Re: ogm video
On 31/03/2010 16:37, Michael Miles wrote: > On 03/31/2010 12:58 AM, birger wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 21:24 +1030, Tim wrote: >> >>> The latter may be a bit hard when dealing with Windows files, as that >>> platform is lagging behind in using 64-bit. >>> >>> From what I have seen, 2008 may be the last server version of windows >> with a 32-bit version of the os, so I guess app vendors should hurry up >> getting their 64-bit support done... I am not 100% certain about this, I >> once saw a matrix hinting that 32-bit apps would have to run in 32-bit >> compatibility mode in future server operating systems. >> >> If they are killing 32-bit server support now, how long until they do >> the same for desktop? Especially since 32-bit windows can't really use >> more memory than 3GB. >> >> My guess is that microsoft will drop 32-bit versions of windows very >> soon. After all, both the OS and the apps have always been memory hogs. >> That will not change. For Vista you really need more memory than the >> 32-bit version can handle. >> It gets worse with GFX cards. If you have 1GB GFX RAM you have 2GB usable system memory. If you run SLI, you have 2GB (2 x 1GB cards) GFX RAM...well...1GB addressable system memory?? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/31/2010 12:58 AM, birger wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 21:24 +1030, Tim wrote: > >> The latter may be a bit hard when dealing with Windows files, as that >> platform is lagging behind in using 64-bit. >> > > From what I have seen, 2008 may be the last server version of windows > with a 32-bit version of the os, so I guess app vendors should hurry up > getting their 64-bit support done... I am not 100% certain about this, I > once saw a matrix hinting that 32-bit apps would have to run in 32-bit > compatibility mode in future server operating systems. > > If they are killing 32-bit server support now, how long until they do > the same for desktop? Especially since 32-bit windows can't really use > more memory than 3GB. > > My guess is that microsoft will drop 32-bit versions of windows very > soon. After all, both the OS and the apps have always been memory hogs. > That will not change. For Vista you really need more memory than the > 32-bit version can handle. > > The relevant question for this list would be: Can we use 64-bit windows > codecs with our 64-bit linux apps? > > > birger > > From what I understand Win 7 is the last 32 bit os for Microsoft Thank God, but your right they have a lot of catching up to do -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 21:24 +1030, Tim wrote: > The latter may be a bit hard when dealing with Windows files, as that > platform is lagging behind in using 64-bit. >From what I have seen, 2008 may be the last server version of windows with a 32-bit version of the os, so I guess app vendors should hurry up getting their 64-bit support done... I am not 100% certain about this, I once saw a matrix hinting that 32-bit apps would have to run in 32-bit compatibility mode in future server operating systems. If they are killing 32-bit server support now, how long until they do the same for desktop? Especially since 32-bit windows can't really use more memory than 3GB. My guess is that microsoft will drop 32-bit versions of windows very soon. After all, both the OS and the apps have always been memory hogs. That will not change. For Vista you really need more memory than the 32-bit version can handle. The relevant question for this list would be: Can we use 64-bit windows codecs with our 64-bit linux apps? birger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/30/2010 01:51 PM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 08:27 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > >> The 32 bit mplayer worked like a charm >> With the vp7vfw.dll in usr/lib/codecs/ and 32 bit mplayer >> worked >> >> Weird but not complaining. >> > Yes, and no. The ogg, or ogm file is a container. We tend to expect to > find vorbis or theora data inside them, but they can contain other > formats. > > Though I'm surprised to find a Windows format inside an ogm container, > it could just be that the author needed to wrap a file in a descriptive > container, of some sort, and didn't want to transcode the data. Or, it > simply worked for them, and they never knew it might be a problem. > > I am just glad to have the puzzle solved Thanks all and many Moon Thanks to Marko for the answer to the riddle Michael -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 08:27 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > The 32 bit mplayer worked like a charm > With the vp7vfw.dll in usr/lib/codecs/ and 32 bit mplayer > worked > > Weird but not complaining. Yes, and no. The ogg, or ogm file is a container. We tend to expect to find vorbis or theora data inside them, but they can contain other formats. Though I'm surprised to find a Windows format inside an ogm container, it could just be that the author needed to wrap a file in a descriptive container, of some sort, and didn't want to transcode the data. Or, it simply worked for them, and they never knew it might be a problem. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/30/2010 03:54 AM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 01:36 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> Replying to myself, the mplayer ./configure script says this; >> >> >>> NOTE: Win32 codec DLLs are not supported on your CPU (x86_64) or your >>> operating system (Linux). You may encounter a few files that cannot >>> be played due to missing open source video/audio codec support. >>> >> >> I guess that settles it. :( >> > It's not, generally, possible to use 32-bit thingies to augment a 64-bit > doodah, unless there's a supported method of interfacing them (e.g. > wrappers for plugins). > > 64-bit computing is a different technique, it's not merely wider data. > So your choices are: Go all 32-bit with the application, which is > possible, while still in a 64-bit OS; and it may even be possible to > install both 32- and 64-bit versions of a particular application. Or, > go *all* 64-bit; use the 64-bit version, find 64-bit plugins for it. > > The latter may be a bit hard when dealing with Windows files, as that > platform is lagging behind in using 64-bit. Though, that shouldn't be > an issue with OGM, as that's hardly a Windows thing. > > I wonder if you've tried using totem to play it? > > I have tried Totem and it did not work. OGM vp7 is NOT SUPPORTED with linux at all so the only way is using 32 bit windows lib and using a 32 bit mplayer Very weird but worked first time -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/30/2010 01:36 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 10:14 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> This raises a question, is it possible to use the 32-bit binary codecs >> if mplayer was compiled with the proper `./configure' options or >> expecting something like that is completely unreasonable? If this is >> possible a bugzilla with rpmfusion would do the trick. ;) >> >> > Replying to myself, the mplayer ./configure script says this; > > >> NOTE: Win32 codec DLLs are not supported on your CPU (x86_64) or your >> operating system (Linux). You may encounter a few files that cannot >> be played due to missing open source video/audio codec support. >> > I guess that settles it. :( > > As I said 32 bit mplayer worked flawlessly I can play and convert with mplayer and MEncoder Thank you all but especially Marko with the solution -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/29/2010 10:14 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 02:14 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> On Monday 29 March 2010 21:11:21 Suvayu Ali wrote: >> >>> On Monday 29 March 2010 12:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> Third, it seems that you are running 64bit arch, which might present itself as a tad little problem, since the .dll file is 32bit and will not work in your environment. What you need to do is to >>> I think this is unnecesary. to run 32 bit codecs on a 64 bit machine >>> putiing them in /usr/lib/codecs should be enough. Similarly the 64 bit >>> codecs go into /usr/lib64/codecs >>> >>> $ ls /usr/lib/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' 82 $ ls /usr/lib64/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' 3 >> Well, as you can see, the list of codecs in the two directories is hardly >> equivalent. AFAIK, in general 32bit plugins don't usually interoperate well >> with 64bit apps (think firefox, nspluginwrapper, flash-plugin, etc.). As for >> mplayer, I remember that this didn't work before and was generally considered >> unfixable, so I guess today is still the same. >> >> But theory aside, I did an experiment --- downloaded one of the sample files >> from http://www.on2.com/index.php?617 , played no problem using mplayer.i686, >> while getting exactly the same error as the OP using mplayer.x86_64. In both >> cases all relevant codec files are in both /usr/lib/codecs/ and >> /usr/lib64/codecs/. >> >> I would really like to know about your setup if you are able to play any of >> those files using 64bmplayer -codecs-fileit mplayer. >> >> > You were right, I could only get audio even with `mplayer -codecs-file > /path/to/codec'. I tried the codec from my windows install with the same > result. However I think even the windows codec was 32-bit as the path > was %SYSTEM%/SysWOW64/vp7vfw.dll. > > This raises a question, is it possible to use the 32-bit binary codecs > if mplayer was compiled with the proper `./configure' options or > expecting something like that is completely unreasonable? If this is > possible a bugzilla with rpmfusion would do the trick. ;) > > >> Best, :-) >> Marko >> >> > The 32 bit mplayer worked like a charm With the vp7vfw.dll in usr/lib/codecs/ and 32 bit mplayer worked Weird but not complaining. 32 bit on a 64 bit machine Michael Miles -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 30 March 2010 03:54, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 01:36 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> Replying to myself, the mplayer ./configure script says this; >> >>> NOTE: Win32 codec DLLs are not supported on your CPU (x86_64) or your >>> operating system (Linux). You may encounter a few files that cannot >>> be played due to missing open source video/audio codec support. >> >> I guess that settles it. :( > > It's not, generally, possible to use 32-bit thingies to augment a 64-bit > doodah, unless there's a supported method of interfacing them (e.g. > wrappers for plugins). > > 64-bit computing is a different technique, it's not merely wider data. > So your choices are: Go all 32-bit with the application, which is > possible, while still in a 64-bit OS; and it may even be possible to > install both 32- and 64-bit