Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 05.07.2012 19:15, schrieb Jim:

Fedora 17

the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
and it won't let me change the label back to /home

what does mount /dev/sda /home say in dmesg`


I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck

you should not play around before
knowing what problem the drive has

if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

what about BACKUPS?

ff your data is important backups exists
if your data is not important it does not matter

why do people still need to learn it the hard way?



I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb image to 
sdb1 but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .


Confused ???

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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
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On 07/06/2012 03:11 PM, Jim wrote:
 I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb
 image to sdb1 but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .
 
 Confused ???

That writes a block-for-block image of the content of sda2 to the
device sdb1. It will overwrite any file system, LVM label, swap label
etc. on the device as well as the contents.

If you want to create an image of a device in a file system you need
something like:

dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/tmp/sda2.img

Where /tmp is any path to a mounted file system that you can write to
and that has enough free space for the entire device image. You can
compress these inline if you wish to save space.

Regards,
Bryn.


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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.07.2012 16:11, schrieb Jim:
 On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck
 you should not play around before
 knowing what problem the drive has

 if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
 what about BACKUPS?

 ff your data is important backups exists
 if your data is not important it does not matter

 why do people still need to learn it the hard way?

 I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb image to sdb1 
 but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .
 
 Confused ???

no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything about
basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
data by overwrite the whole partition

/dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sd1

if you want a image you have to use dd if=/deV7sda1 of=/path/filename.image





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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.07.2012 17:01, schrieb Reindl Harald:
 
 
 Am 06.07.2012 16:11, schrieb Jim:
 On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck
 you should not play around before
 knowing what problem the drive has

 if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
 what about BACKUPS?

 ff your data is important backups exists
 if your data is not important it does not matter

 why do people still need to learn it the hard way?

 I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb image to sdb1 
 but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .

 Confused ???
 
 no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything about
 basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
 data by overwrite the whole partition
 
 /dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sd1
 
 if you want a image you have to use dd if=/deV7sda1 of=/path/filename.image

well, i guess the reason why this happened was a combination
of plain stupid advise below without explain what it does in
a real dangerous way and blindly following any advise without
trying to understand what are you doing

hopefully lesson learned - BOTH of you!

this is why i said google for ddrescue and NOT provide any
HIGH DANGEROUS command line

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: sda2 is corrupted
Datum: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:15:14 +0200
Von: Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org
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On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk



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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/06/2012 11:09 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 06.07.2012 17:01, schrieb Reindl Harald:


Am 06.07.2012 16:11, schrieb Jim:

On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck

you should not play around before
knowing what problem the drive has

if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

what about BACKUPS?

ff your data is important backups exists
if your data is not important it does not matter

why do people still need to learn it the hard way?


I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb image to sdb1 
but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .

Confused ???

no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything about
basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
data by overwrite the whole partition

/dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sd1

if you want a image you have to use dd if=/deV7sda1 of=/path/filename.image

well, i guess the reason why this happened was a combination
of plain stupid advise below without explain what it does in
a real dangerous way and blindly following any advise without
trying to understand what are you doing

hopefully lesson learned - BOTH of you!

this is why i said google for ddrescue and NOT provide any
HIGH DANGEROUS command line

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: sda2 is corrupted
Datum: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:15:14 +0200
Von: Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org
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On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk



that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external 
drive after dd has completed .


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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.07.2012 17:22, schrieb Jim:
 On 07/06/2012 11:09 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

 Am 06.07.2012 17:01, schrieb Reindl Harald:

 Am 06.07.2012 16:11, schrieb Jim:
 On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck
 you should not play around before
 knowing what problem the drive has

 if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
 what about BACKUPS?

 ff your data is important backups exists
 if your data is not important it does not matter

 why do people still need to learn it the hard way?

 I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb image to 
 sdb1 but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .

 Confused ???
 no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything about
 basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
 data by overwrite the whole partition

 /dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sd1

 if you want a image you have to use dd if=/deV7sda1 
 of=/path/filename.image
 well, i guess the reason why this happened was a combination
 of plain stupid advise below without explain what it does in
 a real dangerous way and blindly following any advise without
 trying to understand what are you doing

 hopefully lesson learned - BOTH of you!

 this is why i said google for ddrescue and NOT provide any
 HIGH DANGEROUS command line

  Original-Nachricht 
 Betreff: Re: sda2 is corrupted
 Datum: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:15:14 +0200
 Von: Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org
 Antwort an: Community support for Fedora users 
 users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Organisation: private site
 An: users@lists.fedoraproject.org

 On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
 Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
 e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk



 that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external drive 
 after dd has completed

let me guess: /dev/sdb1 was mounted while you used dd
this does not work becasue you overwrite the whole FS and MBR
the OS does not rescan the drives after dd'ing

normally nobody would to this for a backup
ALWAYS of=/path/to(directory/filename.img

look here, this is the way to go for backups/mounting them
http://wiki.edseek.com/guide:mount_loopback





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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:22:55 -0400, Jim wrote:

  /dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sda2

  On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:
 
  There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
  Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
  e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk
 
 
 
 that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external 
 drive after dd has completed .

