Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04.04.2014 23:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? rday The Firefox is executed within the Xorg - X server. So you can start from there, - Xorg module for video card - Mesa-based DRI module Down the rabbit hole, - Kernel video module poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 05.04.2014 11:23, poma wrote: On 04.04.2014 23:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? rday The Firefox is executed within the Xorg - X server. So you can start from there, - Xorg module for video card - Mesa-based DRI module Down the rabbit hole, - Kernel video module Xorg ati video module https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/xorg-x11-drv-ati Xorg Intel video module https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/xorg-x11-drv-intel Xorg nouveau video module https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau Mesa-based DRI modules https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/mesa For testing purposes you can temporarily switch to: Xorg modesetting video module - basic modesetting fallback module https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/xorg-x11-drv-modesetting i.e. $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Device Identifier video0 Driver modesetting EndSection Check what's happening with: $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/04/2014 05:16 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. Apologies if asking you to repeat yourself, but I don't see the previous messages on this. What have you tried? What do you see? The internet is full of Firefox is slow, and here's what to do postings. Over the years, I've run safe mode (see the man page), started the Profile Manager (see the man page) and started with a clean profile, enabled/disabled syncing, disabled all plugins, and disabled Flash, all in attempts to fix a performance issue. All of which, in various combinations, resulted in partial, temporary victories. So, let us know what you've tried, so we can avoid repeating the internet. Happily running F19 and FireFox 28.0, Ted -- Ted Roche Associates, LLC Works fine on my machine http://www.tedroche.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 08:02 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. Apologies if asking you to repeat yourself, but I don't see the previous messages on this. That's because he posted them to the Fedora Test list. Once again folks, this is *the wrong list for discussing Rawhide*. People who continue the thread here are just compounding the problem, which is that many of those developing Rawhide don't even read *this* list. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/05/14 21:05, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: That's because he posted them to the Fedora Test list. Once again folks, this is *the wrong list for discussing Rawhide*. People who continue the thread here are just compounding the problem, which is that many of those developing Rawhide don't even read *this* list. Well, he had previously posted about this problem on the *test* list on 3/29 and has gotten several replies and suggestions. Some, like myself, haven't had any problems. Others have offered suggestions about not running the debug version of the kernel. Then there are the usual flash is your problem suggestions or asking about memory capacity. I suggested here, and on the test list, that he try using a newly created user to eliminate something in his environment. I've not seen any response to my suggestion. So.the troubleshooting of this issue seems haphazard at best. Of course the idea of having a martini while waiting to switch tabs does appeal to me. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 08:02 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. Apologies if asking you to repeat yourself, but I don't see the previous messages on this. That's because he posted them to the Fedora Test list. Once again folks, this is *the wrong list for discussing Rawhide*. i know, my mistake, profuse apologies. i will take this back to the test list. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 05.04.2014 15:05, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 08:02 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. Apologies if asking you to repeat yourself, but I don't see the previous messages on this. That's because he posted them to the Fedora Test list. Once again folks, this is *the wrong list for discussing Rawhide*. People who continue the thread here are just compounding the problem, which is that many of those developing Rawhide don't even read *this* list. poc Urbi et Orbi? :) This list provides community assistance, encouragement, and advice for Fedora users. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users This is a very vague definition, what is the what. If Fedora user has problems with digestion, should she be advised. Maybe ... for the Fedora Current Supported Releases usage, would be more accurate. I'm still waiting for my Martinis shaken, Robert! :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 17:16 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, Wrong list. Post this to the Fedora Test list. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/04/14 23:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? rday Have you tried other browsers for example google-chrome? -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/05/14 05:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? Must not be a general problem since. [egreshko@f20kde ~]$ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 21 (Rawhide) [egreshko@f20kde ~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-28.0-3.fc21.x86_64 [egreshko@f20kde ~]$ uname -a Linux f20kde 3.15.0-0.rc0.git7.1.fc21.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 3 01:09:55 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux And all is running just fine for me. I think others have said the same thing on the testing list where this issue should be addressed. I suppose you've already tried creating a new/clean user and have the same problem? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/05/14 03:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? as mentioned, have you tried a new profile? SWAG #1. have tried removing current firefox installation and installed rawhide or earlier version? SWAG #2. open Browser Console ctrl+shift+j, select [Clear] button, restart firefox, try opening tabs, after they open, ctrl+shift+j to see if anything shows. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 17:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? The flash plugin is infamous for doing this. -- Susi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