versions of a particular application. Or, > go *all* 64-bit; use the 64-bit version, find 64-bit plugins for it. > > The latter may be a bit hard when dealing with Windows files, as that > platform is lagging behind in using 64-bit. Though, that shouldn't be > an issue with OGM, as that's hardly a Windows thing. > > I wonder if you've tried using totem to play it? > I hadn't tried totem even though its my favourite player! But its still the same, no video just audio. :( > -- > [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 01:36 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Replying to myself, the mplayer ./configure script says this; > >> NOTE: Win32 codec DLLs are not supported on your CPU (x86_64) or your >> operating system (Linux). You may encounter a few files that cannot >> be played due to missing open source video/audio codec support. > > I guess that settles it. :( It's not, generally, possible to use 32-bit thingies to augment a 64-bit doodah, unless there's a supported method of interfacing them (e.g. wrappers for plugins). 64-bit computing is a different technique, it's not merely wider data. So your choices are: Go all 32-bit with the application, which is possible, while still in a 64-bit OS; and it may even be possible to install both 32- and 64-bit versions of a particular application. Or, go *all* 64-bit; use the 64-bit version, find 64-bit plugins for it. The latter may be a bit hard when dealing with Windows files, as that platform is lagging behind in using 64-bit. Though, that shouldn't be an issue with OGM, as that's hardly a Windows thing. I wonder if you've tried using totem to play it? -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
> Michael Miles : > ogm is ogg video Theora No. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 34 29 155 34 / +261 33 11 207 36 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Monday 29 March 2010 10:14 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > This raises a question, is it possible to use the 32-bit binary codecs > if mplayer was compiled with the proper `./configure' options or > expecting something like that is completely unreasonable? If this is > possible a bugzilla with rpmfusion would do the trick. ;) > Replying to myself, the mplayer ./configure script says this; > NOTE: Win32 codec DLLs are not supported on your CPU (x86_64) or your > operating system (Linux). You may encounter a few files that cannot > be played due to missing open source video/audio codec support. I guess that settles it. :( -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Monday 29 March 2010 02:14 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 21:11:21 Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Monday 29 March 2010 12:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> Third, it seems that you are running 64bit arch, which might present >>> itself as a tad little problem, since the .dll file is 32bit and will >>> not work in your environment. What you need to do is to >> >> I think this is unnecesary. to run 32 bit codecs on a 64 bit machine >> putiing them in /usr/lib/codecs should be enough. Similarly the 64 bit >> codecs go into /usr/lib64/codecs >> >>> $ ls /usr/lib/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' >>> 82 >>> $ ls /usr/lib64/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' >>> 3 > > Well, as you can see, the list of codecs in the two directories is hardly > equivalent. AFAIK, in general 32bit plugins don't usually interoperate well > with 64bit apps (think firefox, nspluginwrapper, flash-plugin, etc.). As for > mplayer, I remember that this didn't work before and was generally considered > unfixable, so I guess today is still the same. > > But theory aside, I did an experiment --- downloaded one of the sample files > from http://www.on2.com/index.php?617 , played no problem using mplayer.i686, > while getting exactly the same error as the OP using mplayer.x86_64. In both > cases all relevant codec files are in both /usr/lib/codecs/ and > /usr/lib64/codecs/. > > I would really like to know about your setup if you are able to play any of > those files using 64bmplayer -codecs-fileit mplayer. > You were right, I could only get audio even with `mplayer -codecs-file /path/to/codec'. I tried the codec from my windows install with the same result. However I think even the windows codec was 32-bit as the path was %SYSTEM%/SysWOW64/vp7vfw.dll. This raises a question, is it possible to use the 32-bit binary codecs if mplayer was compiled with the proper `./configure' options or expecting something like that is completely unreasonable? If this is possible a bugzilla with rpmfusion would do the trick. ;) > Best, :-) > Marko > -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/29/2010 12:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 29 March 2010 16:43:56 Michael Miles wrote:
>
>> On 03/29/2010 04:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>
>>> mplayer -v
>>>
>> [r...@localhost FAILSAFE]# mplayer -v Limite\ de\ Segurança.ogm
>> MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
>>
> [snip]
>
>> Playing Limite de Segurança.ogm.
>> get_path('sub/') -> '/root/.mplayer/sub/'
>> [file] File size is 723460010 bytes
>> STREAM: [file] Limite de Segurança.ogm
>> STREAM: Description: File
>> STREAM: Author: Albeu
>> STREAM: Comment: based on the code from ??? (probably Arpi)
>> LAVF_check: Ogg
>> Checking for YUV4MPEG2
>> ASF_check: not ASF guid!
