start the cups printer administration display in Fedora 32? It always was available when I entered "631" in the Firefox address window. I guess I need the exact command but cant find it. systemctl status says it loaded and active but it is hiding from me if it is? Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CUPS print test page -
On 2020-05-16 21:55, Ed Greshko wrote: From the Printers section you have to pick a printer and then there is a Maintenance drop down and under there is "Print Test" page. No problem here. ° Ok, I found it there as you say, but it seems different than what was required in the recent past. I think I was finding Maintenance from Administration, but maybe I am slipping, could be Altzheimers! :-) Other than finding that in cups the printers have worked without a problem Until I got a list in html that I had to change to pdf and I neglected to preview the result and the printer started t regurgitate all the paper printing various parts of the document. Thank you, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CUPS print test page -
On 2020-05-17 09:36, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I had a printer problem an hour ago and in the course of straightening things > out I found that I could not print a CUPS test page. Is that a new situation > for Fedora 32? I also tried the Print Settings in the Administration section. > As I remember there was a Maintenance menu in CUPS that had two test options, > I see no Maintenance in CUPS now. I may have something wrong in my setup but > can't imagine what? I set up both printers with the Brother Linux printer > tool as I have been doing for a few years and until tonight I had no need to > use CUPS, there has been no problem printing and it did print a test page > with one I found by googling for it. > > What's wrong, is it just me? I've seen no other complaints bout this. Bob From the Printers section you have to pick a printer and then there is a Maintenance drop down and under there is "Print Test" page. No problem here. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CUPS print test page -
Is your printer configured using an IP address or is it just being discovered via mDNS? I had an issue with my F32 upgrade that the mdns4_minimal entry was removed from /etc/nsswitch.conf that broke printing for me. On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 21:36 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I had a printer problem an hour ago and in the course of > straightening things out I found that I could not print a CUPS test > page. Is that a new situation for Fedora 32? I also tried the Print > Settings in the Administration section. As I remember there was a > Maintenance menu in CUPS that had two test options, I see no > Maintenance in CUPS now. I may have something wrong in my setup but > can't imagine what? I set up both printers with the Brother Linux > printer tool as I have been doing for a few years and until tonight > I had no need to use CUPS, there has been no problem printing and it > did print a test page with one I found by googling for it. > What's wrong, is it just me? I've seen no other complaints bout > this. Bob > -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USAhttp://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD > FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail > POP3___users mailing list > -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
CUPS print test page -
I had a printer problem an hour ago and in the course of straightening things out I found that I could not print a CUPS test page. Is that a new situation for Fedora 32? I also tried the Print Settings in the Administration section. As I remember there was a Maintenance menu in CUPS that had two test options, I see no Maintenance in CUPS now. I may have something wrong in my setup but can't imagine what? I set up both printers with the Brother Linux printer tool as I have been doing for a few years and until tonight I had no need to use CUPS, there has been no problem printing and it did print a test page with one I found by googling for it. What's wrong, is it just me? I've seen no other complaints bout this. Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 04:17, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 3/6/20 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > According to that document, I think what you really want is client > > mode. That should make anything connected to the ethernet port be > > part of your regular network. The device connects to your main wifi > > router and shares the connection over the ethernet port. > Ok I tried the WISP mode which is actually that client mode. It doesn't > seem to work as such in fact and looks exactly the same as the repeater > mode. I get a prompt to rename the 'extended wifi' with _ext and the Lan > IP gets set to a different subnet. Pinging the printer doesn't work > (while pinging the device works). So it seems I might be stuck with my > older and bigger router. > Might be worth asking the DD-WRT people about the smallest device that runs DD-WRT. I have used a wifi to ethernet bridge, but choose a model with a good (e.g., big) antenna useful with laptops that weren't able to get wifi at locations distant from an access point. > > Well only costed me $13 and I am sure I must have a friend who'll be > happy to get a free repeater :-) > That device sucks as a repeater, but might be useful connecting "an Ethernet-enabled device such as Internet TV, DVR, Gaming console and so on" if there is a good wifi signal at the wall outlet. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/6/20 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > According to that document, I think what you really want is client > mode. That should make anything connected to the ethernet port be > part of your regular network. The device connects to your main wifi > router and shares the connection over the ethernet port. Ok I tried the WISP mode which is actually that client mode. It doesn't seem to work as such in fact and looks exactly the same as the repeater mode. I get a prompt to rename the 'extended wifi' with _ext and the Lan IP gets set to a different subnet. Pinging the printer doesn't work (while pinging the device works). So it seems I might be stuck with my older and bigger router. Well only costed me $13 and I am sure I must have a friend who'll be happy to get a free repeater :-) Thank you. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/6/20 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 3/4/20 2:19 AM, Tim via users wrote: >> On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 12:30 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: >>> it's a PIXLINK LV-WR09 300Mbps Wireless-N Repeater/Router/AP >> >> Looking at this: >> http://pmod1b8a3.pic8.websiteonline.cn/upload/WR09QuickInstallationGuide.pdf >> >> >> It looks like it should support the mode you want. Try using it as an >> access point. Can you follow their guide? Get back to us with how far >> you can manage to get. > > According to that document, I think what you really want is client > mode. That should make anything connected to the ethernet port be > part of your regular network. The device connects to your main wifi > router and shares the connection over the ethernet port. OK so I had to re-flash my old Netgear using DD-WRT as the repeat mode in Netgear firmware doesn't support WPA2-PSK (only WEP or open). And it now works perfectly. Just takes an awful lot of space with cables, power adapter and just the "repeater" itself. Note that took me no time compared to that other "new" device I got. Now I will however try to set it up in client mode and see how this goes. Thank you very much for your patience and the time spent finding a solution for me. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/4/20 2:19 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 12:30 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: it's a PIXLINK LV-WR09 300Mbps Wireless-N Repeater/Router/AP Looking at this: http://pmod1b8a3.pic8.websiteonline.cn/upload/WR09QuickInstallationGuide.pdf It looks like it should support the mode you want. Try using it as an access point. Can you follow their guide? Get back to us with how far you can manage to get. According to that document, I think what you really want is client mode. That should make anything connected to the ethernet port be part of your regular network. The device connects to your main wifi router and shares the connection over the ethernet port. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/5/20 7:49 PM, George N. White III wrote: > These are all devices that need outbound access, but do not offer network > services. wow.. I'm feeling like I got cheated now. I have a spare (or 2) wifi router. I'll see if I can set it up in a similar way then. The thing takes a lot more space though. Anyone know of smaller device similar to that Pixlink thing that would work both ways? Thank you really for your help. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On Thu, 2020-03-05 at 08:49 -0400, George N. White III wrote: > From the manual: > > "LAN Port: One 10/100Mbps RJ45 Ethernet port used to add wireless > connectivity to an Ethernet-enabled device such as Internet TV, DVR, > Gaming console and so on. Please note that this port is not allowed > to be connected with router." > > These are all devices that need outbound access, but do not offer > network services. Though that could be something as simple as because it would conflict with its DHCP service, or NAT behind NAT facing the wrong way. Something that didn't have such a conflict mayn't be incompatible. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.12.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 4 23:02:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 04:17, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 3/5/20 3:05 PM, Frederic Muller wrote: > > On 3/5/20 2:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 03/05/2020 12:41 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: > > So obviously I have 2 issues: > - routing to other subnet doesn't seem to work > - "network" printer doesn't seem to work as such > > > Three questions: > > First, can you ping the printer from a box on the same subnet? > > No which is why I'm wondering if I don't have another issue with the > printer > > Second, if so, can you print from that box? > > Neither, as it doesn't seem to find the printer > > Third, can you reach that router's config page from the box on a different > subnet? > > Yes can! > > So I'm going to temporary move the printer to the main switch, change the > ethernet cable and see if that works... then let you know. > > Thank you. > > Fred > > ok, it was actually a cable issue. Replaced and then I can ping and add > the printer when on the same subnet. > > So now I'm back to my routing issue :-D > >From the manual: "LAN Port: One 10/100Mbps RJ45 Ethernet port used to add wireless connectivity to an Ethernet-enabled device such as Internet TV, DVR, Gaming console and so on. Please note that this port is not allowed to be connected with router." These are all devices that need outbound access, but do not offer network services. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 03/05/2020 01:16 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: So now I'm back to my routing issue :-D Great! It's always best to break things like this down into separate issues and fix them one at a time and in this case, your router issue didn't matter until you had the printer working locally. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/5/20 3:05 PM, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 3/5/20 2:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 03/05/2020 12:41 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: >>> So obviously I have 2 issues: >>> - routing to other subnet doesn't seem to work >>> - "network" printer doesn't seem to work as such >> >> Three questions: >> >> First, can you ping the printer from a box on the same subnet? > No which is why I'm wondering if I don't have another issue with the > printer >> Second, if so, can you print from that box? > Neither, as it doesn't seem to find the printer >> Third, can you reach that router's config page from the box on a >> different subnet? > Yes can! > > So I'm going to temporary move the printer to the main switch, change > the ethernet cable and see if that works... then let you know. > > Thank you. > > Fred > ok, it was actually a cable issue. Replaced and then I can ping and add the printer when on the same subnet. So now I'm back to my routing issue :-D Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 03/05/2020 01:05 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: So I'm going to temporary move the printer to the main switch, change the ethernet cable and see if that works... then let you know. Try changing the cable first and don't worry about printing from the other subnet until you can get it printing from the same one. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/5/20 2:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/05/2020 12:41 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: >> So obviously I have 2 issues: >> - routing to other subnet doesn't seem to work >> - "network" printer doesn't seem to work as such > > Three questions: > > First, can you ping the printer from a box on the same subnet? No which is why I'm wondering if I don't have another issue with the printer > Second, if so, can you print from that box? Neither, as it doesn't seem to find the printer > Third, can you reach that router's config page from the box on a > different subnet? Yes can! So I'm going to temporary move the printer to the main switch, change the ethernet cable and see if that works... then let you know. Thank you. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 03/05/2020 12:41 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: So obviously I have 2 issues: - routing to other subnet doesn't seem to work - "network" printer doesn't seem to work as such Three questions: First, can you ping the printer from a box on the same subnet? Second, if so, can you print from that box? Third, can you reach that router's config page from the box on a different subnet? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/4/20 7:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-03-04 19:54, Frederic Muller wrote: >> On 3/4/20 6:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: The repeater IP is currently dynamic (I can probably set it as fixed) and falls randomly between 100 to 190, which would be the gateway to access the printer. And that's where my routing knowledge tells me there is a problem. >>> So, your system is on the 192.168.0.x subnet and the repeater IP is as >>> well. You can >>> ping the IP repeater, yes? >>> >>> And the HP printer has an IP address of 192.168.1.x. Do you know what "x" >>> is? >>> >>> It sounds to me that you should first fix the IP address of the repeater. >>> After that, it sounds as if you >>> need to add a static route on your system to the 192.168.1.x subnet via the >>> repeater. >>> >>> On your system, what it the output of >>> >>> ip route show >> Dear Ed, >> >> Yes I can ping the repeater. In fact the firmware is a web app which I >> access to configure it and change its settings. >> >> The HP printer has the option to be set using a DHCP server or manually. I >> set it up manually as it will be easier to "find" the printer I assumed. So >> yes the IP is 192.168.1.20. >> >> ip route show gives: >> default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlp4s0 proto dhcp metric 600 >> 192.168.0.0/24 dev wlp4s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.134 metric >> 600 >> 192.168.122.0/24 dev virbr0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.122.1 >> linkdown >> >> So I'll have to add this route to any machine needing to connect to the >> printer right? >> >> > First, you'd need a route to 192.168.1.0/24 via whatever the IP is of the > router. Which is why it should > be a fixed IP. > > Then, it may not be necessary to have the route on all systems if you set up > this one system as > a print server for all systems on the 192.168.0.0/24 LAN segment. > > Hi! So I tried to go that way and I haven't been so successful. At this stage this is what I'm getting: - added the route on the firewall/router/dhcp server (pfsense) : didn't seem to propagate - manually added the route on my machine and I have this: default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlp4s0 proto dhcp metric 600 192.168.0.0/24 dev wlp4s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.134 metric 600 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.0.20 dev wlp4s0 192.168.122.0/24 dev virbr0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.122.1 linkdown - pinging tests: ping 192.168.0.20 works ping 192.168.1.254 doesn't work (that's the repeater IP on the other subnet) ping 192.168.1.20 doesn't work - Switch to the repeater wifi xxx_net. My machine IP switched to the other subnet and became 192.168.1.104 - pinging tests: ping 192.168.1.254 works ping 192.168.1.20 doesn't work (and the printer is on and shows the right IP configuration) - Tried to add the "network" printer and it didn't work neither So obviously I have 2 issues: - routing to other subnet doesn't seem to work - "network" printer doesn't seem to work as such It'd be nice to be able to fix the routing issue, but if the printer doesn't work in a network configuration it is somehow moot for now. Thank you all for your help in the matter. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 17:30 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: > Oh yes it supports the mod that I want, except that I am failing to > connect to the printer probably because of IP routing issues. I was > in fact expecting the LAN port to connect to the same subnet as if it > was a Wifi connection to the repeater. Apparently it doesn't work > this way. > > AP mode cannot work as I would need to lay a cable between my router > and the AP: then I'm better off setting up the cable directly to the > printer... which I cannot do. Sorry, I was thinking backwards. I'm not sure if an access port can actually work equally bi-directionally. But there looks like several possible scenarios for using it. If you're only connecting one thing, then the 2nd (client) mode seems the most obvious. It would be acting as an external WiFi adaptor for something that doesn't have built in WiFi (they list smart TVs, games, computers, but a printer is just yet another device). The 3rd mode on that list, as a repeater ought to work (it mentions that clients can connect to it via WiFi or ethernet). The 5th mode on that list, WISP sounds like another contender, similar to the 3rd mode. Though, in either case, it would depend if it just repeats as a bridge or simple switch (connects your other WiFi router through itself to the ethernet port), or if it also interposes itself in the middle as another router. Since it has its own inbuilt web-based configuration, it does look like it might be difficult to have it not behave as a router in the middle. It mentions acting as a gateway by default, but that page doesn't give much detail about using it not as one. > So my question is how can I connect from 192.168.0.x subnet to > 192.168.1.x subnet (or specific printer IP) knowing this connection > doesn't go through my router/firewall (which is on 192.168.0.1). > > The repeater IP is currently dynamic (I can probably set it as fixed) > and falls randomly between 100 to 190, which would be the gateway to > access the printer. And that's where my routing knowledge tells me > there is a problem. Yes, things would be a lot easier to manage if your devices always have the same address. Another issue to consider is your original WiFi router. With one of mine, its wired ethernet and WiFi can be on different subnets. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.12.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 4 23:02:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 2020-03-04 19:54, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 3/4/20 6:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> The repeater IP is currently dynamic (I can probably set it as fixed) >>> and falls randomly between 100 to 190, which would be the gateway to >>> access the printer. And that's where my routing knowledge tells me there >>> is a problem. >> So, your system is on the 192.168.0.x subnet and the repeater IP is as well. >> You can >> ping the IP repeater, yes? >> >> And the HP printer has an IP address of 192.168.1.x. Do you know what "x" >> is? >> >> It sounds to me that you should first fix the IP address of the repeater. >> After that, it sounds as if you >> need to add a static route on your system to the 192.168.1.x subnet via the >> repeater. >> >> On your system, what it the output of >> >> ip route show > Dear Ed, > > Yes I can ping the repeater. In fact the firmware is a web app which I access > to configure it and change its settings. > > The HP printer has the option to be set using a DHCP server or manually. I > set it up manually as it will be easier to "find" the printer I assumed. So > yes the IP is 192.168.1.20. > > ip route show gives: > default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlp4s0 proto dhcp metric 600 > 192.168.0.0/24 dev wlp4s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.134 metric 600 > 192.168.122.0/24 dev virbr0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.122.1 linkdown > > So I'll have to add this route to any machine needing to connect to the > printer right? > > First, you'd need a route to 192.168.1.0/24 via whatever the IP is of the router. Which is why it should be a fixed IP. Then, it may not be necessary to have the route on all systems if you set up this one system as a print server for all systems on the 192.168.0.0/24 LAN segment. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/4/20 6:45 PM, George N. White III wrote: > I assume you are using WISP mode. Ok i wasn't clear about WISP mode and my first search didn't return what I found now. So no, I am using repeater mode but maybe I should dig into that WISP mode in fact. > The above document is short on > detail, but mentions "routing", so may offer a bridge configuration that > actually works. It sounds like the lan port is getting NATed > addresses. yes the LAN port seems to be automatically NATed to the next subnet available. Even though you can manually change that, should you pick the same subnet as the repeater it then defaults back to the next available subnet. > > It isn't clear if you know the IP assigned to the printer. Your > printer should > be able to generate a status page that shows the IP assigned by the > router. > Some models with displays can show the IP. As I replied to Ed the printer can be either using DHCP or manually assigned IP/mask/gateway. so I'd say it's the easy side of the equation (or I hope since I haven't managed to reach it yet). > To use WISP mode you may need to configure the router to allow specific > ports from wifi to connect to the LAN side. Unless there are more > options than > the "Quick" guide provides, you can't connect to the printer. Thank you for the heads up I think I need to dig into that mode. Well time for dinner down here but definitely something to do after ;-) Thanks a lot. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/4/20 6:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> The repeater IP is currently dynamic (I can probably set it as fixed) >> and falls randomly between 100 to 190, which would be the gateway to >> access the printer. And that's where my routing knowledge tells me there >> is a problem. > So, your system is on the 192.168.0.x subnet and the repeater IP is as well. > You can > ping the IP repeater, yes? > > And the HP printer has an IP address of 192.168.1.x. Do you know what "x" is? > > It sounds to me that you should first fix the IP address of the repeater. > After that, it sounds as if you > need to add a static route on your system to the 192.168.1.x subnet via the > repeater. > > On your system, what it the output of > > ip route show Dear Ed, Yes I can ping the repeater. In fact the firmware is a web app which I access to configure it and change its settings. The HP printer has the option to be set using a DHCP server or manually. I set it up manually as it will be easier to "find" the printer I assumed. So yes the IP is 192.168.1.20. ip route show gives: default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlp4s0 proto dhcp metric 600 192.168.0.0/24 dev wlp4s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.134 metric 600 192.168.122.0/24 dev virbr0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.122.1 linkdown So I'll have to add this route to any machine needing to connect to the printer right? Thank you. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 at 06:34, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 3/4/20 5:19 PM, Tim via users wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 12:30 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: > >> it's a PIXLINK LV-WR09 300Mbps Wireless-N Repeater/Router/AP > > Looking at this: > > > http://pmod1b8a3.pic8.websiteonline.cn/upload/WR09QuickInstallationGuide.pdf > > > > It looks like it should support the mode you want. Try using it as an > > access point. Can you follow their guide? Get back to us with how far > > you can manage to get. > > > Oh yes it supports the mod that I want, except that I am failing to > connect to the printer probably because of IP routing issues. I was in > fact expecting the LAN port to connect to the same subnet as if it was a > Wifi connection to the repeater. Apparently it doesn't work this way. > I assume you are using WISP mode. The above document is short on detail, but mentions "routing", so may offer a bridge configuration that actually works. It sounds like the lan port is getting NATed addresses. It isn't clear if you know the IP assigned to the printer. Your printer should be able to generate a status page that shows the IP assigned by the router. Some models with displays can show the IP. To use WISP mode you may need to configure the router to allow specific ports from wifi to connect to the LAN side. Unless there are more options than the "Quick" guide provides, you can't connect to the printer. > > AP mode cannot work as I would need to lay a cable between my router and > the AP: then I'm better off setting up the cable directly to the > printer... which I cannot do. > Have you considered powerline ethernet? That can work well, but depends on the way the building was wired. > So my question is how can I connect from 192.168.0.x subnet to > 192.168.1.x subnet (or specific printer IP) knowing this connection > doesn't go through my router/firewall (which is on 192.168.0.1). > > The repeater IP is currently dynamic (I can probably set it as fixed) > and falls randomly between 100 to 190, which would be the gateway to > access the printer. And that's where my routing knowledge tells me there > is a problem. > You want a bridge, not a router. The problem is that you can't rely on the technical information from online shopping sites, and two low-end devices with the same model number are often different internally. There are simple devices that do what you want, but some have a poor antenna, so many don't have proper UL certification (in case fire, insurance has an excuse to avoid paying). The most robust route is to build your own from a single-board computer (SBC) with wifi and an ethernet port. There are excellent online groups that can help with linux or BSD-based router/bridge configurations for SBC hardware. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 2020-03-04 18:30, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 3/4/20 5:19 PM, Tim via users wrote: >> On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 12:30 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: >>> it's a PIXLINK LV-WR09 300Mbps Wireless-N Repeater/Router/AP >> Looking at this: >> http://pmod1b8a3.pic8.websiteonline.cn/upload/WR09QuickInstallationGuide.pdf >> >> It looks like it should support the mode you want. Try using it as an >> access point. Can you follow their guide? Get back to us with how far >> you can manage to get. >> > Oh yes it supports the mod that I want, except that I am failing to > connect to the printer probably because of IP routing issues. I was in > fact expecting the LAN port to connect to the same subnet as if it was a > Wifi connection to the repeater. Apparently it doesn't work this way. > > AP mode cannot work as I would need to lay a cable between my router and > the AP: then I'm better off setting up the cable directly to the > printer... which I cannot do. > > So my question is how can I connect from 192.168.0.x subnet to > 192.168.1.x subnet (or specific printer IP) knowing this connection > doesn't go through my router/firewall (which is on 192.168.0.1). > > The repeater IP is currently dynamic (I can probably set it as fixed) > and falls randomly between 100 to 190, which would be the gateway to > access the printer. And that's where my routing knowledge tells me there > is a problem. So, your system is on the 192.168.0.x subnet and the repeater IP is as well. You can ping the IP repeater, yes? And the HP printer has an IP address of 192.168.1.x. Do you know what "x" is? It sounds to me that you should first fix the IP address of the repeater. After that, it sounds as if you need to add a static route on your system to the 192.168.1.x subnet via the repeater. On your system, what it the output of ip route show -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/4/20 5:19 PM, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 12:30 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: >> it's a PIXLINK LV-WR09 300Mbps Wireless-N Repeater/Router/AP > Looking at this: > http://pmod1b8a3.pic8.websiteonline.cn/upload/WR09QuickInstallationGuide.pdf > > It looks like it should support the mode you want. Try using it as an > access point. Can you follow their guide? Get back to us with how far > you can manage to get. > Oh yes it supports the mod that I want, except that I am failing to connect to the printer probably because of IP routing issues. I was in fact expecting the LAN port to connect to the same subnet as if it was a Wifi connection to the repeater. Apparently it doesn't work this way. AP mode cannot work as I would need to lay a cable between my router and the AP: then I'm better off setting up the cable directly to the printer... which I cannot do. So my question is how can I connect from 192.168.0.x subnet to 192.168.1.x subnet (or specific printer IP) knowing this connection doesn't go through my router/firewall (which is on 192.168.0.1). The repeater IP is currently dynamic (I can probably set it as fixed) and falls randomly between 100 to 190, which would be the gateway to access the printer. And that's where my routing knowledge tells me there is a problem. Thank you. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 12:30 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: > it's a PIXLINK LV-WR09 300Mbps Wireless-N Repeater/Router/AP Looking at this: http://pmod1b8a3.pic8.websiteonline.cn/upload/WR09QuickInstallationGuide.pdf It looks like it should support the mode you want. Try using it as an access point. Can you follow their guide? Get back to us with how far you can manage to get. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.12.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 4 23:02:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On 3/4/20 12:24 PM, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 11:45 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: >> I then bought an inexpensive Wi-Fi Repeater/Router with 2 Ethernet >> ports (I guess 1 WAN, 1 LAN), thinking I could connect a cable from >> the LAN port and to the Wifi using that device allowing me to share >> that printer over my network. > Tell us the make and model of the device. > Sure, it's a PIXLINK LV-WR09 300Mbps Wireless-N Repeater/Router/AP . Thank you. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
On Wed, 2020-03-04 at 11:45 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: > I then bought an inexpensive Wi-Fi Repeater/Router with 2 Ethernet > ports (I guess 1 WAN, 1 LAN), thinking I could connect a cable from > the LAN port and to the Wifi using that device allowing me to share > that printer over my network. Tell us the make and model of the device. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.12.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 4 23:02:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Printing through a Wifi repeater on a LAN printer using CUPS
