Re: Απάντ.: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
On 12/21/2013 11:04 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis issued this missive: Hi, back in the early days of CDR media, we used to consider some drives even incompatible with certain colors. It was a long time ago so if I recall the dark blue ones were the best choose and the silver the worst. Where did your elephant memory recalled that ?? It should have remained in a small drawer in the smallest corner of your brain. Am not sure though brands ( HP, TDK,...) have to do with it, I used to use many of them , just the color. Ah, Kostas! Yes, I dusted the cobwebs from the deepest part of my memory to find that bit about the color of the CD-Rs, but color can still play a part in DVD compatibility. DVD drives are just as sensitive to the laser color and reflectivity of the disk. In addition, there are DVD drives that are compatible with DVD-R(W) media but NOT DVD+R(W) media and vice versa. As far as branding is concerned, there are a limited number of makers of the media and that product is generally purchased and rebranded by the major players. However, I find that going with one of the "big labels" gives one a better chance at getting reliable media. I've had very good luck compatibility-wise with TDK's DVD-R media and both of HP's DVD-R and DVD+R. Keep in mind we have some pretty funky old systems laying about here and it can be a challenge to get media to read on some of them. On 12/20/2013 11:26 AM, Tim issued this missive: > Allegedly, on or about 20 December 2013, Gregory P. Ennis sent: >> The first DVD was created on a different laptop, and it failed on the >> Gateway, but worked on the laptop it had been created on. The Gateway >> machine still had Centos on it so I created another DVD using it, and >> had no problems booting and installing F20. >> >> I have never had a mismatch of DVD drives before, so this was >> unexpected, at least by me. > > Cheap blank discs? (Not always very compatible with drives.) > Burnt the disc at maximum speed? (Not always the best option.) Also check the color of the disk media. Sometimes the color of the media screws up the wavelength of the reflected laser so it doesn't register correctly. We've had problems with that using cheap DVD-Rs (we stick with TDK or HP now). It was a huge problem back in the early days of CD-R media. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -"Hello. My PID is Inigo Montoya. You `kill -9'-ed my parent- - process. Prepare to vi." - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Απάντ.: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
Hi, back in the early days of CDR media, we used to consider some drives even incompatible with certain colors. It was a long time ago so if I recall the dark blue ones were the best choose and the silver the worst. Where did your elephant memory recalled that ?? It should have remained in a small drawer in the smallest corner of your brain. Am not sure though brands ( HP, TDK,...) have to do with it, I used to use many of them , just the color. Εστάλη από το HTC μου - Reply message - Από: "Rick Stevens" Προς: "Community support for Fedora users" Θέμα: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64 Ημ/νία: Παρ, Δεκ 20, 2013 23:27 On 12/20/2013 11:26 AM, Tim issued this missive: > Allegedly, on or about 20 December 2013, Gregory P. Ennis sent: >> The first DVD was created on a different laptop, and it failed on the >> Gateway, but worked on the laptop it had been created on. The Gateway >> machine still had Centos on it so I created another DVD using it, and >> had no problems booting and installing F20. >> >> I have never had a mismatch of DVD drives before, so this was >> unexpected, at least by me. > > Cheap blank discs? (Not always very compatible with drives.) > Burnt the disc at maximum speed? (Not always the best option.) Also check the color of the disk media. Sometimes the color of the media screws up the wavelength of the reflected laser so it doesn't register correctly. We've had problems with that using cheap DVD-Rs (we stick with TDK or HP now). It was a huge problem back in the early days of CD-R media. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at - - from both sides. --A.M. Greeley- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
On 12/20/2013 11:26 AM, Tim issued this missive: Allegedly, on or about 20 December 2013, Gregory P. Ennis sent: The first DVD was created on a different laptop, and it failed on the Gateway, but worked on the laptop it had been created on. The Gateway machine still had Centos on it so I created another DVD using it, and had no problems booting and installing F20. I have never had a mismatch of DVD drives before, so this was unexpected, at least by me. Cheap blank discs? (Not always very compatible with drives.) Burnt the disc at maximum speed? (Not always the best option.) Also check the color of the disk media. Sometimes the color of the media screws up the wavelength of the reflected laser so it doesn't register correctly. We've had problems with that using cheap DVD-Rs (we stick with TDK or HP now). It was a huge problem back in the early days of CD-R media. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at - - from both sides. --A.M. Greeley- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
Allegedly, on or about 20 December 2013, Gregory P. Ennis sent: > The first DVD was created on a different laptop, and it failed on the > Gateway, but worked on the laptop it had been created on. The Gateway > machine still had Centos on it so I created another DVD using it, and > had no problems booting and installing F20. > > I have never had a mismatch of DVD drives before, so this was > unexpected, at least by me. Cheap blank discs? (Not always very compatible with drives.) Burnt the disc at maximum speed? (Not always the best option.) -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
Subject: f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:54:01 -0600 I have a Gateway NV53A laptop that has Centos 6.5 installed and performing without a problem. I tried to install the x64 f20 on this machine, but have not been able to get the discs to install. I checksumed the disc and it passed I tested the disc with the boot process, and could not figure out if it passed or not, it took a long time and then apparently tried to automatically install, and then died. I rebooted several times some of which were in 'basic mode' but there was no success. Any one else having trouble installing f20 Greg Ennis -- I think I found the problem. Although the checksum of the DVD was 'PASS' not only by sha256sum, but also by the installation program I think the problem was a mismatch of DVD drives. The first DVD was created on a different laptop, and it failed on the Gateway, but worked on the laptop it had been created on. The Gateway machine still had Centos on it so I created another DVD using it, and had no problems booting and installing F20. I have never had a mismatch of DVD drives before, so this was unexpected, at least by me. Greg Ennis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
I have a Gateway NV53A laptop that has Centos 6.5 installed and performing without a problem. I tried to install the x64 f20 on this machine, but have not been able to get the discs to install. I checksumed the disc and it passed I tested the disc with the boot process, and could not figure out if it passed or not, it took a long time and then apparently tried to automatically install, and then died. I rebooted several times some of which were in 'basic mode' but there was no success. Any one else having trouble installing f20 Greg Ennis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
