Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card - confirmed its a (kernel?) bug

2010-10-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/19/2010 01:18 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 21:08 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
>>

>>
>>  The machine has 3 intel nic's -
>>
>>   lspci | egrep -i ethernet
>> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet
>> Controller (rev 01)
>> 05:04.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
>> Controller (rev 05)
>> 05:05.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
>> Controller (rev 05)
>>

..

>>  Both nic's come up in 100 Mb/s - I rebooted the switch, and I plugged
>> and unplugged the cables, I tried ethtool -r ethx a few times to no avail.
>>
>>  Other machines on same switch are happily running at full gigabit speeds.
>>
>>  Nothing in logs suggests a problem
>>
>>  Is there a problem with multi nics of same brand where they need to run
>> at diff speeds ? Or is this a quirk with some hardware somewhere ? Or ???
>>
>>
> 
> Unlikely.
> We use Intel NIC's (both 1GbE and 10GbE) extensively (up to  16 linkes
> per machine) for link monitoring without issues.
> 

  I have confirmed that when the 2 intel 8254 NIC's are in play - they
both run at 100 - when i switch out one of the and instead use one 8254
and the other 8257 (also intel) then indeed the one connected to the Gb
switch runs at 1 Gb and the other remains at 100.

 So this conforms a bug - there is a problem with 2 identical NICs both
running at 100 instead of 1 at a Gb (for hardware described above anyway)

  Now this is an older kernel (2.6.27) so it may have been fixed since
then - anyone know ?

 gene/

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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-19 Thread Genes MailLists


On 09/18/2010 09:44 PM, JD wrote:

> > Are there any bios hooks in your mobo?
 dont think so ...

> > Did you try all theports of the switch?
  Not yet no - excellent suggestion tho ... I have to proceed with care
as the network is in production. I will definitely test this.


> >
> > How about getting a cat6 null modem cable
> > and plug it's ends into both  of your GigE ports.
> > and the see if the port that is currently operating
> > in GigE mode drops down to 100M.
  Both cards are running at 100 but good idea


> > Has it ever operated at GigE speeds in combination
> > with the switch?
> >
  While the cards were unused (bought a few years ago and in the parts
department :-) ... the switch is not. So this firewall had not had Gb
the cards before .. tho it does have that one on board NIC i could try
as well.

 thanks for ideas

 (reply to yours seems to go to gmail instead of list ... sometimes)
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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/19/2010 03:34 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> A couple of users have reported problems with that specific model NIC 
> which were caused by bad capacitors in the switch.  You might look at 
> replacing that or opening it up to see if you can spot any bad caps:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/309211

 Interesting thread indeed ... very similar to what I'm seeing .. soem
of the bad caps seemed to be not associated with a specific port,
suggesting power supply levels on board perhaps ...

 Thanks for the tip!

g
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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/19/2010 01:34 AM, David Timms wrote:

> Does all your cables have 2 pairs of wires or 4 pairs of wires, and are
> they properly pinned out ?

  The cat 5e's were punched by my networking electrician and checked
with a (fairly expensive) network tester. The cat 6's were purchased
(550 Mhz) premade cables ... they all have 4 pairs ..

   I've havent seen 2 pairs of wires .. mmm at least since pre cat 3
days ... :-)


  Agreed dodgy cables can be an issue ... for good measure I had flipped
a few cables ... same result.

 Thanks
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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/19/2010 01:18 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote:

> Unlikely.
> We use Intel NIC's (both 1GbE and 10GbE) extensively (up to  16 linkes
> per machine) for link monitoring without issues.

  Great to know thanks ..


> 
> Try connecting the two links to each other.
> Set their respective IP's to 1.1.1.1/255.255.255.0 (eth1) and
> 2.2.2.2/255.255.255.0 (eth2).
> Now, check that they both auto negotiate to 1GbE/Full duplex.
> If they don't, you have a wire issue. (Is it CAT 5 or above?)
> If they do, do the following:
> 
> 1. Install iptraf. ($ yum install iptraf -y)
> 2. Launch iptrag and configure it to work in promiscuous mode (Configure
> -> Force promiscuous mode).
> 3. Go back, select the "general interface statistics".
> 4. From another console, start flood pinging.
> ping -s 1400 -f -i eth2 -b 1.1.1.255
> 5. Return to the iptraf console, you should the see the packet increase
> linearly on both interfaces. If it doesn't, something is broken, if it
> does - you have a switch problem.
> 

  Great idea ... I will try this when I'm able ..
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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-19 Thread Gordon Messmer
A couple of users have reported problems with that specific model NIC 
which were caused by bad capacitors in the switch.  You might look at 
replacing that or opening it up to see if you can spot any bad caps:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/309211
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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-18 Thread David Timms
On 19/09/10 15:18, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> If they don't, you have a wire issue. (Is it CAT 5 or above?)
Does all your cables have 2 pairs of wires or 4 pairs of wires, and are
they properly pinned out ?

Even in purchased cables, I have seen such faults (especially cheap/no
name) cables, where the pins for 100Mb are correctly pinned out, but the
other 4x wires are not.

