Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
I've submitted Mozilla bug #1570092 to deal with this problem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
Tim: >> After dealing with some alleged "tech support," >> sometimes you want to reboot the person. Bill: > H > I could read that in more than one way! > :} Exactly! > Modem reboots/resets are a pain. Gotta hold a teeny, recessed button > in for 30+ seconds; or unplug the modem, remove the battery, put the > battery back in, and plug the modem back in. Either way, it's then > 15+ minutes for the thing to boot up. No fun with me, either, with a fibre modem bolted on the wall a foot up from the floor, with a tiny reset hole facing down (as well as all the furniture in the way). It's just about as hard to unplug its DC power plug from the UPS (which has no off switch, at all). Likewise there's a 10 minute wait before it comes alive, it's slow to boot, and the ISP is slow to configure things. Sometimes it won't authenticate and you can go through a few reboots. Our phone goes through it, good luck if you needed to make an emergency call and had to reset the box, first. The phone used to go through the modem/router, too, as VOIP, until I protested. That added another 5 minute wait till you could use the phone. And the modem/router had no battery backup. This was supposed to be progress!!! > My understanding is that the customer service reps are just > following scripts (and "orders"). What's bad is the hard time they > give me when I ask to escalate, and the high monthly fee I pay the > ISP. It's why I hate large ISPs. The smaller ones generally don't have call centres. They have techs running the place, notice their own faults soon, and know how to fix yours. > I wonder how much of that fee goes to the huge amount of advertising > they do. That would be no surprise. In many businesses, the cost of the product is often far less than the marketing. Especially if its mass marketing. All our essential services are like that after they were privatised, that just pushed prices through the roof, as they just priced gouged everyone up to the point that people were willing to pay. I was mind boggled by a news article trying to claim that privatisation had pushed prices down, where elsewhere in the same article was a table of prices showing how *everything* had gone up, very much. Unfortunately, we're too used to spin, but it's staggering to see someone try and say one thing while providing contrary evidence. > Then there's that almost universal tech support answer: > "We don't support Linux.". Which, generally speaking, is easier to support. The users tend to be less clueless, and it's more a case of "tell me the info," rather than "where do I type it in?" -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 5.0.16-100.fc28.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 14 18:22:28 UTC 2019 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. It seems the modern trend with Linux programmers is to change existing software so that it's more annoying to use (e.g. making reboots required, when they never used to be), then denying that *that* is a nuisance, then saying it's necessary (ignoring that several years of prior versions didn't have that stupid requirement), then complaining about being criticised for making things worse. Don't try giving me an Emperor's New Clothes routine, it won't wash. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
> After dealing with some alleged "tech support," > sometimes you want to reboot the person. H I could read that in more than one way! :} Modem reboots/resets are a pain. Gotta hold a teeny, recessed button in for 30+ seconds; or unplug the modem, remove the battery, put the battery back in, and plug the modem back in. Either way, it's then 15+ minutes for the thing to boot up. My understanding is that the customer service reps are just following scripts (and "orders"). What's bad is the hard time they give me when I ask to escalate, and the high monthly fee I pay the ISP. I wonder how much of that fee goes to the huge amount of advertising they do. Then there's that almost universal tech support answer: "We don't support Linux.". Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
> You have the nvidia drivers installed from, probably, rpmfusion. ... I understand. Thank-you, Ed. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