That makes no sense. If /dev/sdb1 points at a corrupted filesystem,
above dd command will copy the same corrupted filesystem to /dev/sda2.
That's expected and okay, if you only want to keep that one read-only as
a backup of the originally corrupted filesystem. Then you can play with
rescueing sdb1 - but be careful and remember that sda2 is supposed to be
your backup of a corrupted filesystem. Don't mess with that one.

Better would have been to copy sdb1 to an image file instead of another
partition device.

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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/06/2012 12:02 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:22:55 -0400, Jim wrote:


/dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sda2

On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk




that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
drive after dd has completed .

That makes no sense. If /dev/sdb1 points at a corrupted filesystem,
above dd command will copy the same corrupted filesystem to /dev/sda2.
That's expected and okay, if you only want to keep that one read-only as
a backup of the originally corrupted filesystem. Then you can play with
rescueing sdb1 - but be careful and remember that sda2 is supposed to be
your backup of a corrupted filesystem. Don't mess with that one.

Better would have been to copy sdb1 to an image file instead of another
partition device.


sda2 is the corrupted file system.
I'm trying to send a img of the sda2 to backup hard drive sdb1 .
I' running into a read-only filisystem on sda3 , but :

# mount | grep sda3

/dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered)

it say it is rw but when i run the dd command i get a read-only filesystem.

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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.07.2012 18:11, schrieb Jim:
 On 07/06/2012 12:02 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:22:55 -0400, Jim wrote:

 /dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sda2
 On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
 Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
 e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk

 that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
 drive after dd has completed .
 That makes no sense. If /dev/sdb1 points at a corrupted filesystem,
 above dd command will copy the same corrupted filesystem to /dev/sda2.
 That's expected and okay, if you only want to keep that one read-only as
 a backup of the originally corrupted filesystem. Then you can play with
 rescueing sdb1 - but be careful and remember that sda2 is supposed to be
 your backup of a corrupted filesystem. Don't mess with that one.

 Better would have been to copy sdb1 to an image file instead of another
 partition device.

 sda2 is the corrupted file system.
 I'm trying to send a img of the sda2 to backup hard drive sdb1

but you did sent the command to overwrite the whole partition
AND NOT a image some posts before!

 I' running into a read-only filisystem on sda3 , but :
 
 # mount | grep sda3
 /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered)

what role does play sda3 in this game now?

 it say it is rw but when i run the dd command i get a read-only filesystem

what role does play sda3 mounted as rootfs for the dd-command
and why should dd write to this drive?

A LAST TIME:

provide UNCUTTED inputs and outputs if you need help
as also FULL information what are you trying to do
and not only what you think is the solution



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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Rick Stevens

On 07/06/2012 08:22 AM, Jim issued this missive::

On 07/06/2012 11:09 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 06.07.2012 17:01, schrieb Reindl Harald:


Am 06.07.2012 16:11, schrieb Jim:

On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck

you should not play around before
knowing what problem the drive has

if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

what about BACKUPS?

ff your data is important backups exists
if your data is not important it does not matter

why do people still need to learn it the hard way?


I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb image to sdb1 
but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .

Confused ???

no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything about
basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
data by overwrite the whole partition

/dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sd1

if you want a image you have to use dd if=/deV7sda1 of=/path/filename.image

well, i guess the reason why this happened was a combination
of plain stupid advise below without explain what it does in
a real dangerous way and blindly following any advise without
trying to understand what are you doing

hopefully lesson learned - BOTH of you!

this is why i said google for ddrescue and NOT provide any
HIGH DANGEROUS command line

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: sda2 is corrupted
Datum: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:15:14 +0200
Von: Heinz Diehlh...@fritha.org
Antwort an: Community support for Fedora usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org
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An:users@lists.fedoraproject.org

On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk




that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
drive after dd has completed .


Jim, what the others are trying to say (and several of them not too 
gracefully) is that the command you ran simply did a block-for-block

copy of /dev/sda2 over the top of /dev/sdb1.  /dev/sdb1 is now an exact
copy of /dev/sda2 and whatever was on /dev/sdb1 has now been destroyed.

You need to re-create a filesystem on that /dev/sdb1 partition. Plug the
drive in and (as root) recreate the filesystem:

mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1

When that's done, mount /dev/sdb1 somewhere (usually there's a /mnt
directory you can use). Example:

mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

Finally, you can do the copy by entering this command:

dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/mnt/driveimage.img

This would create a file, driveimage.img in the /mnt directory (and 
thus on /dev/sdb1). Once that's complete, you can unmount /dev/sdb1:


umount /mnt

and unplug the drive to keep it safe. When that's all done, you can
attempt to run the fsck on /dev/sda2.
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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/06/2012 12:11 PM, Jim wrote:

On 07/06/2012 12:02 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:22:55 -0400, Jim wrote:


/dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sda2

On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:


There are some important data files I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk




that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
drive after dd has completed .

That makes no sense. If /dev/sdb1 points at a corrupted filesystem,
above dd command will copy the same corrupted filesystem to /dev/sda2.
That's expected and okay, if you only want to keep that one read-only as
a backup of the originally corrupted filesystem. Then you can play with
rescueing sdb1 - but be careful and remember that sda2 is supposed to be
your backup of a corrupted filesystem. Don't mess with that one.