Hi! This might be a little bit out of topic on this list but I am getting out of options. So here we go and thank you for your patience: I have a few Fedora clients on one subnet, a firewall and the Internet on one side. Then in a different room, far away from my router I have a HP printer with a RJ-45 connector. I then bought an inexpensive Wi-Fi Repeater/Router with 2 Ethernet ports (I guess 1 WAN, 1 LAN), thinking I could connect a cable from the LAN port and to the Wifi using that device allowing me to share that printer over my network. I've setup that device as a repeater and the wifi part works. However it seems the LAN interface can only be setup as a different subnet. Let's say my network is 192.168.0.x then the LAN interface IP is automatically set by the device firmware as 192.168.1.x (netmasks are all at 255.255.255.0) . The repeater IP is currently given by the DHCP server running on my router and on 192.168.0.x. Currently I can't see the printer from my computer. I could also set up the device as a router (I however assume I'd need a cable from the WAN port to my router), an AP (would need a cable from my router to the device - so no) or an WISP (not what I need neither) but it doesn't seem to fit. I've already spent 2 days on this and starting to lose my hair... so do you guys have any suggestion or done this before? Looking forward to reading from you. Thank you. Fred ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Google Cloud Printing With Cups
On 8/11/19 4:06 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/19 12:53 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 8/11/19 12:41 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/19 9:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 29/10/19 8:47 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, Can someone tell me how I add a Google Cloud Printer to cups once I have the cupscloudprint package installed? Sorry I forgot to mention this is in F30. I found instructions for the service but the service fails when started. You may want to consider posting the instructions and service as well as the error. Is the cloudprint package part of the F30 release or did you acquire it elsewhere? Thanks Ed, I'll try and find the instructions again. The package wasn't from the fedora repositories as I couldn't find anything via dnfdragora that related to google cloud print, and at the moment cups doesn't show any network printers at all, not even the printer that has already been defined to google cloud print via windows. I did find a methodology for activating google cloud print in cups from a python application, but that applications was written in python 2.7 which is almost end of life, but that application required modules that the fedora implementation doesn't have, and, when I downloaded the first required module using the 2.7 version of pip, it downloaded and installed a python 3 module into 2.7. I'm not sure why it installed the python 3 package as when I look at the properties of the package it clearly states it python 3. The other issue is one of the modules require for python has been deprecated in 2.7 but is still there for backwards compatibility but has been removed in python 3, hence we can't use 2to3 to convert all the python 2 source to python 3. I also found the source code for the google cloud print on github which I downloaded, and one of the directories in that package is named "systemd" and contains a single entry name cloud-print-connector.service which I was able to enable via systemctl. When I tried to start that service it wanted to run a program which didn't exist. The source code for that program was present and I was able to compile it using "go" and copy it to the location the service was trying to run it from but the service still fails. It is possible the process is looking for other modules that may need to be compile but at the moment I don't know what they are. The messages from the service start are below: sudo systemctl status cloud-print-connector ● cloud-print-connector.service - Google Cloud Print Connector Loaded: loaded (/usr/local/downloads/cupscloudprint/cloud-print-connector-master/systemd/cloud-print-connector.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2019-11-08 15:49:03 AEDT; 13s ago Docs: https://github.com/google/cloud-print-connector Process: 7058 ExecStart=/opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector -config-filename /opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector.config.json (code=exited, status=217/USER) Main PID: 7058 (code=exited, status=217/USER) Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Stopped Google Cloud Print Connector. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Start request repeated too quickly. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Failed to start Google Cloud Print Connector. These messages were obtained after running the gcp-connector-util program to create the config file being used by the connector. The URL of where I downloaded the connector from on github is https://github.com/google/cloud-print-connector. regards, Steve What about the contents of cloud-print-connector.service? Thanks Ed, here is the contents of cloud-print-connector.service: Copyright 2016 Google Inc. All rights reserved. # # Use of this source code is governed by a BSD-style # license that can be found in the LICENSE file or at # https://developers.google.com/open-source/licenses/bsd [Unit] Description=Google Cloud Print Connector Documentation="https://github.com/google/cloud-print-connector"; After=cups.service avahi-daemon.service network-online.target Wants=cups.service avahi-daemon.service network-online.target [Service] ExecStart=/opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector -config-filename /opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector.config.json Restart=on-failure User=cloud-print-connector [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I also used systemctl to check the status
Re: Google Cloud Printing With Cups
On 11/8/19 12:53 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 8/11/19 12:41 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/19 9:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 29/10/19 8:47 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, Can someone tell me how I add a Google Cloud Printer to cups once I have the cupscloudprint package installed? Sorry I forgot to mention this is in F30. I found instructions for the service but the service fails when started. You may want to consider posting the instructions and service as well as the error. Is the cloudprint package part of the F30 release or did you acquire it elsewhere? Thanks Ed, I'll try and find the instructions again. The package wasn't from the fedora repositories as I couldn't find anything via dnfdragora that related to google cloud print, and at the moment cups doesn't show any network printers at all, not even the printer that has already been defined to google cloud print via windows. I did find a methodology for activating google cloud print in cups from a python application, but that applications was written in python 2.7 which is almost end of life, but that application required modules that the fedora implementation doesn't have, and, when I downloaded the first required module using the 2.7 version of pip, it downloaded and installed a python 3 module into 2.7. I'm not sure why it installed the python 3 package as when I look at the properties of the package it clearly states it python 3. The other issue is one of the modules require for python has been deprecated in 2.7 but is still there for backwards compatibility but has been removed in python 3, hence we can't use 2to3 to convert all the python 2 source to python 3. I also found the source code for the google cloud print on github which I downloaded, and one of the directories in that package is named "systemd" and contains a single entry name cloud-print-connector.service which I was able to enable via systemctl. When I tried to start that service it wanted to run a program which didn't exist. The source code for that program was present and I was able to compile it using "go" and copy it to the location the service was trying to run it from but the service still fails. It is possible the process is looking for other modules that may need to be compile but at the moment I don't know what they are. The messages from the service start are below: sudo systemctl status cloud-print-connector ● cloud-print-connector.service - Google Cloud Print Connector Loaded: loaded (/usr/local/downloads/cupscloudprint/cloud-print-connector-master/systemd/cloud-print-connector.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2019-11-08 15:49:03 AEDT; 13s ago Docs: https://github.com/google/cloud-print-connector Process: 7058 ExecStart=/opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector -config-filename /opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector.config.json (code=exited, status=217/USER) Main PID: 7058 (code=exited, status=217/USER) Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Stopped Google Cloud Print Connector. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Start request repeated too quickly. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Failed to start Google Cloud Print Connector. These messages were obtained after running the gcp-connector-util program to create the config file being used by the connector. The URL of where I downloaded the connector from on github is https://github.com/google/cloud-print-connector. regards, Steve What about the contents of cloud-print-connector.service? -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Google Cloud Printing With Cups