>> Checking for REAL
>> Checking for SMJPEG
>> ==> Found video stream: 0
>> [Ogg] stream 0: video (FOURCC VP70), -vid 0
>> === VIDEO Format ==
>> biSize 40
>> biWidth 624
>> biHeight 336
>> biPlanes 1
>> biBitCount 12
>> biCompression 808931414='VP70'
>> biSizeImage 209664
>> ===
>>
> This is the video format detected --- VP7. You can read more about it on
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP7
>
>
>> ==> Found audio stream: 1
>> [Ogg] stream 1: audio (Vorbis), -aid 0
>>
> [snip]
>
>> Ogg file format detected.
>> VIDEO: [VP70] 624x336 12bpp 23.976 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
>> [V] filefmt:18 fourcc:0x30375056 size:624x336 fps:23.976 ftime:=0.0417
>>
> [snip]
>
>> X11 opening display: :0.0
>> vo: X11 color mask: FF (R:FF G:FF00 B:FF)
>> vo: X11 running at 2304x1024 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local
>> display)
>> [x11] Detected wm supports NetWM.
>> [x11] Detected wm supports FULLSCREEN state.
>> [x11] Detected wm supports ABOVE state.
>> [x11] Detected wm supports BELOW state.
>> [x11] Current fstype setting honours FULLSCREEN ABOVE BELOW X atoms
>> ==
>> Requested video codec family [vp7] (vfm=vfwex) not available.
>> Enable it at compilation.
>> Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x30375056.
>> ==
>>
> It appears you don't have the codec installed.
>
> [snip]
>
>> Video: no video
>> Freeing 58 unused video chunks.
>> Starting playback...
>>
> [snip]
>
>> Exiting... (End of file)
>>
> Ok. This is how it goes.
>
> First of all, I really don't recommend running anything (including mplayer) as
> root. You have been warned! That said, maybe mplayer *does* have the required
> codec installed, but not in root's path, for security reasons. So you might
> want to try it out as a regular user.
>
> Second, mplayer seems to know about this type of video, and what codec is
> required:
>
> [vma...@yoda ~]$ mplayer -vc help | grep vp7
> vp7 vfwex working On2 VP7 Personal Codec [vp7vfw.dll]
>
> So what you need is to find the file vp7vfw.dll somewhere, and put it
> somewhere
> where mplayer can find it, like in /usr/lib/codecs or /usr/lib64/codecs
> (depending on your arch). You can download the codec .exe installer for
> Windows directly from On2 website:
>
> http://www.on2.com/index.php?617
>
> // Side note: on this page you can find sample vp7 files to try out, which are
> of reasonable size. //
>
> After you have downloaded it, you need to unpack it somehow, typically running
> it under Windows (or under wine, you'll find the vp7vfw.dll inside
> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/ directory after installation of the .exe
> package). But since your Windows already plays the file without problems, my
> bet is that the vp7vfw.dll is already there somewhere, do a search on in under
> Windows system files, and you'll probably find it. Copy it over to Fedora and
> put it into the above codec directories.
>
> Third, it seems that you are running 64bit arch, which might present itself as
> a tad little problem, since the .dll file is 32bit and will not work in your
> environment. What you need to do is to
>
> (1) do a "yum remove mplayer"
> (2) download the 32bit version from here:
>
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/12/Everything/i386/os/mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.i686.rpm
>
> (3) do a "yum localinstall mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.i686.rpm"
> (4) make sure that the vp7vfw.dll file is in /usr/lib/codecs directory
> (5) play the movie
>
> Of course, installing 32bit mplayer on 64bit machine might be something you
> don't want to do, but AFAIK there is no way to make mplayer (or any player)
> use the 32bit windows binary codecs if it was compiled for 64bit arch.
>
> I hope that covers it. Works on my machine at least (32bit mplayer on 64bit
> F12/KDE). ;-)
>
> Best, :-)
> Marko
>
> P.S. Please keep the users@lists.fedoraproject.org in the To: field of your
> replies, so others can see them also.