Better would have been to copy sdb1 to an image file instead of another
partition device.


sda2 is the corrupted file system.
I'm trying to send a img of the sda2 to backup hard drive sdb1 .
I' running into a read-only filisystem on sda3 , but :

# mount | grep sda3

/dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered)

it say it is rw but when i run the dd command i get a read-only 
filesystem.


mount | grep sdb1
/dev/sdb1 on /media/backup type ext4 
(ro,relatime,seclabel,errors=continue,data=ordered)



now I find out that sdb1 ,external/USB hard drive is read-only, what 
command would I use to make it a read-write partition.


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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/06/2012 12:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 07/06/2012 08:22 AM, Jim issued this missive::

On 07/06/2012 11:09 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 06.07.2012 17:01, schrieb Reindl Harald:


Am 06.07.2012 16:11, schrieb Jim:

On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck

you should not play around before
knowing what problem the drive has

if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

what about BACKUPS?

ff your data is important backups exists
if your data is not important it does not matter

why do people still need to learn it the hard way?

I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, supposely a 26gb 
image to sdb1 but i do not see a image on  sdb1 .


Confused ???
no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything 
about

basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
data by overwrite the whole partition

/dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sd1

if you want a image you have to use dd if=/deV7sda1 
of=/path/filename.image

well, i guess the reason why this happened was a combination
of plain stupid advise below without explain what it does in
a real dangerous way and blindly following any advise without
trying to understand what are you doing

hopefully lesson learned - BOTH of you!

this is why i said google for ddrescue and NOT provide any
HIGH DANGEROUS command line

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: sda2 is corrupted
Datum: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:15:14 +0200
Von: Heinz Diehlh...@fritha.org
Antwort an: Community support for Fedora 
usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org

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On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk




that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
drive after dd has completed .


Jim, what the others are trying to say (and several of them not too 
gracefully) is that the command you ran simply did a block-for-block

copy of /dev/sda2 over the top of /dev/sdb1.  /dev/sdb1 is now an exact
copy of /dev/sda2 and whatever was on /dev/sdb1 has now been destroyed.

You need to re-create a filesystem on that /dev/sdb1 partition. Plug the
drive in and (as root) recreate the filesystem:

mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1

When that's done, mount /dev/sdb1 somewhere (usually there's a /mnt
directory you can use). Example:

mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

Finally, you can do the copy by entering this command:

dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/mnt/driveimage.img

This would create a file, driveimage.img in the /mnt directory 
(and thus on /dev/sdb1). Once that's complete, you can unmount /dev/sdb1:


umount /mnt

and unplug the drive to keep it safe. When that's all done, you can
attempt to run the fsck on /dev/sda2.
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Thanks Rick
I have done all that you have said but now I'm running into read-only 
file systems, what command would I use to change the ro to rw on 
external hard drive sdb1 ?


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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.07.2012 18:28, schrieb Jim:
 On 07/06/2012 12:11 PM, Jim wrote:
 On 07/06/2012 12:02 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:22:55 -0400, Jim wrote:

 /dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sda2
 On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:

 There are some important data files I must save off of sda2
 Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
 e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk



 that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
 drive after dd has completed .
 That makes no sense. If /dev/sdb1 points at a corrupted filesystem,
 above dd command will copy the same corrupted filesystem to /dev/sda2.
 That's expected and okay, if you only want to keep that one read-only as
 a backup of the originally corrupted filesystem. Then you can play with
 rescueing sdb1 - but be careful and remember that sda2 is supposed to be
 your backup of a corrupted filesystem. Don't mess with that one.

 Better would have been to copy sdb1 to an image file instead of another
 partition device.

 sda2 is the corrupted file system.
 I'm trying to send a img of the sda2 to backup hard drive sdb1 .
 I' running into a read-only filisystem on sda3 , but :

 # mount | grep sda3

 /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered)

 it say it is rw but when i run the dd command i get a read-only filesystem.
 
 mount | grep sdb1
 /dev/sdb1 on /media/backup type ext4 
 (ro,relatime,seclabel,errors=continue,data=ordered)
 
 
 now I find out that sdb1 ,external/USB hard drive is read-only, what command 
 would I use to make it a read-write
 partition.

boag this is the result of I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, 
supposely
a 26gb image to sdb1 but i do not see a image on  sdb1

as i said in my first reply today

 no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything about
 basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
 data by overwrite the whole partition

so you have to create a NEW fileystem on /dev/sdb1
you have overwritten it with the source-partition of you dd-command

also you did not realize why we are suggested to use dd or ddrescue
before any other attempt - because you get a BLOCKWISE image of the whole
partitionor even disk which can be backuped mutilple times to test restore
strategies

but if you are start using dd the wrong way you are pretty soon at the end
try to undersatnd what commands are supposed to do and read their manpages
CAREFULLY before use them, use google to learn about them and AFTER that
think if you are really sure to be the right person for data-restore
on a damaged disk

BUT even if you are coming to the conslusion you are the wrong one
the FIRST step to make CAREFUL a dd-image of a appearently dying
FS/disk is the right way becasue if the disk is dead whoever can continue
try to restore data from this image





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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.07.2012 18:35, schrieb Jim:
 On 07/06/2012 12:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
 that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
 drive after dd has completed .