On 8/11/19 12:41 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/19 9:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 29/10/19 8:47 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, Can someone tell me how I add a Google Cloud Printer to cups once I have the cupscloudprint package installed? Sorry I forgot to mention this is in F30. I found instructions for the service but the service fails when started. You may want to consider posting the instructions and service as well as the error. Is the cloudprint package part of the F30 release or did you acquire it elsewhere? Thanks Ed, I'll try and find the instructions again. The package wasn't from the fedora repositories as I couldn't find anything via dnfdragora that related to google cloud print, and at the moment cups doesn't show any network printers at all, not even the printer that has already been defined to google cloud print via windows. I did find a methodology for activating google cloud print in cups from a python application, but that applications was written in python 2.7 which is almost end of life, but that application required modules that the fedora implementation doesn't have, and, when I downloaded the first required module using the 2.7 version of pip, it downloaded and installed a python 3 module into 2.7. I'm not sure why it installed the python 3 package as when I look at the properties of the package it clearly states it python 3. The other issue is one of the modules require for python has been deprecated in 2.7 but is still there for backwards compatibility but has been removed in python 3, hence we can't use 2to3 to convert all the python 2 source to python 3. I also found the source code for the google cloud print on github which I downloaded, and one of the directories in that package is named "systemd" and contains a single entry name cloud-print-connector.service which I was able to enable via systemctl. When I tried to start that service it wanted to run a program which didn't exist. The source code for that program was present and I was able to compile it using "go" and copy it to the location the service was trying to run it from but the service still fails. It is possible the process is looking for other modules that may need to be compile but at the moment I don't know what they are. The messages from the service start are below: sudo systemctl status cloud-print-connector ● cloud-print-connector.service - Google Cloud Print Connector Loaded: loaded (/usr/local/downloads/cupscloudprint/cloud-print-connector-master/systemd/cloud-print-connector.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2019-11-08 15:49:03 AEDT; 13s ago Docs: https://github.com/google/cloud-print-connector Process: 7058 ExecStart=/opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector -config-filename /opt/cloud-print-connector/gcp-cups-connector.config.json (code=exited, status=217/USER) Main PID: 7058 (code=exited, status=217/USER) Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Stopped Google Cloud Print Connector. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Start request repeated too quickly. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: cloud-print-connector.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Nov 08 15:49:03 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Failed to start Google Cloud Print Connector. These messages were obtained after running the gcp-connector-util program to create the config file being used by the connector. The URL of where I downloaded the connector from on github is https://github.com/google/cloud-print-connector. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Google Cloud Printing With Cups
On 11/8/19 9:32 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 29/10/19 8:47 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, Can someone tell me how I add a Google Cloud Printer to cups once I have the cupscloudprint package installed? Sorry I forgot to mention this is in F30. I found instructions for the service but the service fails when started. You may want to consider posting the instructions and service as well as the error. Is the cloudprint package part of the F30 release or did you acquire it elsewhere? -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Google Cloud Printing With Cups
On 29/10/19 8:47 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, Can someone tell me how I add a Google Cloud Printer to cups once I have the cupscloudprint package installed? Sorry I forgot to mention this is in F30. I found instructions for the service but the service fails when started. Thankyou. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Google Cloud Printing With Cups
Hi, Can someone tell me how I add a Google Cloud Printer to cups once I have the cupscloudprint package installed? Thankyou. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CUPS forcing single-sided printing
Tim: I am running Centos 7 and have weirdness with my HP printer. My original printer, which worked single and double sided perfectly with the pre-installed hplip, died and I had to get a new printer whose driver was unknown to hplip on Centos 7. I am away from my system so I have to rely on memory that I was on 3.15.9 and had to go to 3.18.5. When I did the setup, it would not let me configure to do double-sided even though the printer is capable of such (HP ENVY 7855 if my memory is correct). But I could tell Firefox and Thunderbird that I wanted double-sided in the setup. It gives warning but it works. The odd thing is that it will always print double-sided even if the number of pages is only one. Its a blank side, but I have to wait for side one to dry and then go back through the printer which is wear on the doubled-side mechanism in the hp printer) This is a different problem than yours (I think) but I thought I would mention it as it is similar regarding issues with single vs double. Maybe things will be better behaved on Centos 8 and whatever hplip wt al it ships with (and, hence, tested against) Paul On 10/9/19 2:26 PM, Tim via users wrote: Hi, I have a LAN using CentOS and Fedora installations (currently its CentOS 7 on the server). At times it insists on doing double-sided printing, and will not let me choose single-side. Erratically the option is either unavailable (the drop down menu is not clickable, and says "not available"); or when the option is responding, my selection is ignored; and some days it works properly. The printer is a HP LaserJet P3015. I get this erratic behaviour on any of the PCs, and it used to do this, too, when the server was previously a Fedora install. Anybody have any clues? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
CUPS forcing single-sided printing