Tim (from my tag line): >> Next time your service provider asks you to reboot your equipment, >> ask them to reboot theirs, first. Bill: > Do you really want the service provider to reboot their equipment?! > :) After dealing with some alleged "tech support," sometimes you want to reboot the person. Actually my first ISP was really good, albeit expensive. If I dialled in, and nothing seemed to work, I'd note down the IP I'd been assigned, and send them an email about this when I did manage to log in. I'd get an email back acknowledging it, often saying they've checked on that piece of their gear, and that they'd given it a reboot (it's often the simplest thing to do, to unstick equipment). If you were having problems logging on, they'd ask you to dial a specific number, and they'd watch the login. Then they could tell you if your modem was faulty, needed different AT settings, or you'd mistyped your credentials. I suppose one reason that they were so good, is that before they became an ISP they were a computing consultancy firm. Unfortunately, they got bought out. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 5.0.16-100.fc28.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 14 18:22:28 UTC 2019 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Computers are like dentists. They have their uses, but they're both bloody pains. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On 7/28/19 12:00 PM, home user via users wrote: > By the way, what is all that activity just after "dnf upgrade" completes? You have the nvidia drivers installed from, probably, rpmfusion. So, every time an upgrade installs a new kernel there will be activity after the upgrade as the akmod process builds and installs the matching kernel module. This show in the "dnf history" as... 833 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-25 11:28 | Install | 1 -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
> I assume that the > https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IUlWCabjTPra7laQna9xHg > log is unfiltered. correct. > I presume that you did a reboot, soon after. When I do my weekly "dnf upgrade", I am logged in as root, and the only things that I explicitly have running are xeyes, ksysguard, and a terminal. My sequence is: 1. "dnf upgrade dnf"; 2. "dnf upgrade"; 3. sometimes, after the "dnf upgrade" is done and I've received the command prompt in the terminal, there seems to be some heavy activity. I hear the fans surge and see in ksysguard the CPU load near max for up to a few minutes. So I've learned to wait until ksysguard shows the system in an almost idle state (CPU activity almost zero for many seconds). Then... 4. reboot. I always reboot after "dnf upgrade" and the system is settled down. > NB: When you update Firefox, you really need > to *fully* quit the program and restart. This is taken care of by step 4 above. > So do all other websites cause problems, or just some? Every login I've tried in Firefox since this last patching has had the problem. No logins in Firefox had problems before this last patching. Also, I'm having no problems logging into my e-mail accounts via Thunderbird. > So I wonder what isn't run from gnome, under those circumstances? I have no idea. Someone else? Has anyone else observed the problem I've having? By the way, what is all that activity just after "dnf upgrade" completes? > Next time your service provider asks you to reboot your equipment, > ask them to reboot theirs, first. Do you really want the service provider to reboot their equipment?! :) thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On 7/28/19 7:34 AM, Tim via users wrote: > There > may be an issue from something without gnome in the name, and we can't > see what the disabled repo was. Oh, I can answer that. The new version of akmod-nvida installs the kmod after a kernel install in a different way than in the past. The disable repo is the result of this call by the process. Command Line : -y install --disablerepo=* /tmp/akmods.yilceqq0/results/kmod-nvidia-5.1.19-300.fc30.x86_64-430.26-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
Hi Bill, On Fri, 2019-07-26 at 14:16 -0600, home user via users wrote: > (Tim: dnf history) > I put the relevant part of the dnf log here: > "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IUlWCabjTPra7laQna9xHg";. > Firefox was upgraded. I did not see "gnome" anywhere in the log. > If something underneath was patched/upgraded, I would not recognize > it. > > "dnf history gnome | more" gives this (first 9 lines) > - > -bash.5[~]: dnf history gnome | more > No transaction which manipulates package 'gnome' was found. > ID | Command line | Date and time| Action(s) | > Altered > --- > 833 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-25 11:28 | Install| 1 > 832 | upgrade | 2019-07-25 11:21 | E, I, U|76 > 831 | upgrade | 2019-07-18 11:35 | Upgrade|55 > 830 | upgrade dnf | 2019-07-18 11:34 | Upgrade| 5 > 829 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-11 11:18 | Install| 1 > 828 | upgrade | 2019-07-11 11:11 | E, I, U| > 79 EE > 827 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-04 10:51 | Install| 1 > 826 | upgrade | 2019-07-04 10:45 | E, I, U|60 > 825 | install Downloads/zoom_x | 2019-07-01 13:16 | Install| > 1 EE > - I would look at the history output without grepping for gnome. There may be an issue from something without gnome in the name, and we can't see what the disabled repo was. I assume that the https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IUlWCabjTPra7laQna9xHg log is unfiltered. Things that jump out of me from that list are big changes: kernel, kernel-headers, firefox, and kmod-nvidia. I presume that you did a reboot, soon after. It may be worth looking a bit further back, in case a prior install/upgrade caused the problem, but you hadn't done anything that would make you notice it, yet. NB: When you update Firefox, you really need to *fully* quit the program and restart. I've found that it goes haywire, otherwise. If you close a Firefox window, and other Firefox windows are left still running, it's still running the prior installation. > I don't think it was a change in the website. I have the same > problem with other sites. > > (Ed: Start firefox from the command line with --safe-mode ...) > The problem occurs in safe-mode. Using safe mode should eliminate any plug-ins as being a cause. That still leaves things like scripting, or a change in encryption methods. So do all other websites cause problems, or just some? You mentioned it seems okay in a plasma session. So I wonder what isn't run from gnome, under those circumstances? gnome-settings- daemon, gnome-keyring? In Gnome you can see what's in the startup applications, there must be a similar tool for plasma. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 5.0.16-100.fc28.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 14 18:22:28 UTC 2019 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Next time your service provider asks you to reboot your equipment, ask them to reboot theirs, first. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
Good morning, (responding to Samuel and Fred) Ctrl-Alt-F2 and Ctrl-Alt-F3 both work. From there I am able to kill Firefox. That seems brings the system load back to typical. Alt-F1 returns me to the Gnome graphical session. The others do not. (responding to Ed) > If the issue did surface after that date No problem Wednesdays evening; "dnf upgrade" was done Thursday late morning; problems observed Thursday evening. > So, you want to do "dnf history info 832" For the results, see here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/oRTWU3TPnKPuw-a98yZkFw";. > Have you tried another browser? Yes. It takes a few new identities, but there is no problem if I use the Tor browser. I have not tried any other browsers. I don't think I have any other browsers, and I am adverse to installing any commercial browsers. There is no problem when I use Plasma rather than Gnome. > Also, if you run "GNOME on Xorg" do you also have a problem > (That is Xorg v.s. the default Wayland) Yes. (not responding to anyone specifically) At this point, * I can end the CPU near-overload; and * there are work-arounds. Those are important, but only a part of the reason for starting this thread. The real problem is still there, and I don't feel it's pinned down enough to submit well-written bug(s). My sense so far is that a bug was introduced in the new Firefox, but I can't rule out Gnome. Are there other good candidates for the source of the problem? * Should a bug be submitted against Firefox? * Should a bug be submitted against Gnome? * Is there anything else I should submit a bug against? Are there any other quick, simple tests I should do before submitting bugs? thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On 7/27/19 4:16 AM, home user via users wrote: > > -bash.5[~]: dnf history gnome | more > No transaction which manipulates package 'gnome' was found. > ID | Command line | Date and time | Action(s) | > Altered > --- > 833 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-25 11:28 | Install | 1 > 832 | upgrade | 2019-07-25 11:21 | E, I, U | 76 > 831 | upgrade | 2019-07-18 11:35 | Upgrade | 55 > 830 | upgrade dnf | 2019-07-18 11:34 | Upgrade | 5 > 829 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-11 11:18 | Install | 1 > 828 | upgrade | 2019-07-11 11:11 | E, I, U | 79 > EE > 827 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-04 10:51 | Install | 1 > 826 | upgrade | 2019-07-04 10:45 | E, I, U | 60 > 825 | install Downloads/zoom_x | 2019-07-01 13:16 | Install | 1 > EE Well, that simply tells one that 76 packages were affected on 7/25. If the issue did surface after that date you'd want to see which packages were altered. So, you want to do "dnf history info 832" > - > I don't think it was a change in the website. I have the same problem with > other sites. > > (Ed: Start firefox from the command line with --safe-mode ...) > The problem occurs in safe-mode. > > (Ed: input fields; web sites) > Both input fields are on the same web page as soon as the page is loaded. > The problem > occurs with what I assume is a fictitious username as well as my real login > name. > I've by now experienced these problems with several web sites. Here are 5 > well-known > different web sites: > - amazon (https://www.amazon.com/) > - ebay (https://www.ebay.com/) > - Mozilla bugzilla (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home) > - Redhat Bugzilla (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/) > - USAJobs (https://www.usajobs.gov/) > and others. Have you tried another