 Jim, what the others are trying to say (and several of them not too 
 gracefully) is that the command you ran
 simply did a block-for-block
 copy of /dev/sda2 over the top of /dev/sdb1.  /dev/sdb1 is now an exact
 copy of /dev/sda2 and whatever was on /dev/sdb1 has now been destroyed.

 You need to re-create a filesystem on that /dev/sdb1 partition. Plug the
 drive in and (as root) recreate the filesystem:

 mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1

 When that's done, mount /dev/sdb1 somewhere (usually there's a /mnt
 directory you can use). Example:

 mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

 Finally, you can do the copy by entering this command:

 dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/mnt/driveimage.img

 This would create a file, driveimage.img in the /mnt directory (and thus 
 on /dev/sdb1). Once that's complete,
 you can unmount /dev/sdb1:

 umount /mnt

 and unplug the drive to keep it safe. When that's all done, you can
 attempt to run the fsck on /dev/sda2.
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 Thanks Rick
 I have done all that you have said but now I'm running into read-only file 
 systems, what command would I use to
 change the ro to rw on external hard drive sdb1 ?

YOU ARE STLL CONTINUE TO IGNORE WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU

what exactly did you not understand in the reply
which you are quoting now?

 Jim, what the others are trying to say (and several of them not too 
 gracefully)
 is that the command you ran simply did a block-for-block
 copy of /dev/sda2 over the top of /dev/sdb1.  /dev/sdb1 is now an exact
 copy of /dev/sda2 and whatever was on /dev/sdb1 has now been destroyed
 You need to re-create a filesystem on that /dev/sdb1 partition. Plug the
 drive in and (as root) recreate the filesystem:

 mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1

you have KILLED the FS of /dev/sdb1 with your first dd-command
there is NOTHING to restore, it is OVERWRITTEN COMPLETLY





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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/06/2012 12:35 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 06.07.2012 18:28, schrieb Jim:

On 07/06/2012 12:11 PM, Jim wrote:

On 07/06/2012 12:02 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:22:55 -0400, Jim wrote:


/dev/sdb1 is now a blockwise copy of /dev/sda2

On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote:


There are some important data files I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk




that is exactly what I did but nothing shows up on /dev/sdb1 external
drive after dd has completed .

That makes no sense. If /dev/sdb1 points at a corrupted filesystem,
above dd command will copy the same corrupted filesystem to /dev/sda2.
That's expected and okay, if you only want to keep that one read-only as
a backup of the originally corrupted filesystem. Then you can play with
rescueing sdb1 - but be careful and remember that sda2 is supposed to be
your backup of a corrupted filesystem. Don't mess with that one.

Better would have been to copy sdb1 to an image file instead of another
partition device.


sda2 is the corrupted file system.
I'm trying to send a img of the sda2 to backup hard drive sdb1 .
I' running into a read-only filisystem on sda3 , but :

# mount | grep sda3

/dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered)

it say it is rw but when i run the dd command i get a read-only filesystem.

mount | grep sdb1
/dev/sdb1 on /media/backup type ext4 
(ro,relatime,seclabel,errors=continue,data=ordered)


now I find out that sdb1 ,external/USB hard drive is read-only, what command 
would I use to make it a read-write
partition.

boag this is the result of I run  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1  to copy, 
supposely
a 26gb image to sdb1 but i do not see a image on  sdb1

as i said in my first reply today


no, just stupid because you do not read manuals nor know anything about
basic-commands and that is why you destroyed /dev/sdb1 if there were
data by overwrite the whole partition

so you have to create a NEW fileystem on /dev/sdb1
you have overwritten it with the source-partition of you dd-command

also you did not realize why we are suggested to use dd or ddrescue
before any other attempt - because you get a BLOCKWISE image of the whole
partitionor even disk which can be backuped mutilple times to test restore
strategies

but if you are start using dd the wrong way you are pretty soon at the end
try to undersatnd what commands are supposed to do and read their manpages
CAREFULLY before use them, use google to learn about them and AFTER that
think if you are really sure to be the right person for data-restore
on a damaged disk

BUT even if you are coming to the conslusion you are the wrong one
the FIRST step to make CAREFUL a dd-image of a appearently dying
FS/disk is the right way becasue if the disk is dead whoever can continue
try to restore data from this image






Believe me Reindl I been very much aware about writing on sda2 .

And thank you for your help

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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
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On 07/06/2012 05:35 PM, Jim wrote:
 Thanks Rick I have done all that you have said but now I'm running
 into read-only file systems, what command would I use to change the
 ro to rw on external hard drive sdb1 ?
 

It was probably still mounted from your first attempt - when a file
system is placed in read-only mode it remains mounted until an
administrator either unmounts it manually to clean up, or the system
is rebooted.