Hi, I have a LAN using CentOS and Fedora installations (currently its CentOS 7 on the server). At times it insists on doing double-sided printing, and will not let me choose single-side. Erratically the option is either unavailable (the drop down menu is not clickable, and says "not available"); or when the option is responding, my selection is ignored; and some days it works properly. The printer is a HP LaserJet P3015. I get this erratic behaviour on any of the PCs, and it used to do this, too, when the server was previously a Fedora install. Anybody have any clues? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.1.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Sep 30 14:19:46 UTC 2019 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/30/19 4:56 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 4/30/19 6:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/30/19 2:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the "Approach" application. Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do somnething about CUPS-PDF. Try one last time If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the "default" setting of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*. One last time. Approach automatically selects the default rotation and the default paper size from the print driver (CUPS-PDF). The default paper size is A4, but I figured out how to change it to Letter You can only change the rotation and size back AFTER you first print to it. And it is suppose to save the new setting in the Approach file (.apr), but does not. It is a bug. It is also bad programming, but nothing can be done about it because Approach is abandonware. Yes, and the "default" settings aren't going to help. You probably will have to modify /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf and uncomment and change the #GSCall line. It may work to change -dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage to -dAutoRotatePages=/None and add -c "<> setpagedevice". When making changes make sure the GSCall line has no line breaks. This may work to force all outputs to be landscape. Thank you! -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/30/19 6:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 4/30/19 2:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the >>>> "Approach" >>>> application. >>> >>> Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do >>> somnething about CUPS-PDF. >>> >> >> Try one last time >> >> If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the >> "default" setting >> of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*. >> >> > > One last time. Approach automatically selects the default > rotation and the default paper size from the print driver > (CUPS-PDF). The default paper size is A4, but I figured > out how to change it to Letter > > You can only change the rotation and size back AFTER you first > print to it. And it is suppose to save the new setting > in the Approach file (.apr), but does not. It is a bug. > > It is also bad programming, but nothing can be done about it > because Approach is abandonware. > Yes, and the "default" settings aren't going to help. You probably will have to modify /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf and uncomment and change the #GSCall line. It may work to change -dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage to -dAutoRotatePages=/None and add -c "<> setpagedevice". When making changes make sure the GSCall line has no line breaks. This may work to force all outputs to be landscape. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/30/19 2:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the "Approach" application. Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do somnething about CUPS-PDF. Try one last time If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the "default" setting of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*. One last time. Approach automatically selects the default rotation and the default paper size from the print driver (CUPS-PDF). The default paper size is A4, but I figured out how to change it to Letter You can only change the rotation and size back AFTER you first print to it. And it is suppose to save the new setting in the Approach file (.apr), but does not. It is a bug. It is also bad programming, but nothing can be done about it because Approach is abandonware. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/30/19 4:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the >> "Approach" >> application. > > Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do > somnething about CUPS-PDF. > Try one last time If "Approach" is specifically requesting Portrait it matters not if the "default" setting of cups-pdf is Landscape. The *specific* request overrides the *default*. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 7:10 AM, Tim via users wrote: I haven't touched Lotus since Win98 went out of fashion, so I can't recall what menu options you have (nor find any on-line examples). But have you gone through the menus and looked for a portrait/landscape page setting that is*not* part of the printing dialogue? I can get it to print correctly, but I have to change it every time By way of an example that I can look at (and show you), if you have LibreOffice installed, as well: Open a calc spreadsheet (even an empty blank one - just type some random characters in a few cells to be able to see a print preview, or a test print on paper), open the Format menu, pick Page. This sets the structure of the spreadsheet. LibreOffice works fine, except it can't print an envelope for its life. This is obviously a problem with Approach. But I can't do anything about Approach. I can with CUPS-PDF. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 1:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the "Approach" application. Of course. I can't do anything about Approach, but I can do somnething about CUPS-PDF. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
Tim: >> I'm wondering if you're missing a step. In most authoring software, >> you have to set the page format to landscape or portrait. This >> isn't a printer setting, it's data about the actual document. Todd Chester: > In Approach, when you set up your report, you choose a "paper" size. > Approach gets it from the default print driver for the page. You > can set it to whatever the printer supports. > > Cups-PDF is not the default printer, so when you print to it, you > have to set the page up again. "Supposedly" when you save > the Approach file, it saves the new settings, but this is > the exception. It saves everything else. Generally speaking, portrait or landscape printing isn't a printer setting (unless you have a huge printer that you can stack the paper in sideways), so I'm not too surprised that you have to keep setting it (whether something is portrait or landscape is dependent on the data, not the printer). Printing settings for landscape are a rotation override. I haven't touched Lotus since Win98 went out of fashion, so I can't recall what menu options you have (nor find any on-line examples). But have you gone through the menus and looked for a portrait/landscape page setting that is *not* part of the printing dialogue? By way of an example that I can look at (and show you), if you have LibreOffice installed, as well: Open a calc spreadsheet (even an empty blank one - just type some random characters in a few cells to be able to see a print preview, or a test print on paper), open the Format menu, pick Page. This sets the structure of the spreadsheet. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 1:19 PM, Todd Chester via users wrote: > In Approach, when you set up your report, you choose a "paper" size. > Approach gets it from the default print driver for the page. You > can set it to whatever the printer supports. > > Cups-PDF is not the default printer, so when you print to it, you > have to set the page up again. "Supposedly" when you save > the Approach file, it saves the new settings, but this is > the exception. It saves everything else. Everything you've said indicates the annoying issues are related to the "Approach" application. You will recall that I mentioned that "default" settings for any device will be the settings used in the *absence* of an application specifying the setting and value. So, making changes to the "default" values of the printer are not going to have any effect if the application sets (overrides) the default. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/24/19 10:08 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 20:51 -0700, Todd Chester via users wrote: What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go into Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print again. The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers picks up the defaults from CUPS. It is annoying. I'm wondering if you're missing a step. In most authoring software, you have to set the page format to landscape or portrait. This isn't a printer setting, it's data about the actual document. This will be the default print layout used when you get around to printing it. e.g. In various word processors, you have style formatting options per character, per paragraph, and then the whole page. Hi Tim, In Approach, when you set up your report, you choose a "paper" size. Approach gets it from the default print driver for the page. You can set it to whatever the printer supports. Cups-PDF is not the default printer, so when you print to it, you have to set the page up again. "Supposedly" when you save the Approach file, it saves the new settings, but this is the exception. It saves everything else. -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 20:51 -0700, Todd Chester via users wrote: > What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go > into Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print > again. The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers > picks up the defaults from CUPS. It is annoying. I'm wondering if you're missing a step. In most authoring software, you have to set the page format to landscape or portrait. This isn't a printer setting, it's data about the actual document. This will be the default print layout used when you get around to printing it. e.g. In various word processors, you have style formatting options per character, per paragraph, and then the whole page. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/24/19 9:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 4/25/19 11:51 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go into Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print again. The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers picks up the defaults from CUPS. It is annoying So, I think you're saying, if you remember to set landscape in Approach all is OK printing to Cups-PDF? And that setting is permanent in Approach? So, just something annoying more than broken? The paper is all set up perfectly to print to my OkiData B4350 printer. If I want to make a PDF, I have to change the printer to Portrait after it prints. I can only correct it after it prints. And if you save the new settings, Approach reverts back to the old settings. More annoying than broken, because I have to do it twice and I can't turn the task over to a regular user. I suppose I could always edit the form so that everything crams on a portrait page. Maybe reduce the font. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 11:51 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: > > What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go into > Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print again. > The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers picks up the > defaults from CUPS. It is annoying So, I think you're saying, if you remember to set landscape in Approach all is OK printing to Cups-PDF? And that setting is permanent in Approach? So, just something annoying more than broken? -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/24/19 8:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 4/25/19 11:07 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: It is a Windows program running on Linux under Wine Staging. Wine reads my installed printers from CUPS. I've not used Wine in a long time. I guess you can't install a Windows Printer under it. If you can't get your issue sorted, another idea would be to export the file you want to print into a format available in LibreOffice and open and convert to PDF using its native function or using the Cups PDF printer. Doing some "Googling" has shown people exporting Lotus Approach files to .xls. What I do is print to Cups-PDF, it comes out Portrait. Then I go into Approach's page set up and change it back to Landscape and print again. The setting does not hold in Approach. Changing printers picks up the defaults from CUPS. It is annoying. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 11:07 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: > It is a Windows program running on Linux under Wine Staging. > Wine reads my installed printers from CUPS. I've not used Wine in a long time. I guess you can't install a Windows Printer under it. If you can't get your issue sorted, another idea would be to export the file you want to print into a format available in LibreOffice and open and convert to PDF using its native function or using the Cups PDF printer. Doing some "Googling" has shown people exporting Lotus Approach files to .xls. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/24/19 6:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 4/25/19 8:21 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: It is abandoned. I run it under Wine Staging: You are running this under Wine, so that means Windows? Why not just install a Windows PDF Printer? Windows 10? https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/print-pdf-windows/ It is a Windows program running on Linux under Wine Staging. Wine reads my installed printers from CUPS. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 8:21 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: > It is abandoned. I run it under Wine Staging: You are running this under Wine, so that means Windows? Why not just install a Windows PDF Printer? Windows 10? https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/print-pdf-windows/ -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 9:07 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: > > > On 4/24/19 5:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> Brian over on the CUPS group told me this >>> Not quite. landscape=true rotates the page by 90 degrees >>> in a direction determined by *LandscapeOrientation in >>> the PPD. orientation-requested=4 always rotates by 90 >>> degrees anticlockwise. >> I don't see an answer to if they conflict or not. > > One turn it +90 deg the other -90 deg. Maybe. Ask Brian. Or, if you think it is a conflict then change to landscape=false. It there is a conflict then one would think that would resolve it. In other words, make changes to see if they have effects and note the change or lack of change. > > I use the Cups-PDF driver from Fedora's repo Yes, so do I. When you install, or modify, the printer you have the options of several drivers to use. I'm suggesting you change to Generic CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options) which *is* included with Fedora. So, try using that driver instead. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/24/19 5:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Brian over on the CUPS group told me this Not quite. landscape=true rotates the page by 90 degrees in a direction determined by *LandscapeOrientation in the PPD. orientation-requested=4 always rotates by 90 degrees anticlockwise. I don't see an answer to if they conflict or not. One turn it +90 deg the other -90 deg. Maybe. I use the Cups-PDF driver from Fedora's repo ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does cups-pdf have its own mailing list?
On 4/25/19 8:21 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: > > > On 4/24/19 4:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 4/25/19 3:51 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if they conflict? >> >> I don't think they would. > > Brian over on the CUPS group told me this > Not quite. landscape=true rotates the page by 90 degrees > in a direction determined by *LandscapeOrientation in > the PPD. orientation-requested=4 always rotates by 90 > degrees anticlockwise. I don't see an answer to if they conflict or not. Sounds like Brian would be in a better position to help. > >> >> One thing I would do is use the Cups Web Interface to change the driver from >> Generic >> CUPS-PDF Printer (no options) to CUPS-PDF Printer (w/ options) >> >> You mentioned "Lotus Approach". I am unfamiliar with that application. > > It is abandoned. I run it under Wine Staging: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Lotus_Approach Oh, Wine and discontinued SW involved. That may make it hard to determine where the issue resides. Have you tried the different driver? -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
