Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
Robert Mihaly wrote: > I'll try to ask over at Spotify as well. Is this[1] the API you > mentioned? > > [1]: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/inhibit/ I believe so, yes. -- Rex ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 12:39 -0700, stan via users wrote: > No, I meant the setting in the screensaver itself. It separates > into > three timers under 'Display Power Management': > Standby after xxx minutes > Suspend after xxx minutes > Off after xxx minutes > > But, I see now that it is Xscreensaver, and in Gnome you will be > using > Wayland. Also, it doesn't meet your requirement that it happen only > when the display is being used. So, it wouldn't meet your needs, > and, > as Rex said, you need to somehow gain that ability for your > application. Ah right, I see what you mean. My confusion came from that I don't use a separate screensaver just GDM/Gnome shell and don't have those options directly. I don't use Wayland because of NVIDIA optimus and stuff, but it might not be relevant here anyway. Yes, I agree about the application support, I reached out to Spotify about this question, but would be great if someone could point me to some API other apps like Totem use to suspend power management when something is playing. Thanks, Robert ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:40:48 +0100 Robert Mihaly wrote: > I think you mean this setting: > > $ gsettings describe org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay > The number of seconds of inactivity before the session is considered > idle. > > Yeah, I guess I could use that to disable the screen saver, but was > thinking about something that would work automatically and inhibit it > only when the music is playing through HDMI for example. No, I meant the setting in the screensaver itself. It separates into three timers under 'Display Power Management': Standby after xxx minutes Suspend after xxx minutes Off after xxx minutes But, I see now that it is Xscreensaver, and in Gnome you will be using Wayland. Also, it doesn't meet your requirement that it happen only when the display is being used. So, it wouldn't meet your needs, and, as Rex said, you need to somehow gain that ability for your application. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 08:00 -0700, stan via users wrote: > I notice in the screensaver preferences, the advanced tab, that a > timeout can be set for turning off the power to the device. Perhaps > you could use that? I haven't tried this, so don't know if it will > work. I think you mean this setting: $ gsettings describe org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay The number of seconds of inactivity before the session is considered idle. Yeah, I guess I could use that to disable the screen saver, but was thinking about something that would work automatically and inhibit it only when the music is playing through HDMI for example. I have this functionality with video players, e.g. Totem would prevent turning off the monitor when I play a video on it. I am looking for this functionality for music players and wondering if Spotify has a way to do this. - Robert ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 09:26 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > What application are you using to play audio? I am using Spotify from Flathub, couldn't find anything in the application settings. Is there perhaps another spotify client that supports the inhibit power-management functionality? Or do other music players like Rhythmbox support this? I'll try to ask over at Spotify as well. Is this[1] the API you mentioned? [1]: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/inhibit/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
Robert Mihaly wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have an external monitor connected via HDMI which has better sounding > speakers than the internal ones. Sometimes I leave the machine idle while > keep playing audio on it, but shortly after the lock screen kicks the > external monitor is turned off (power saving I guess) and the audio > switches back to the internal speakers. I use Fedora Workstation 31, Gnome > 3.34.1, PulseAudio 13.0, Kernel 5.3.11. > > Does anyone know about a way to prevent turning off the external monitor > when audio is being played through the HDMI port? Yes, there's a well-known API to inhibit power-management for media players. What application are you using to play audio? For example, I know that vlc supports the api for when video is playing, but apparently not for audio-only unfortunately. Reference: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=144664 -- Rex ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:03:45 - "Robert Mihaly" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have an external monitor connected via HDMI which has better > sounding speakers than the internal ones. Sometimes I leave the > machine idle while keep playing audio on it, but shortly after the > lock screen kicks the external monitor is turned off (power saving I > guess) and the audio switches back to the internal speakers. I use > Fedora Workstation 31, Gnome 3.34.1, PulseAudio 13.0, Kernel 5.3.11. > > Does anyone know about a way to prevent turning off the external > monitor when audio is being played through the HDMI port? I would > still like to have the lock screen, even blanking it, but without > turning it off and keep using the external monitor speakers. > Currently I use Spotify from Flathub for playing music and when I > make a break and leave the music on, after few minutes it switches > back to the internal speakers, that have worse quality especially if > I am away from the machine. I notice in the screensaver preferences, the advanced tab, that a timeout can be set for turning off the power to the device. Perhaps you could use that? I haven't tried this, so don't know if it will work. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Prevent turning off external monitor when playing audio though HDMI