Regards,
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Re: sda2 is corrupted (HOWTO NOT HELP)

2012-07-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
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On 07/06/2012 05:35 PM, Jim wrote:
 Thanks Rick I have done all that you have said but now I'm running
 into read-only file systems, what command would I use to change the
 ro to rw on external hard drive sdb1 ?
 

Since the original dd command:

dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb1

Probably overwrote the file system that was on sdb1 (even though it
was mounted - Linux/UNIX will not stop you from doing that) this is
the most likely cause of the file system now being read only.

If you give dd the path of a block device (for e.g. /dev/sda2 or
/dev/sdb1) then it will write or read directly to or from the device.

This is useful for copying file system images between devices but is
probably not what you wanted here.

The if= argument to dd is the input file - where to read from - and
the of= argument is the output - where to write to. If this command
ran for any length of time it will have overwritten the file system on
sdb1.

When creating an image in another file system the if= argument must
be a device and the of= argument needs to be a path that refers to a
location on the target file system.

For instance, if I have /dev/sdc5 mounted on /home:

# mount | grep home
/dev/sdc5 on /home type ext3 (rw)

And if I want to take an image of /dev/sda2 and store it in a file
named sda2.img in my home directory I would run:

# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/home/bmr/sda2.img

You need to do something similar but specifying a path that
corresponds to the correct mount path for your sdb1 file system. When
taking an image like this if is a device node in /dev and of is a
path in the mounted file system.

The reason your file system is now read-only is that when ext2/3/4 (or
other file systems) detect an inconsistency with what's expected to be
on the disk they will place the fs in read-only mode to prevent
further damage.

When the kernel started reading unexpected data from sdb1 it triggered
this mechanism and aborted the file system.

The file system on sdb1 is possible damaged beyond repair at this
point so if there was nothing valuable on it already you are probably
best off unmounting it and creating a new file system on the device.

You should take some time to make sure you have everything correct
this time and ask questions if you're unsure about the right commands
to use but assuming sdb1 did not contain anything you want to recover
you could create a new file system on it, mount it, and create the
image with steps like the following:

# umount /dev/sdb1[ ensure that the device is not mounted before
   proceeding ]

This umount is probably the step you missed if you're still seeing
read-only messages.

# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 [ or mke2fs -t ext3 as Rick suggested - they
will both give you the same result ]
# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/mnt/sda2.img

This will create a new file named sda2.img in the top-level directory
of the new file system on sdb1 that is mounted at /mnt.

You can check that the mount command worked by running:

# dmesg | tail
EXT4-fs (loop7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
SELinux: initialized (dev loop7, type ext4), uses xattr

The device name will be different but you should see the mount message.

If you try this and get any errors it's probably a good idea to check
them out before carrying on.

You can find an example of all these commands and their output in
fpaste here: http://fpaste.org/XYNU/

Don't expect the output to be identical on your system but it should
provide a guide (I've tried to highlight where you should see
something different).

Regards,
Bryn.
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SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

Will guys I want to thank all of you that help me on this project.

This computer crashed four days after I gave it to my friend ,he said he 
just exited from playing his Games to logging onto the internet with 
Firefox. and something popped up about robo.. and he could not 
restart computer.
It would come up to rescue grub at bootup, I checked the partitions 
with gparted it changed the  / an /home partitions to UNKNOWN.  It 
crashed two partitions


I finally got the img of sda2 on to external hard drive 26gb.

Then I did a e2fsck /dev/sda2 it took e2fsck about 45 mins to fix the 
sda2 partition , One of Two users /home directories was totally gone , 
the one tjhat was being used at CRASH time.  But the one that was not 
being used and had the important data to be saved was still intact.


I have never seen a Linux computer crashed this bad.


THANK GOD FOR THE GUYS THAT DEVELOPE  E2FSCK.
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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote:

  Will guys I want to thank all of you that help me on this project.

 This computer crashed four days after I gave it to my friend ,he said he
 just exited from playing his Games to logging onto the internet with
 Firefox. and something popped up about robo.. and he could not
 restart computer.
 It would come up to rescue grub at bootup, I checked the partitions with
 gparted it changed the  / an /home partitions to UNKNOWN.  It crashed two
 partitions

 I finally got the img of sda2 on to external hard drive 26gb.

 Then I did a e2fsck /dev/sda2 it took e2fsck about 45 mins to fix the sda2
 partition , One of Two users /home directories was totally gone , the one
 tjhat was being used at CRASH time.  But the one that was not being used
 and had the important data to be saved was still intact.

 I have never seen a Linux computer crashed this bad.


 THANK GOD FOR THE GUYS THAT DEVELOPE  E2FSCK.


You ought to back everything up on an external drive for this person.
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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/06/2012 03:01 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jim binary...@comcast.net 
mailto:binary...@comcast.net wrote:


Will guys I want to thank all of you that help me on this project.

This computer crashed four days after I gave it to my friend ,he
said he just exited from playing his Games to logging onto the
internet with Firefox. and something popped up about
robo.. and he could not restart computer.
It would come up to rescue grub at bootup, I checked the
partitions with gparted it changed the  / an /home partitions to
UNKNOWN.  It crashed two partitions

I finally got the img of sda2 on to external hard drive 26gb.

