Re: mailinglist issues
David writes: > The only mailing list emails that Gmail sends to spam, for me, are those > that come from Linux users that have their own email server(s). And all > of those come from post to Linux mailing lists. Yahoo and AOL both have similar DMARC, DKIM, SPF settings and senders from those domains should also go to spam (unless Gmail is special casing them). Although, I can't imagine there is much overlap between AOL users and those that post to linux mailing lists. -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mailinglist issues (Was: Fedora-like Linux for 1.99GB RAM?)
On 6/2/2014 3:30 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 03:28:24PM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> >> Ed Greshko writes: >>> On 06/01/14 10:14, Sudhir Khanger wrote: >>> >>> >>> Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server? >>> I am asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify >>> if this message was sent by the wsrcc.com. >>> >>> You get this warning because of this header in the email. >>> >>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; >>>spf=pass (google.com: domain of >>> users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted >>> sender) smtp.mail=users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org; >>>dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@; >>>dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=wsrcc.com >> >> Bingo. Right on the money. >> >>> I've not looked into itbut I don't think dkim/dmarc works very >>> well with mailing lists. >> >> It can. Mailman has already been changed to take ownership of the >> "From:" line pointing it to some list-owned address and injecting a >> reply-to optionally to allow unicast msgs to work too. >> >> The problem is that mailing lists forging From addresses looks the same >> to software as a spammer forging the same. No progress is going to be >> made till mailing lists stop doing that. > > I guess this explains why a lot of mailinglist posts started going to > spam on Gmail recently (including this message). This started about 2 > months ago. > The only mailing list emails that Gmail sends to spam, for me, are those that come from Linux users that have their own email server(s). And all of those come from post to Linux mailing lists. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mailinglist issues (Was: Fedora-like Linux for 1.99GB RAM?)
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 03:28:24PM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > Ed Greshko writes: > > On 06/01/14 10:14, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > > > > > > Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server? > > I am asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify > > if this message was sent by the wsrcc.com. > > > > You get this warning because of this header in the email. > > > > Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; > >spf=pass (google.com: domain of > > users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted > > sender) smtp.mail=users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org; > >dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@; > >dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=wsrcc.com > > Bingo. Right on the money. > > > I've not looked into itbut I don't think dkim/dmarc works very > > well with mailing lists. > > It can. Mailman has already been changed to take ownership of the > "From:" line pointing it to some list-owned address and injecting a > reply-to optionally to allow unicast msgs to work too. > > The problem is that mailing lists forging From addresses looks the same > to software as a spammer forging the same. No progress is going to be > made till mailing lists stop doing that. I guess this explains why a lot of mailinglist posts started going to spam on Gmail recently (including this message). This started about 2 months ago. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
mailinglist issues (Was: Fedora-like Linux for 1.99GB RAM?)
Ed Greshko writes: > On 06/01/14 10:14, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > > > Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server? > I am asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify > if this message was sent by the wsrcc.com. > > You get this warning because of this header in the email. > > Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; >spf=pass (google.com: domain of users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted sender) > smtp.mail=users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org; >dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@; >dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=wsrcc.com Bingo. Right on the money. > I've not looked into itbut I don't think dkim/dmarc works very > well with mailing lists. It can. Mailman has already been changed to take ownership of the "From:" line pointing it to some list-owned address and injecting a reply-to optionally to allow unicast msgs to work too. The problem is that mailing lists forging From addresses looks the same to software as a spammer forging the same. No progress is going to be made till mailing lists stop doing that. -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org