>
>
you are a champ
worked like a charm
mplayer 32 bit was it
Thanks a bunch man
--
Re: ogm video
On Monday 29 March 2010 02:14 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 21:11:21 Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Monday 29 March 2010 12:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> Third, it seems that you are running 64bit arch, which might present >>> itself as a tad little problem, since the .dll file is 32bit and will >>> not work in your environment. What you need to do is to >> >> I think this is unnecesary. to run 32 bit codecs on a 64 bit machine >> putiing them in /usr/lib/codecs should be enough. Similarly the 64 bit >> codecs go into /usr/lib64/codecs >> >>> $ ls /usr/lib/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' >>> 82 >>> $ ls /usr/lib64/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' >>> 3 > > Well, as you can see, the list of codecs in the two directories is hardly > equivalent. AFAIK, in general 32bit plugins don't usually interoperate well > with 64bit apps (think firefox, nspluginwrapper, flash-plugin, etc.). As for > mplayer, I remember that this didn't work before and was generally considered > unfixable, so I guess today is still the same. > > But theory aside, I did an experiment --- downloaded one of the sample files > from http://www.on2.com/index.php?617 , played no problem using mplayer.i686, > while getting exactly the same error as the OP using mplayer.x86_64. In both > cases all relevant codec files are in both /usr/lib/codecs/ and > /usr/lib64/codecs/. > > I would really like to know about your setup if you are able to play any of > those files using 64bit mplayer. > Right now I only have console access to my home machine. I 'll experiment when I'm back home this evening and report back. > Best, :-) > Marko > :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Monday 29 March 2010 21:11:21 Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 12:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Third, it seems that you are running 64bit arch, which might present > > itself as a tad little problem, since the .dll file is 32bit and will > > not work in your environment. What you need to do is to > > I think this is unnecesary. to run 32 bit codecs on a 64 bit machine > putiing them in /usr/lib/codecs should be enough. Similarly the 64 bit > codecs go into /usr/lib64/codecs > > > $ ls /usr/lib/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' > > 82 > > $ ls /usr/lib64/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' > > 3 Well, as you can see, the list of codecs in the two directories is hardly equivalent. AFAIK, in general 32bit plugins don't usually interoperate well with 64bit apps (think firefox, nspluginwrapper, flash-plugin, etc.). As for mplayer, I remember that this didn't work before and was generally considered unfixable, so I guess today is still the same. But theory aside, I did an experiment --- downloaded one of the sample files from http://www.on2.com/index.php?617 , played no problem using mplayer.i686, while getting exactly the same error as the OP using mplayer.x86_64. In both cases all relevant codec files are in both /usr/lib/codecs/ and /usr/lib64/codecs/. I would really like to know about your setup if you are able to play any of those files using 64bit mplayer. Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
Hi Marko, A small correction. ;) On Monday 29 March 2010 12:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Third, it seems that you are running 64bit arch, which might present itself as > a tad little problem, since the .dll file is 32bit and will not work in your > environment. What you need to do is to > I think this is unnecesary. to run 32 bit codecs on a 64 bit machine putiing them in /usr/lib/codecs should be enough. Similarly the 64 bit codecs go into /usr/lib64/codecs > $ ls /usr/lib/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' > 82 > $ ls /usr/lib64/codecs/ |grep -cE 'dll|so' > 3 I can't play and test right now as I am at my university, but I have played many proprietary formats before without any problems. (I had a problem only once with one particular wmv file) > > Best, :-) > Marko > > P.S. Please keep the users@lists.fedoraproject.org in the To: field of your > replies, so others can see them also. > I think this is because sometimes in your replies you cc the sender of the message you are replying to. I think the OP has been inadvertently replying by just "Reply" rather than "Reply All" or "Reply to list". ;) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Monday 29 March 2010 16:43:56 Michael Miles wrote:
> On 03/29/2010 04:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > mplayer -v
>
> [r...@localhost FAILSAFE]# mplayer -v Limite\ de\ Segurança.ogm
> MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
[snip]
> Playing Limite de Segurança.ogm.
> get_path('sub/') -> '/root/.mplayer/sub/'
> [file] File size is 723460010 bytes
> STREAM: [file] Limite de Segurança.ogm
> STREAM: Description: File
> STREAM: Author: Albeu
> STREAM: Comment: based on the code from ??? (probably Arpi)
> LAVF_check: Ogg
> Checking for YUV4MPEG2
> ASF_check: not ASF guid!
> Checking for REAL
> Checking for SMJPEG
> ==> Found video stream: 0
> [Ogg] stream 0: video (FOURCC VP70), -vid 0
> === VIDEO Format ==
>biSize 40
>biWidth 624
>biHeight 336
>biPlanes 1
>biBitCount 12
>biCompression 808931414='VP70'
>biSizeImage 209664
> ===
This is the video format detected --- VP7. You can read more about it on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP7
> ==> Found audio stream: 1
> [Ogg] stream 1: audio (Vorbis), -aid 0
[snip]
> Ogg file format detected.
> VIDEO: [VP70] 624x336 12bpp 23.976 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
> [V] filefmt:18 fourcc:0x30375056 size:624x336 fps:23.976 ftime:=0.0417
[snip]
> X11 opening display: :0.0
> vo: X11 color mask: FF (R:FF G:FF00 B:FF)
> vo: X11 running at 2304x1024 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local
> display)
> [x11] Detected wm supports NetWM.
> [x11] Detected wm supports FULLSCREEN state.
> [x11] Detected wm supports ABOVE state.