Then I did a e2fsck /dev/sda2 it took e2fsck about 45 mins to fix
the sda2 partition , One of Two users /home directories was
totally gone , the one tjhat was being used at CRASH time.  But
the one that was not being used and had the important data to be
saved was still intact.

I have never seen a Linux computer crashed this bad.


THANK GOD FOR THE GUYS THAT DEVELOPE  E2FSCK.

You ought to back everything up on an external drive for this person.


I'am going to put it on my backup hard drive and take it over to my 
friends house and put it onto his brand new 500gb backup hard drive and 
let him pull off the files he needs.


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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Joe Wulf
Good for you.  Glad you achieved some lessons learned and success in getting 
some data back!
Now you can have a great weekend!





 From: Jim binary...@comcast.net
To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org 
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted
 

On 07/06/2012 03:01 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote:

Will guys I want to thank all of you that help me on this project.

This computer crashed four days after I gave it to my friend
,he said he just exited from playing his Games to logging
onto the internet with Firefox. and something popped up
about robo.. and he could not restart computer.
It would come up to rescue grub at bootup, I checked the
partitions with gparted it changed the  / an /home
partitions to UNKNOWN.  It crashed two partitions

I finally got the img of sda2 on to external hard drive
26gb.

Then I did a e2fsck /dev/sda2 it took e2fsck about 45 mins
to fix the sda2 partition , One of Two users /home
directories was totally gone , the one tjhat was being used
at CRASH time.  But the one that was not being used and had
the important data to be saved was still intact.

I have never seen a Linux computer crashed this bad.


THANK GOD FOR THE GUYS THAT DEVELOPE  E2FSCK. 
 

 
You ought to back everything up on an external drive for this person.


I'am going to put it on my backup hard drive and take it over to my friends 
house and put it onto his brand new 500gb backup hard drive and let him pull 
off the files he needs.


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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/06/2012 02:13 PM, Jim wrote:


 THANK GOD FOR THE GUYS THAT DEVELOPEÂ  E2FSCK.

 Â 
 You ought to back everything up on an external drive for this person.


 I'am going to put it on my backup hard drive and take it over to my
 friends house and put it onto his brand new 500gb backup hard drive and
 let him pull off the files he needs.
 
 
 

Did anything show up in the /lost+found directory?

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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Mike Wright

On 07/06/2012 01:41 PM, Steven Stern wrote:


Did anything show up in the /lost+found directory?



Good advice.

I had a box boot for the specified number of times to require an fsck. 
I ended up with a box that wouldn't boot.


After moving the drive to another machine I tried a little forensics: 
the entire contents of the /boot partition had disappeared.


On a hunch I treeed lost+found and found many leafless branches but 
one that had the entire contents of /boot.  Copied everything back to 
/boot and did another fsck.  Clean!


Returned the drive to its original box and booted.  Came up without a hitch.

To this day I haven't the slightest idea what happened to corrupt the 
drive and can say that its the first time I've ever found anything in a 
lost+found directory.  Very glad it was there.


First time in 15 years I've seen anything like that.
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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Jim

On 07/06/2012 04:41 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 07/06/2012 02:13 PM, Jim wrote:


 THANK GOD FOR THE GUYS THAT DEVELOPEÂ  E2FSCK.

Â
You ought to back everything up on an external drive for this person.



I'am going to put it on my backup hard drive and take it over to my
friends house and put it onto his brand new 500gb backup hard drive and
let him pull off the files he needs.




Did anything show up in the /lost+found directory?


1,100 folders
5,938 files
410.2mib

That is probly the lost User that lost his home directory

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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Fri, 6 Jul 2012, Mike Wright wrote:

After moving the drive to another machine I tried a little forensics: 
the entire contents of the /boot partition had disappeared.


On a hunch I treeed lost+found and found many leafless branches but 
one that had the entire contents of /boot.  Copied everything back to 
/boot and did another fsck.  Clean!


What does it mean to tree lost+found?

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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Mike Wright

On 07/06/2012 03:40 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Fri, 6 Jul 2012, Mike Wright wrote:


After moving the drive to another machine I tried a little forensics:
the entire contents of the /boot partition had disappeared.

On a hunch I treeed lost+found and found many leafless branches but
one that had the entire contents of /boot.  Copied everything back to
/boot and did another fsck.  Clean!


What does it mean to tree lost+found?



tree is a command that shows the contents of any directory, its 
subdirectories, and any files they contain.  Very useful.


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Re: SOLVED: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-06 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 14:55 -0400, Jim wrote:
 Then I did a e2fsck /dev/sda2 it took e2fsck about 45 mins to fix the 
 sda2 partition , One of Two users /home directories was totally gone ,
 the one tjhat was being used at CRASH time.  But the one that was not 
 being used and had the important data to be saved was still intact.
  
 I have never seen a Linux computer crashed this bad.

You'd want to test the drive for errors, now, in case it was the cause
of the crash.  There's no point continuing to use a faulty drive, even
if it appears to work at the time.  There are tools that can be
downloaded from the hard drive manufacturer's websites to test their own
drives (either windows tools, or they make a bootable CD that bypasses
any OS on your computer).  And there are SMART tools that can be used in
Linux.