Are they hand terminated, did the pins crimp down properly etc ?
It's not uncommon to have faulty raw plugs, or crimp tools (eg that scar
the edges of the plastic channels - making the copper fingers be unable
to make contact).
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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 21:08 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
> 
>  Anyone got any suggestions for this.
> 
>  I have a linksys sr2024 Gb switch
> 
>  Several things are plugged into this - all using cat 5e or cat 6 cables.
> 
> 
>  Some things are connecting with full Gb speed but the main firewall wont.
> 
>  The machine has 3 intel nic's -
> 
>   lspci | egrep -i ethernet
> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet
> Controller (rev 01)
> 05:04.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
> Controller (rev 05)
> 05:05.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
> Controller (rev 05)
> 
>  The 82573 is on board and not used - the other 2 nic's are used - one
> for internal subnet and one for external.
> 
>  The internet side is connected to a cisco 800 router (which I believe
> is 10/100 only .. tho I cudnt swear for sure)
> 
>  The inside is connected to the SR2024 Gb switch.
> 
>  Both nic's come up in 100 Mb/s - I rebooted the switch, and I plugged
> and unplugged the cables, I tried ethtool -r ethx a few times to no avail.
> 
>  Other machines on same switch are happily running at full gigabit speeds.
> 
>  Nothing in logs suggests a problem
> 
>  Is there a problem with multi nics of same brand where they need to run
> at diff speeds ? Or is this a quirk with some hardware somewhere ? Or ???
> 
> 

Unlikely.
We use Intel NIC's (both 1GbE and 10GbE) extensively (up to  16 linkes
per machine) for link monitoring without issues.

>  Appreciate any suggesions ... its getting tiring forcing renogiation!


Try connecting the two links to each other.
Set their respective IP's to 1.1.1.1/255.255.255.0 (eth1) and
2.2.2.2/255.255.255.0 (eth2).
Now, check that they both auto negotiate to 1GbE/Full duplex.
If they don't, you have a wire issue. (Is it CAT 5 or above?)
If they do, do the following:

1. Install iptraf. ($ yum install iptraf -y)
2. Launch iptrag and configure it to work in promiscuous mode (Configure
-> Force promiscuous mode).
3. Go back, select the "general interface statistics".
4. From another console, start flood pinging.
ping -s 1400 -f -i eth2 -b 1.1.1.255
5. Return to the iptraf console, you should the see the packet increase
linearly on both interfaces. If it doesn't, something is broken, if it
does - you have a switch problem.

- Gilboa

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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/18/2010 09:20 PM, JD wrote:
> 

> Did you try
> ethtool-s  ethX  speed 1000
> 


  Yes I did several times - it didn't take ... it sets at 100

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Re: problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-18 Thread JD


On 09/18/2010 06:08 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>
>   Anyone got any suggestions for this.
>
>   I have a linksys sr2024 Gb switch
>
>   Several things are plugged into this - all using cat 5e or cat 6 cables.
>
>
>   Some things are connecting with full Gb speed but the main firewall wont.
>
>   The machine has 3 intel nic's -
>
>lspci | egrep -i ethernet
> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet
> Controller (rev 01)
> 05:04.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
> Controller (rev 05)
> 05:05.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
> Controller (rev 05)
>
>   The 82573 is on board and not used - the other 2 nic's are used - one
> for internal subnet and one for external.
>
>   The internet side is connected to a cisco 800 router (which I believe
> is 10/100 only .. tho I cudnt swear for sure)
>
>   The inside is connected to the SR2024 Gb switch.
>
>   Both nic's come up in 100 Mb/s - I rebooted the switch, and I plugged
> and unplugged the cables, I tried ethtool -r ethx a few times to no avail.

Did you try
ethtool-s  ethX  speed 1000


>   Other machines on same switch are happily running at full gigabit speeds.
>
>   Nothing in logs suggests a problem
>
>   Is there a problem with multi nics of same brand where they need to run
> at diff speeds ? Or is this a quirk with some hardware somewhere ? Or ???
>
>
>   Appreciate any suggesions ... its getting tiring forcing renogiation!
>
>   thanks ...
>
> gene/
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problems with gigabit speeds on dual network card

2010-09-18 Thread Genes MailLists


 Anyone got any suggestions for this.

 I have a linksys sr2024 Gb switch

 Several things are plugged into this - all using cat 5e or cat 6 cables.


 Some things are connecting with full Gb speed but the main firewall wont.

 The machine has 3 intel nic's -

  lspci | egrep -i ethernet
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet
Controller (rev 01)
05:04.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
Controller (rev 05)
05:05.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
Controller (rev 05)

 The 82573 is on board and not used - the other 2 nic's are used - one
for internal subnet and one for external.

 The internet side is connected to a cisco 800 router (which I believe
is 10/100 only .. tho I cudnt swear for sure)

 The inside is connected to the SR2024 Gb switch.

 Both nic's come up in 100 Mb/s - I rebooted the switch, and I plugged
and unplugged the cables, I tried ethtool -r ethx a few times to no avail.

 Other machines on same switch are happily running at full gigabit speeds.

 Nothing in logs suggests a problem

 Is there a problem with multi nics of same brand where they need to run
at diff speeds ? Or is this a quirk with some hardware somewhere ? Or ???


 Appreciate any suggesions ... its getting tiring forcing renogiation!

 thanks ...

gene/
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