> [x11] Detected wm supports BELOW state.
> [x11] Current fstype setting honours FULLSCREEN ABOVE BELOW X atoms
> ==
> Requested video codec family [vp7] (vfm=vfwex) not available.
> Enable it at compilation.
> Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x30375056.
> ==
It appears you don't have the codec installed.
[snip]
> Video: no video
> Freeing 58 unused video chunks.
> Starting playback...
[snip]
> Exiting... (End of file)
Ok. This is how it goes.
First of all, I really don't recommend running anything (including mplayer) as
root. You have been warned! That said, maybe mplayer *does* have the required
codec installed, but not in root's path, for security reasons. So you might
want to try it out as a regular user.
Second, mplayer seems to know about this type of video, and what codec is
required:
[vma...@yoda ~]$ mplayer -vc help | grep vp7
vp7 vfwex working On2 VP7 Personal Codec [vp7vfw.dll]
So what you need is to find the file vp7vfw.dll somewhere, and put it somewhere
where mplayer can find it, like in /usr/lib/codecs or /usr/lib64/codecs
(depending on your arch). You can download the codec .exe installer for
Windows directly from On2 website:
http://www.on2.com/index.php?617
// Side note: on this page you can find sample vp7 files to try out, which are
of reasonable size. //
After you have downloaded it, you need to unpack it somehow, typically running
it under Windows (or under wine, you'll find the vp7vfw.dll inside
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/ directory after installation of the .exe
package). But since your Windows already plays the file without problems, my
bet is that the vp7vfw.dll is already there somewhere, do a search on in under
Windows system files, and you'll probably find it. Copy it over to Fedora and
put it into the above codec directories.
Third, it seems that you are running 64bit arch, which might present itself as
a tad little problem, since the .dll file is 32bit and will not work in your
environment. What you need to do is to
(1) do a "yum remove mplayer"
(2) download the 32bit version from here:
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/12/Everything/i386/os/mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.i686.rpm
(3) do a "yum localinstall mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.i686.rpm"
(4) make sure that the vp7vfw.dll file is in /usr/lib/codecs directory
(5) play the movie
Of course, installing 32bit mplayer on 64bit machine might be something you
don't want to do, but AFAIK there is no way to make mplayer (or any player)
use the 32bit windows binary codecs if it was compiled for 64bit arch.
I hope that covers it. Works on my machine at least (32bit mplayer on 64bit
F12/KDE). ;-)
Best, :-)
Marko
P.S. Please keep the users@lists.fedoraproject.org in the To: field of your
replies, so others can see them also.
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Re: ogm video
On 03/29/2010 09:05 AM, Pete Travis wrote: > No solution, but a few suggestions: > > Look over fedorasolved.org , I seem to recall a lot of video oriented pages. > They are likely to involve livna and rpmfusion repos; good idea to enable > both and 'yum search ogm' or 'yum search ogg' again. > > 'Yum install vlc' is a default for me- it installs a lot of codecs as > dependencies. A lot of useful features as a frontend, too. > > If you need to transcode, I highly reccomend 'handbrake' . It provides a > thoroughly featured and easy to use front end, and was the best solution I > found that utilized SMP. > > Pete > -Original Message----- > From: Marko Vojinovic > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:17:34 > To: > Subject: Re: ogm video > > On Monday 29 March 2010 03:14:16 Michael Miles wrote: > >> On 03/28/2010 06:29 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 28 March 2010 23:50:18 Michael Miles wrote: >>> >>>> On 03/28/2010 03:06 PM, Tim wrote: >>>> >>>> Limite de Segurança.ogm >>>> >>>> unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent >>>> http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html >>>> >>> [snip] >>> >>> >>>> I have installed every codec under the sun but no joy there >>>> >>>> I opened a virtual windows os and intalled klite codec pack >>>> xillisoft converted it no problem >>>> >>>> on the linux side no way >>>> >>> What does mplayer say when you try to play it? If it doesn't play, >>> mplayer should provide a reason. It usually spits out a whole slew of >>> info messages, and among those there are usually good indications what >>> is wrong. >>> >> It comes out with video/x-ogm-unknown-decoder >> > > Can you please copy-paste the whole mplayer output? Maybe even adding the -v > option to increase verbosity level a bit? Oh, of course, don't use a GUI. Open > a terminal, type > > mplayer -v filenameofthemovie > > and post the output. > > I am curious about this also, but it appears that the torrent you provided is > dead --- I see only two seeders with combined output of 835 B/s (!!!), and the > estimated time of download is 36 days 14 hours, which is of course ridiculous > for any testing purposes. > > HTH, :-) > Marko > > Well, I think I have solved the problem Win32 codec pack was installed but because I am running a 64 bit system it will not play Too bad so sad Thanks for the help This is one puzzle I feel will not get solved Michael -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