Unexpected severe crashes and drive corruptions can just be a random
glitch (such as a momentary power fail), or indicative of some hardware
fault in the computer (the power supply, the drive itself, RAM,
motherboard, et cetera).  Or, simply, that the cards plugged into the
motherboard are walking loose of their sockets, and pulling them out
then re-inserting them is required.  And the old favourite, of the CPU
cooler being gunked up with fluff so the CPU overheats.

I'd try to do some investigation into *why* it failed, if I were you.

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sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Jim

Fedora 17

the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN 
and it won't let me change the label back to /home


I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.

There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2


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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 05.07.2012 19:15, Jim wrote:
 Fedora 17

 the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
 and it won't let me change the label back to /home

 I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2



1. What is the type of that file system?
2. Can you paste error messages related to this partition?
3. What happens after system reboot? Does it mount or not?


Mateusz Marzantowicz
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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 05.07.2012 19:15, schrieb Jim:
 Fedora 17
 
 the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN 
 and it won't let me change the label back to /home

what does mount /dev/sda /home say in dmesg`

 I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck

you should not play around before
knowing what problem the drive has

if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

what about BACKUPS?

ff your data is important backups exists
if your data is not important it does not matter

why do people still need to learn it the hard way?



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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Joe Wulf
One tool that I find helpful is 'cfg2html', which documents a whole bunch of 
stuff, including partition configuration and a few details that contribute to 
partition recovery.  Doesn't help after the fact, but take it as food for 
thought to assist with future problems.





 From: Jim binary...@comcast.net
To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: sda2 is corrupted
 
On 07/05/2012 01:23 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
 On 05.07.2012 19:15, Jim wrote:
 Fedora 17

 the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
 and it won't let me change the label back to /home

 I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2


 1. What is the type of that file system?
ext4
 2. Can you paste error messages related to this partition?
No , Gparted can not mount it either
 3. What happens after system reboot? Does it mount or not?
No , only  / is mounted


 Mateusz Marzantowicz


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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 05.07.2012, Jim wrote: 

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

Before you start any rescueing, take a full snapshot of the partition,
e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/on_an_external_disk or something like
that. Otherwise, your efforts to rescue the data can actually ruin it,
and without a backup, your data is irrecoverably lost.

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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 13:47 -0400, Jim wrote:
 On 07/05/2012 01:23 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
  On 05.07.2012 19:15, Jim wrote:
  Fedora 17
 
  the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
  and it won't let me change the label back to /home
 
  I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.
 
  There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
 
 
  1. What is the type of that file system?
 ext4
  2. Can you paste error messages related to this partition?
 No , Gparted can not mount it either
  3. What happens after system reboot? Does it mount or not?
 No , only  / is mounted
 
 
  Mateusz Marzantowicz
 
 

So when the system reboots you see a /dev/sda2 device, correct?

When you type mount /dev/sda2 /somewhere (where somewhere is some
existing, handy mount point) you get an error message saying that the
file system isn't recognized or can't be determined?

If you type mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /somewhere you get an error
message, e.g., not an ext4 filesystem?

What I would try next is running e2fsck -n /dev/sda2 and see what that
says.  The -n to insure nothing is written to the disk (just in case).
Try it and post the results to the list here.  The partition superblock
may be corrupted and I have no idea what e2fsck will try to do if that's
the case.  It may just give up without looking at the backup superblock.

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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Jim

On 07/05/2012 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 05.07.2012 19:15, schrieb Jim:

Fedora 17

the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
and it won't let me change the label back to /home

what does mount /dev/sda /home say in dmesg`


I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck

you should not play around before
knowing what problem the drive has

if it is a physical problem google for ddrescue


There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2

what about BACKUPS?

ff your data is important backups exists
if your data is not important it does not matter

why do people still need to learn it the hard way?




The home partition is on sda2



# mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /home
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail or so


 dmesg:

 927.983169] EXT4-fs (sda2): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem



This computer is a friend of mine and after this I did convince him 
about a backup external drive.


why do people still need to learn it the hard way?

Because they know better than you until they have a crash,then they listen and 
Blame the problem on you.



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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Jim

On 07/05/2012 02:13 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote:

On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 13:47 -0400, Jim wrote:

On 07/05/2012 01:23 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:

On 05.07.2012 19:15, Jim wrote:

Fedora 17

the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
and it won't let me change the label back to /home

I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.

There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2



1. What is the type of that file system?

ext4

2. Can you paste error messages related to this partition?

No , Gparted can not mount it either

3. What happens after system reboot? Does it mount or not?

No , only  / is mounted


Mateusz Marzantowicz



So when the system reboots you see a /dev/sda2 device, correct?

When you type mount /dev/sda2 /somewhere (where somewhere is some
existing, handy mount point) you get an error message saying that the
file system isn't recognized or can't be determined?

If you type mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /somewhere you get an error
message, e.g., not an ext4 filesystem?

