Re: i8kuitls bug makes impossible use of F14 on Dell Latitude D820
On Monday, 15 November, 2010 @04:16 zulu, Juan R. de Silva scribed: With i8krellm I always kept the CPU temperature below 48 degrees C. True - fans run a lot. But again, fan is a cheap part. I could never get the i8k plugin for GKrellem to work... seemed like it was looking for its files in the wrong subdirectory or something. That was a few versions ago, and I don't have that i8200 any more. But I did replace the dual fan that sucked air over the CPU's heat-piped sink-to-radiator then blew it out the back, and while the fan was only $5 on ebay (and it appeared new, though I don't know how to prove that), I can assure you it was no small job. It takes 3 to 6 hours, depending on how many times you've done it. I also replaced the fan on my wife's 8200, and got it down to 4 hours the second time. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
i8kuitls bug makes impossible use of F14 on Dell Latitude D820
I used i8krllm plugin on F11 and F12 to manage cooling fans on my laptop. However, after upgrade to F14 I found the plugin not functioning correctly in Auto mode. It does not respect any temperature settings anymore. Instead it runs fans at full speed continually and leaves as the only option Manual fans management. Imagine this... :-( Well, it would be pity if I have to stop using Fedora on my laptop due to a such stupid bug. Any one using Dell laptop here? What would be a solution? The laptop gets pretty hot otherwise. Interestingly enough I run across almost the same problem after installing openSUSE 11.3. These guys just do not have i8kutils in their repos at all. Though the laptop is slightly cooler then in F14 (who knows why?), I am still hesitant to use it without proper fan management. I'll try to ask for help on openSUSE newsgroup. See, what they say. Isn't it weird that 2 of the mainstream distros left on cold quite a large number of Dell laptop users. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i8kuitls bug makes impossible use of F14 on Dell Latitude D820
I used i8krllm plugin on F11 and F12 to manage cooling fans on my laptop. However, after upgrade to F14 I found the plugin not functioning correctly in Auto mode. It does not respect any temperature settings anymore. Instead it runs fans at full speed continually and leaves as the only option Manual fans management. Imagine this... :-( Well, it would be pity if I have to stop using Fedora on my laptop due to a such stupid bug. Any one using Dell laptop here? What would be a solution? The laptop gets pretty hot otherwise. Interestingly enough I run across almost the same problem after installing openSUSE 11.3. These guys just do not have i8kutils in their repos at all. Though the laptop is slightly cooler then in F14 (who knows why?), I am still hesitant to use it without proper fan management. I'll try to ask for help on openSUSE newsgroup. See, what they say. Isn't it weird that 2 of the mainstream distros left on cold quite a large number of Dell laptop users. I couldn't find any bugzilla for this issue in either the fedora bugzilla or Debian bug system. Have you filed one? Is it really impossible to use F14, or annoying? I mean, it sounds (no pun intended) like you'd have a noisy systembut it would work. FWIW, these utils seem to be maintained by folks on the Debian side. -- Scully: I just came up with a pretty sick theory Mulder. Mulder: Oooh, I'm listening! The X-Files: Our Town 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i8kuitls bug makes impossible use of F14 on Dell Latitude D820
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:38:36 + (UTC) Juan R. de Silva juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com wrote: I used i8krllm plugin on F11 and F12 to manage cooling fans on my laptop. However, after upgrade to F14 I found the plugin not functioning correctly in Auto mode. It does not respect any temperature settings anymore. Instead it runs fans at full speed continually and leaves as the only option Manual fans management. Imagine this... :-( ...snip... Possibly this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=647677 which is a kernel issue. Perhaps both Fedora and OpenSUSE use the same kernel version? This is a d820? I have one here, and have never had to install any tool to manage the fans, it just works fine out of the box. Perhaps a bios upgrade is in order? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i8kuitls bug makes impossible use of F14 on Dell Latitude D820
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:11:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I used i8krllm plugin on F11 and F12 to manage cooling fans on my laptop. However, after upgrade to F14 I found the plugin not functioning correctly in Auto mode. It does not respect any temperature settings anymore. Instead it runs fans at full speed continually and leaves as the only option Manual fans management. Imagine this... :-( Well, it would be pity if I have to stop using Fedora on my laptop due to a such stupid bug. Any one using Dell laptop here? What would be a solution? The laptop gets pretty hot otherwise. Interestingly enough I run across almost the same problem after installing openSUSE 11.3. These guys just do not have i8kutils in their repos at all. Though the laptop is slightly cooler then in F14 (who knows why?), I am still hesitant to use it without proper fan management. I'll try to ask for help on openSUSE newsgroup. See, what they say. Isn't it weird that 2 of the mainstream distros left on cold quite a large number of Dell laptop users. I couldn't find any bugzilla for this issue in either the fedora bugzilla or Debian bug system. Have you filed one? I think it is one that Kevin mentions below. Is it really impossible to use F14, or annoying? I mean, it sounds (no pun intended) like you'd have a noisy systembut it would work. Well, it all depends of a point of view. Yes, it is possible to work, if I would agree to slowly cook my old Latitude D820 friend. The temperature keeps almost permanently up to 58-60 degrees C. It probably is not mortal. However, I used to keep it not higher than 48. It is much cheaper to replace an overrun fan than any other part of the laptop. Though, one could argue that this is probably a question of a habit of mine. FWIW, these utils seem to be maintained by folks on the Debian side. I know. The problem is, their do not provide a source package anymore but binary. Thus there is no chance to compile it on my system. So, it does looks that the thing is available only for Debian and based on it distros. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i8kuitls bug makes impossible use of F14 on Dell Latitude D820
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:20:30 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:38:36 + (UTC) Juan R. de Silva juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com wrote: I used i8krllm plugin on F11 and F12 to manage cooling fans on my laptop. However, after upgrade to F14 I found the plugin not functioning correctly in Auto mode. It does not respect any temperature settings anymore. Instead it runs fans at full speed continually and leaves as the only option Manual fans management. Imagine this... :-( ...snip... Possibly this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=647677 I've seen it too. Looks like it is the bug. Have you noticed the priority they set it? LOW. :-( which is a kernel issue. Perhaps both Fedora and OpenSUSE use the same kernel version? I've tried Ubuntu Maveric, which runs 2.6.35 kernel and did not notice a problem. This is a d820? I have one here, and have never had to install any tool to manage the fans, it just works fine out of the box. Perhaps a bios upgrade is in order? Well, my BIOS manages fans as it is supposed. The problem is that, in my taste, it is supposed (by design probably ?) to cook a laptop sooner then I would see it happen. :-) With i8krellm I always kept the CPU temperature below 48 degrees C. True - fans run a lot. But again, fan is a cheap part. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i8kuitls bug makes impossible use of F14 on Dell Latitude D820
On 11/15/2010 12:02 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: Well, it all depends of a point of view. Yes, it is possible to work, if I would agree to slowly cook my old Latitude D820 friend. My comment was based on your saying runs fans at full speed continually which I wouldn't think results in cooking or overheatingbut more noise. -- Mater artium necessitas. [Necessity is the mother of invention]. 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