No solution, but a few suggestions: Look over fedorasolved.org , I seem to recall a lot of video oriented pages. They are likely to involve livna and rpmfusion repos; good idea to enable both and 'yum search ogm' or 'yum search ogg' again. 'Yum install vlc' is a default for me- it installs a lot of codecs as dependencies. A lot of useful features as a frontend, too. If you need to transcode, I highly reccomend 'handbrake' . It provides a thoroughly featured and easy to use front end, and was the best solution I found that utilized SMP. Pete -Original Message- From: Marko Vojinovic Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:17:34 To: Subject: Re: ogm video On Monday 29 March 2010 03:14:16 Michael Miles wrote: > On 03/28/2010 06:29 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Sunday 28 March 2010 23:50:18 Michael Miles wrote: > >> On 03/28/2010 03:06 PM, Tim wrote: > >> > >> Limite de Segurança.ogm > >> > >> unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent > >> http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html > > > > [snip] > > > >> I have installed every codec under the sun but no joy there > >> > >> I opened a virtual windows os and intalled klite codec pack > >> xillisoft converted it no problem > >> > >> on the linux side no way > > > > What does mplayer say when you try to play it? If it doesn't play, > > mplayer should provide a reason. It usually spits out a whole slew of > > info messages, and among those there are usually good indications what > > is wrong. > > It comes out with video/x-ogm-unknown-decoder Can you please copy-paste the whole mplayer output? Maybe even adding the -v option to increase verbosity level a bit? Oh, of course, don't use a GUI. Open a terminal, type mplayer -v filenameofthemovie and post the output. I am curious about this also, but it appears that the torrent you provided is dead --- I see only two seeders with combined output of 835 B/s (!!!), and the estimated time of download is 36 days 14 hours, which is of course ridiculous for any testing purposes. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Monday 29 March 2010 03:14:16 Michael Miles wrote: > On 03/28/2010 06:29 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Sunday 28 March 2010 23:50:18 Michael Miles wrote: > >> On 03/28/2010 03:06 PM, Tim wrote: > >> > >> Limite de Segurança.ogm > >> > >> unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent > >> http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html > > > > [snip] > > > >> I have installed every codec under the sun but no joy there > >> > >> I opened a virtual windows os and intalled klite codec pack > >> xillisoft converted it no problem > >> > >> on the linux side no way > > > > What does mplayer say when you try to play it? If it doesn't play, > > mplayer should provide a reason. It usually spits out a whole slew of > > info messages, and among those there are usually good indications what > > is wrong. > > It comes out with video/x-ogm-unknown-decoder Can you please copy-paste the whole mplayer output? Maybe even adding the -v option to increase verbosity level a bit? Oh, of course, don't use a GUI. Open a terminal, type mplayer -v filenameofthemovie and post the output. I am curious about this also, but it appears that the torrent you provided is dead --- I see only two seeders with combined output of 835 B/s (!!!), and the estimated time of download is 36 days 14 hours, which is of course ridiculous for any testing purposes. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On Sunday 28 March 2010 23:50:18 Michael Miles wrote: > On 03/28/2010 03:06 PM, Tim wrote: > > Limite de Segurança.ogm > > unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent > http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html [snip] > I have installed every codec under the sun but no joy there > > I opened a virtual windows os and intalled klite codec pack > xillisoft converted it no problem > > on the linux side no way What does mplayer say when you try to play it? If it doesn't play, mplayer should provide a reason. It usually spits out a whole slew of info messages, and among those there are usually good indications what is wrong. On a side note, this is a movie, right? I doubt that is the only copy of that movie available on the torrent --- why don't you simply download some other copy which has better encoding? HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
Tim: >> Can you supply a sample OGM video (a weblink to one)? I don't recall >> having problems playing them in the past, but I can't find one at the >> moment. Michael Miles: > Limite de Segurança.ogm > > unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent > http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html > > > try it Anything that's not about 700 megs big? Sorry, but I'm not going to waste that much bandwidth for a test. Or somebody else with a link to a small file that works for them for Michael to try playing? There used to be some rather dumb looking Fedora videos somewhere (I seem to recall the title "truth happens"), that played okay. Not that I can find them now. