Re: ide editor??
On 5/24/23 16:23, Michael Hennebry wrote: gedit I have gedit installed but don't use it much. I typically use leafpad. gedit handled UFT-16 and leaf pad does not, so I know I need to transition at some point. I adore leafpad ability to drop all formatting when I need to convert something to plain text and the place I want to drop it still does some formatting even when I paste special as plain test. Paste into where I want, note the formatting I did not want, paste into leafpad, then paste from leafpad to where I want. And when am doing thigs in plain text, I do not like tabs. I want separate windows. (I suppose I can tell gedit to do that, but I have not looked yet.) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On Wed, 24 May 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-24 at 08:43 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There's only one true editor for developers: emacs Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. ? Ah, all the old jokes again :-) Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift EMACS Makes A Computer Slow. I usually use gvim and hand-made make files. If I get stuck, I print something out, but not from gvim, from gedit. Printing from gvim gives me a rather thin font that I find hard to read. Ideally I would discover what gedit does and tell gvim to do that. Have not been able to do either. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 6:45 PM bruce wrote: > Hi. > > Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and > why if you care to expound). > > Are there any you prefer for linux vs windows? > Emacs unless the edit I want to make is very small and I don't have emacs running, then vi(m). Emacs works well on linux, Windows, and macOS in GUI mode when not using ssh, but also works well in text mode. A mouse is not required to use emacs (so I don't have rummage thru the cruft on my desk to find one!). My memory has never been reliable, but after 40 years, my fingers know emacs -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On Wed, 2023-05-24 at 08:43 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > There's only one true editor for developers: > > > > emacs > > > > Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. > > EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. 😂 Ah, all the old jokes again :-) Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On 5/23/23 18:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There's only one true editor for developers: emacs Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. EMACS is a great OS. It just needs a decent text editor. 😂 -- Thomas ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On 5/23/23 14:44, bruce wrote: Hi. Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and why if you care to expound). Are there any you prefer for linux vs windows? just curious... thanks I program in Raku (Perl 6). My go to editor is Geany. Runs in Windows and Linux. The big thing I adore about Geany is that it is thin enough that it under `ssh -X` over the Internet on a DSL connection. I have two customers with Linux servers I will ssh into and program in Geany over the ssh connection. (I do not care much for bloated software.) They also have a wonderful community that will help you out with issues. Con: Geany does not recognize my favorite raku group comment blocks the way I like and underscores are hard to see. Nothing is perfect. I will typically program in Linux and run under qemu-kvm Windows 11 when programming for Windows. I also will sometimes use vi, leafpad, and notepad, but 95% of the time I am in Geany ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On Tue, 2023-05-23 at 17:44 -0400, bruce wrote: > Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and > why if you care to expound). Pen and paper, back in my day. Plan it, write mnemonics on paper. Look up and write op-codes on paper. Type it in. I was the compiler. Somewhere I've still got some blank ruled pages for mnemonics, op- codes, and comments. And a list of 8085 codes. I may have thrown away the SDK85 handbook. I wish I hadn't, after seeing people selling them for $300+ on ebay. And for non-machine-language coding, still pen and paper, and a printer. Plan it on paper. Type in commands. Run it. Fix a few syntax errors on screen, you nearly always made a typo. But if you had more than you cared to find on-screen, print the code out, debug it with pen and ink, type in the corrections. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.90.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu May 4 15:21:22 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
I used to use CodeBlocks when I was trying to learn C++, but ever since
VSCodium came out?..(https://vscodium.com/)its my go to for
HTML/CSS/Python stuff. When its just editing an .RPM or .LIST file
("/etc/apt/sources.list") I go with gEdit only because Fedora has come
with that since time began and its the one I'm most comfortable with.
EGO II
On 5/23/23 8:57 PM, Emmett Culley via users wrote:
On 5/23/23 2:44 PM, bruce wrote:
Hi.
Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and
why if you care to expound).
Are there any you prefer for linux vs windows?
just curious...
thanks
I've been using PHPstorm for about eight years, and like it a lot.
Used Eclipse when I was doing C and C++, but for sure PHPstorm is my
preferred IDE these days. Javascript, PHP, Vue and Laravel all have
great integration.
I understand the makers of PHPstorm have a "bigger" app that is useful
for many other languages, but concentrated on Java. IntelliJ I think
it is called.
Not free, but well worth the cost, and getting better all the time.
Emmett
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Re: ide editor??
On 5/23/23 2:44 PM, bruce wrote: Hi. Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and why if you care to expound). Are there any you prefer for linux vs windows? just curious... thanks I've been using PHPstorm for about eight years, and like it a lot. Used Eclipse when I was doing C and C++, but for sure PHPstorm is my preferred IDE these days. Javascript, PHP, Vue and Laravel all have great integration. I understand the makers of PHPstorm have a "bigger" app that is useful for many other languages, but concentrated on Java. IntelliJ I think it is called. Not free, but well worth the cost, and getting better all the time. Emmett ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 5:45 PM bruce wrote: > Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and > why if you care to expound). emacs, in text mode (non-GUI), and without color decorations. I've been using it since the early 1980s when there really wasn't much in the way of "IDE"s. I also use it on Windows - either emacs in cygwin/msys, or MicroEMACS (caveat - I have done very little development under Windows). emacs has a bit of a learning curve, but you absolutely get out of it whatever effort you put into it; the price of power. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On Tue, 23 May 2023 19:02:05 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > There's only one true editor for developers: > > emacs > > Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. Truth! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
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Once upon a time, Sam Varshavchik said: > Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. Oh, did the emacs OS finally implement an editor? :) -- Chris Adams ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
bruce writes: Hi. Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and why if you care to expound). Are there any you prefer for linux vs windows? There's only one true editor for developers: emacs Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. pgpmN3hwMKchj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
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On 05/23/2023 04:25 PM, Roger Wells wrote: Gvim here. (Vim with a GUI) dnf install gvim If I need to edit a file in a GUI, I use mousepad, as it comes with Xfce. If I'm using a CLI, I use what I like to call "Mork's editor," nano. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
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On 5/23/23 17:44, bruce wrote: Hi. Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and why if you care to expound). Are there any you prefer for linux vs windows? just curious... thanks Gvim here. (Vim with a GUI) dnf install gvim ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: ide editor??
On 5/23/23 16:44, bruce wrote: Hi. Curious to know what IDE/editors you guys use for developing code (and why if you care to expound). Are there any you prefer for linux vs windows? just curious... I use vim, but I'm not a power programmer, just an old sysadmin who has to tinker with code every once in a while. I've used VS Code in the past, and it's nicer than I want to admit, coming from Microsoft. There is a decent article which talks about vim based editors at https://geekflare.com/best-vim-editors/, that may help you some. Eclipse has a solid reputation. There's also this article which talks about the difference between code editors and IDEs: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distros-programmers/. Thomas ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
ide editor??
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