Hi everyone, I have an external monitor connected via HDMI which has better sounding speakers than the internal ones. Sometimes I leave the machine idle while keep playing audio on it, but shortly after the lock screen kicks the external monitor is turned off (power saving I guess) and the audio switches back to the internal speakers. I use Fedora Workstation 31, Gnome 3.34.1, PulseAudio 13.0, Kernel 5.3.11. Does anyone know about a way to prevent turning off the external monitor when audio is being played through the HDMI port? I would still like to have the lock screen, even blanking it, but without turning it off and keep using the external monitor speakers. Currently I use Spotify from Flathub for playing music and when I make a break and leave the music on, after few minutes it switches back to the internal speakers, that have worse quality especially if I am away from the machine. I have seen this same question raised in other forums [1][2][3], but couldn't see solutions, so wanted to try to ask here in case anyone knows a way to deal with this. [1] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1165801/dpms-and-hdmi-audio [2] https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/10865 [3] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/issues/451 Thanks, Robert ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: no audio with HDMI
Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com writes: I've connected the HDMI output from a PC to an HDTV's HDMI port. The TV reports HDMI no audio. On the PC, PulseAudio Volume Control-Output Devices shows: HDA ATI HDMI Digital Stereo (HDMI) Port: HDMI/Display Port Same problem here on an Asus M3A78T with AMD chipset. In addition to no audio, the videos play at ~10x speed over HDMI. Over DVI to a computer monitor they play normal speed and audio over the analog 1/8 jacks works too. HDMI support seems kind of rough all around. -wolfgang -- g+: https://plus.google.com/114566345864337108516/about -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no audio with HDMI
On 05/10/2013 06:58 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, Need help from the audio gurus. f18, up to date. Anybody using their HDMI out for a TV? I've connected the HDMI output from a PC to an HDTV's HDMI port. The TV reports HDMI no audio. On the PC, PulseAudio Volume Control-Output Devices shows: HDA ATI HDMI Digital Stereo (HDMI) Port: HDMI/Display Port followed by check boxes for various codecs. PCM is checked but grayed-out/disabled (which is the one I think I need). Below that the Front-Left/Right volume control indicators *do* respond to the keyboard's volume keys and below that is a graphical sound indicator that matches the expected output. All of that shows that the audio is making it into the system but is not making its way out. A hunch says PCM issue, but I really haven't a clue. It would be very sweet to have this resolved. Thanks, Mike Wright Dumb question - did you select HDMI as your default audio output, or as the output for the program you are trying to play? Or did you select the option to have audio go to both devices? On my system, it defaulted to going just to the sound card. One other thing - I remember having to set up a special loopback to get an analog input to the sound card to go to the HDMI sound output, but I can not remember how I did it right now. The audio part of my monitor died, and I had to go back to a set of speakers off the sound card. (Hardware problem - it does not work with the analog input either.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
no audio with HDMI
Hi all, Need help from the audio gurus. f18, up to date. Anybody using their HDMI out for a TV? I've connected the HDMI output from a PC to an HDTV's HDMI port. The TV reports HDMI no audio. On the PC, PulseAudio Volume Control-Output Devices shows: HDA ATI HDMI Digital Stereo (HDMI) Port: HDMI/Display Port followed by check boxes for various codecs. PCM is checked but grayed-out/disabled (which is the one I think I need). Below that the Front-Left/Right volume control indicators *do* respond to the keyboard's volume keys and below that is a graphical sound indicator that matches the expected output. All of that shows that the audio is making it into the system but is not making its way out. A hunch says PCM issue, but I really haven't a clue. It would be very sweet to have this resolved. Thanks, Mike Wright -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no audio with HDMI
On Fri, 10 May 2013 16:58:03 -0700 Mike Wright wrote: HDA ATI HDMI Digital Stereo (HDMI) I think there are versions of ATI cards without working HDMI audio. Is it a very new model? I believe the support is documented somewhere on the X.org wiki. I also had HDMI just suddenly stop working on my Intel output a few weeks ago, then suddenly start back up again a few hours later. Never did figure that out. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: no audio with HDMI
05/10/2013 05:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 16:58:03 -0700 Mike Wright wrote: HDA ATI HDMI Digital Stereo (HDMI) I think there are versions of ATI cards without working HDMI audio. Is it a very new model? I believe the support is documented somewhere on the X.org wiki. I also had HDMI just suddenly stop working on my Intel output a few weeks ago, then suddenly start back up again a few hours later. Never did figure that out. Nice to hear from you Tom. My volume control popup showed up today ;) Recent hardware is Gigabyte board with onboard audio: Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4200 Series] chipset is Realtek ALC892. Do you know where I could find a flowchart or some graphical representation of how things come in and things go out and they shake it all about? alsa wiki about this was most recently updated three years ago. pulse vs jack was also 3 years ago. I know I can't be the only person wanting to understand fedora/linux sound. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org