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/28/2010 03:58 PM, Rick Sewill wrote: > On 03/28/2010 05:50 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > >> On 03/28/2010 03:06 PM, Tim wrote: >> >>> Can you supply a sample OGM video (a weblink to one)? I don't recall >>> having problems playing them in the past, but I can't find one at the >>> moment. >>> >>> >>> >> Limite de Segurança.ogm >> >> unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent >> http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html >> >> >> try it >> >> I do believe it is an older file >> >> Good quality but it is only a codec that is stopping it >> >> ogmdemux splits it and ogmjoin reassembles >> >> I have changed the format to avi and changed fourcc to xvid but the >> players still wont work >> sound is there but no video >> >> I have installed every codec under the sun but no joy there >> >> I opened a virtual windows os and intalled klite codec pack >> xillisoft converted it no problem >> >> on the linux side no way >> >> Michael Miles >> >> > It may not help, but I am curious. > > When you split it, you get a number of files. > If you do the command, > file > what does the file command tell you? > > I am hoping the file command can identify the video file type. > > after the split thee are two files one audio one video the audio will play the video will not I am firmly believing that the program goes through the motions but does not have a decoder so what the end product is a avi with a audio stream but no video very curious to find codec decoder encoder -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/28/2010 03:06 PM, Tim wrote: > Can you supply a sample OGM video (a weblink to one)? I don't recall > having problems playing them in the past, but I can't find one at the > moment. > > Limite de Segurança.ogm unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html try it I do believe it is an older file Good quality but it is only a codec that is stopping it ogmdemux splits it and ogmjoin reassembles I have changed the format to avi and changed fourcc to xvid but the players still wont work sound is there but no video I have installed every codec under the sun but no joy there I opened a virtual windows os and intalled klite codec pack xillisoft converted it no problem on the linux side no way Michael Miles -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/28/2010 05:50 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > On 03/28/2010 03:06 PM, Tim wrote: >> Can you supply a sample OGM video (a weblink to one)? I don't recall >> having problems playing them in the past, but I can't find one at the >> moment. >> >> > Limite de Segurança.ogm > > unfortunately this has to be downloaded with torrent > http://www.kickasstorrents.com/t524772.html > > > try it > > I do believe it is an older file > > Good quality but it is only a codec that is stopping it > > ogmdemux splits it and ogmjoin reassembles > > I have changed the format to avi and changed fourcc to xvid but the > players still wont work > sound is there but no video > > I have installed every codec under the sun but no joy there > > I opened a virtual windows os and intalled klite codec pack > xillisoft converted it no problem > > on the linux side no way > > Michael Miles > It may not help, but I am curious. When you split it, you get a number of files. If you do the command, file what does the file command tell you? I am hoping the file command can identify the video file type. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
Can you supply a sample OGM video (a weblink to one)? I don't recall having problems playing them in the past, but I can't find one at the moment. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/28/2010 02:06 PM, Rick Sewill wrote: > On 03/28/2010 03:46 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me how to get codec for ogm video files >> >> Vlc no >> mplayer no >> smplayer no >> xine no >> >> >> I have tried to convert >> I used all I could find >> >> >> All say no codec >> >> >> I can't seem to find codec >> > Not heard of ogm before. > > yum search ogm > gave a number of choices, including ogmtools. > > yum install ogmtools > > followed by > man ogmdemux > seems to imply ogmdemux can extract streams from an OGM. > > Please read the notes part of the man page...it says, > "What not works: > > * Headers created by older OggDS (DirectShow) filter versions are > not supported (and probably never will be). > " > > First see if > ogminfo > gives any useful information to see if these tools work on the file. > > Perhaps you can extract the streams and play them separately? > > Not sure if this will help or not. > > been through the whole speil It looks like I will have to convert on a windows machine (dread) Every file has been no problem except ogm with fedora 12 ogm is ogg video Theora It's old but the only flavor my favorite movie is in "Failsafe" Limite de Serguranca.ogm Kills me as this was created on a linux box years ago They will extract to video and audio files Audio plays but no go on video Back to windows on this one $%^#&**^^&** that's how I feel about windows -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ogm video
On 03/28/2010 03:46 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to get codec for ogm video files > > Vlc no > mplayer no > smplayer no > xine no > > > I have tried to convert > I used all I could find > > > All say no codec > > > I can't seem to find codec Not heard of ogm before. yum search ogm gave a number of choices, including ogmtools. yum install ogmtools followed by man ogmdemux seems to imply ogmdemux can extract streams from an OGM. Please read the notes part of the man page...it says, "What not works: * Headers created by older OggDS (DirectShow) filter versions are not supported (and probably never will be). " First see if ogminfo gives any useful information to see if these tools work on the file. Perhaps you can extract the streams and play them separately? Not sure if this will help or not. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
ogm video
Can anyone tell me how to get codec for ogm video files Vlc no mplayer no smplayer no xine no I have tried to convert I used all I could find All say no codec I can't seem to find codec -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