browser? Also, if you run "GNOME on Xorg" do you also have a problem (That is Xorg v.s. the default Wayland) -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 02:16:15PM -0600, home user via users wrote: > (replying to all responders) > > Actually, the first thing that catches my attention is that when I > go to the password entry box, the system fans really surge. This > suggests to me the CPUs are working at or near capacity. > > I also see top and ksysguard repeatedly freezing for several seconds. > > (Fred: dirty shutdown; top) > The system was not responding to any keystrokes or trackball clicks. > The only remaining options are hard reset and hard power off. there are often additional choices besides a hard shutdown. google for "magic sysreq key". > > (Fred: memory) > The problem is not memory use. It is CPU load. OK. I was thinking of a "swap storm". if the system gets pushed into heavy swapping (because of too much memory neededfor what is running) it can slow to a crawl, sometimes taking many minutes to recover once the memory pressure is relieved. > > (Fred: waiting) > I waited quite a few seconds; certainly long enough to know there's > a real problem. It does take a while to move the cursor all over > the place, clicking in various places (e.g. menus, 'x' in the upper > right corner of various windows) along the way. > > (Fred: CTRL-ALT-F2 or CTRL-ALT-F3) > Does going into this mode kill the session I was in before? If no, > how do I get back? If yes, how do I get back to normal operation > without rebooting? No, the GUI is still there, it's just on another virtual screen. Usually you can go back there by doing ALT-F1 or CTRL-ALT-F1. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness. - Proverbs 15:9 (niv) - ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On 7/26/19 1:16 PM, home user via users wrote: (Fred: CTRL-ALT-F2 or CTRL-ALT-F3) Does going into this mode kill the session I was in before? If no, how do I get back? If yes, how do I get back to normal operation without rebooting? It doesn't kill your session. You are switching to a different virtual console. I don't know how wayland uses the consoles, but for X, console 1 is gdm, console 2 is your session, so use ctrl-alt-f3 to open console 3. Use alt-f2 or alt-f1 to find your previous session. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
(replying to all responders) Actually, the first thing that catches my attention is that when I go to the password entry box, the system fans really surge. This suggests to me the CPUs are working at or near capacity. I also see top and ksysguard repeatedly freezing for several seconds. (Fred: dirty shutdown; top) The system was not responding to any keystrokes or trackball clicks. The only remaining options are hard reset and hard power off. (Fred: memory) The problem is not memory use. It is CPU load. (Fred: waiting) I waited quite a few seconds; certainly long enough to know there's a real problem. It does take a while to move the cursor all over the place, clicking in various places (e.g. menus, 'x' in the upper right corner of various windows) along the way. (Fred: CTRL-ALT-F2 or CTRL-ALT-F3) Does going into this mode kill the session I was in before? If no, how do I get back? If yes, how do I get back to normal operation without rebooting? (Tim: dnf history) I put the relevant part of the dnf log here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IUlWCabjTPra7laQna9xHg";. Firefox was upgraded. I did not see "gnome" anywhere in the log. If something underneath was patched/upgraded, I would not recognize it. "dnf history gnome | more" gives this (first 9 lines) - -bash.5[~]: dnf history gnome | more No transaction which manipulates package 'gnome' was found. ID | Command line | Date and time| Action(s) | Altered --- 833 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-25 11:28 | Install| 1 832 | upgrade | 2019-07-25 11:21 | E, I, U| 76 831 | upgrade | 2019-07-18 11:35 | Upgrade| 55 830 | upgrade dnf | 2019-07-18 11:34 | Upgrade| 5 829 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-11 11:18 | Install| 1 828 | upgrade | 2019-07-11 11:11 | E, I, U| 79 EE 827 | -y install --disablerepo | 2019-07-04 10:51 | Install| 1 826 | upgrade | 2019-07-04 10:45 | E, I, U| 60 825 | install Downloads/zoom_x | 2019-07-01 13:16 | Install| 1 EE - I don't think it was a change in the website. I have the same problem with other sites. (Ed: Start firefox from the command line with --safe-mode ...) The problem occurs in safe-mode. (Ed: input fields; web sites) Both input fields are on the same web page as soon as the page is loaded. The problem occurs with what I assume is a fictitious username as well as my real login name. I've by now experienced these problems with several web sites. Here are 5 well-known different web sites: - amazon (https://www.amazon.com/) - ebay (https://www.ebay.com/) - Mozilla bugzilla (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home) - Redhat Bugzilla (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/) - USAJobs (https://www.usajobs.gov/) and others. Thank-you everyone for your efforts. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On 7/26/19 10:24 AM, home user via users wrote: > While trying to sign on to a financial institution's web site Oh I also wonder about the authentication process page. Is there a space on the page for both username and password? If so, does the problem exist if you pick a random (invalid) username and then start typing the password? If the answer to that question is "yes", then is there any harm in disclosing the institution to see if someone can duplicate the issue? -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On 7/26/19 1:01 PM, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 20:24 -0600, home user via users wrote: >> How do I determine what the problem is? >> This problem did not occur before today's "dnf upgrade". The last >> patching before today was last Thursday. > You can try "dnf history" to see what had changed recently, and see if > anything jumps out at you at being browser- or screen-related. > > It could be the website, they may have changed something at the same > time. > And, of course, there is always... Try a different browser. Start firefox from the command line with --safe-mode to disable extensions and themes -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 20:24 -0600, home user via users wrote: > How do I determine what the problem is? > This problem did not occur before today's "dnf upgrade". The last > patching before today was last Thursday. You can try "dnf history" to see what had changed recently, and see if anything jumps out at you at being browser- or screen-related. It could be the website, they may have changed something at the same time. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 5.0.16-100.fc28.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 14 18:22:28 UTC 2019 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Lucky for you I typed this, you'd never be able to read my handwriting. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 08:24:07PM -0600, home user via users wrote: > (f29; gnome; Firefox 68.0; all patched late this morning) > > While trying to sign on to a financial institution's web site, when > I start to enter the password, the cpu suddenly gets extremely busy > and stays that way. I had to hit the power button. Upon booting up > again, I launched ksysguard, and then re-tried the login. Again I > saw the cpu essentially max out. I had to hit the power button. > Upon booting up, I launched "top" in a terminal, and then retried > the login. Again the cpu essentially maxed out. "top" showed that > gnome was the cpu hog. > > I again hit the power button and booted up. This time I logged in > to a plasma session. I was able to log in and do what I had to do > with no problems. > > This one is really strange. How do I determine what the problem is? > This problem did not occur before today's "dnf upgrade". The last > patching before today was last Thursday. > > thanks, > Bill. well, firstly, it's bad practice to do a dirty shutdown of a running system. If you've got top running, you can kill processes from within the top UI. in top, hit "h" for help. note that "k" will kill processes. Perhaps you can see which gnome component it is that's hogging RAM then report that to the appropriate authorities. Also, sometimes when some process hogs all the memory, it is transient and if you can be patient it may calm down so you don't have to take drastic action. further, it is possible to enable additional columns in top to help figure out where the memory is going. One can also try CTRL-ALT-F2 or CTRL-ALT-F3 or similar to get a non-GUI terminal. those don't use nearly as much system resources as a terminal window. from there top and other commands may respond better even in the presence of a runaway process. Good luck! > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good. - Proverbs 15:3 (niv) - ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
gnome max-out during sign-in in Firefox.
(f29; gnome; Firefox 68.0; all patched late this morning) While trying to sign on to a financial institution's web site, when I start to enter the password, the cpu suddenly gets extremely busy and stays that way. I had to hit the power button. Upon booting up again, I launched ksysguard, and then re-tried the login. Again I saw the cpu essentially max out. I had to hit the power button. Upon booting up, I launched "top" in a terminal, and then retried the login. Again the cpu essentially maxed out. "top" showed that gnome was the cpu hog. I again hit the power button and booted up. This time I logged in to a plasma session. I was able to log in and do what I had to do with no problems. This one is really strange. How do I determine what the problem is? This problem did not occur before today's "dnf upgrade". The last patching before today was last Thursday. thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