What I would try next is running e2fsck -n /dev/sda2 and see what that
says.  The -n to insure nothing is written to the disk (just in case).
Try it and post the results to the list here.  The partition superblock
may be corrupted and I have no idea what e2fsck will try to do if that's
the case.  It may just give up without looking at the backup superblock.


 # e2fsck -n /dev/sda2
e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8).
Clear? no

e2fsck: Illegal inode number while checking ext3 journal for /home

/home: ** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **


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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Joe Wulf
Another option for you, is to check out 'runtime.org'.  Disclaimer... I do own 
some of their products and have had great success with them.
They have a Disk Explorer for Linux v4.26.. don't know for certain if it will 
examine the drive you are having problems with, but it is worth a shot.  They 
have a free download and it is $69.00 to purchase it.
They also have a free Live CD that is bootable and has their products embeded 
for use.





 From: Jim binary...@comcast.net
To: mcall...@allmanpc.com; Community support for Fedora users 
users@lists.fedoraproject.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: sda2 is corrupted
 
On 07/05/2012 02:13 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 13:47 -0400, Jim wrote:
 On 07/05/2012 01:23 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
 On 05.07.2012 19:15, Jim wrote:
 Fedora 17

 the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
 and it won't let me change the label back to /home

 I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.

 There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2


 1. What is the type of that file system?
 ext4
 2. Can you paste error messages related to this partition?
 No , Gparted can not mount it either
 3. What happens after system reboot? Does it mount or not?
 No , only  / is mounted

 Mateusz Marzantowicz

 So when the system reboots you see a /dev/sda2 device, correct?

 When you type mount /dev/sda2 /somewhere (where somewhere is some
 existing, handy mount point) you get an error message saying that the
 file system isn't recognized or can't be determined?

 If you type mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /somewhere you get an error
 message, e.g., not an ext4 filesystem?

 What I would try next is running e2fsck -n /dev/sda2 and see what that
 says.  The -n to insure nothing is written to the disk (just in case).
 Try it and post the results to the list here.  The partition superblock
 may be corrupted and I have no idea what e2fsck will try to do if that's
 the case.  It may just give up without looking at the backup superblock.

  # e2fsck -n /dev/sda2
e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8).
Clear? no

e2fsck: Illegal inode number while checking ext3 journal for /home

/home: ** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **


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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C. Allman



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On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:30 -0400, Jim wrote:
 On 07/05/2012 02:13 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote:
  On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 13:47 -0400, Jim wrote:
  On 07/05/2012 01:23 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
  On 05.07.2012 19:15, Jim wrote:
  Fedora 17
 
  the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
  and it won't let me change the label back to /home
 
  I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.
 
  There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
 
 
  1. What is the type of that file system?
  ext4
  2. Can you paste error messages related to this partition?
  No , Gparted can not mount it either
  3. What happens after system reboot? Does it mount or not?
  No , only  / is mounted
 
  Mateusz Marzantowicz
 
  So when the system reboots you see a /dev/sda2 device, correct?
 
  When you type mount /dev/sda2 /somewhere (where somewhere is some
  existing, handy mount point) you get an error message saying that the
  file system isn't recognized or can't be determined?
 
  If you type mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /somewhere you get an error
  message, e.g., not an ext4 filesystem?
 
  What I would try next is running e2fsck -n /dev/sda2 and see what that
  says.  The -n to insure nothing is written to the disk (just in case).
  Try it and post the results to the list here.  The partition superblock
  may be corrupted and I have no idea what e2fsck will try to do if that's
  the case.  It may just give up without looking at the backup superblock.
 
   # e2fsck -n /dev/sda2
 e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
 e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
 Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8).
 Clear? no
 
 e2fsck: Illegal inode number while checking ext3 journal for /home
 
 /home: ** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **
 
 

Before you do anything else I would definitely make the backup copy of
the partition as suggested earlier in another post using dd.

At this point I defer to the disk partition wizards on the list.  I have
no idea what would happen if you were to remove the -n switch and tell
e2fsck to clear the journal.  If I read the output from e2fsck right it
looks like a backup superblock was found (which is good, I'd think).

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Re: sda2 is corrupted

2012-07-05 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:43 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote:
 
 
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 On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:30 -0400, Jim wrote:
  On 07/05/2012 02:13 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote:
   On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 13:47 -0400, Jim wrote:
   On 07/05/2012 01:23 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
   On 05.07.2012 19:15, Jim wrote:
   Fedora 17
  
   the sda2 /home is corruoted and it changed /home partitiion to UNKNOWN
   and it won't let me change the label back to /home
  
   I have tried to use fedora and Gparted with no luck.
  
   There are some important data files  I must save off of sda2
  
  
   1. What is the type of that file system?
   ext4
   2. Can you paste error messages related to this partition?
   No , Gparted can not mount it either
   3. What happens after system reboot? Does it mount or not?
   No , only  / is mounted
  
   Mateusz Marzantowicz
  
   So when the system reboots you see a /dev/sda2 device, correct?
  
   When you type mount /dev/sda2 /somewhere (where somewhere is some
   existing, handy mount point) you get an error message saying that the
   file system isn't recognized or can't be determined?
  
   If you type mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /somewhere you get an error
   message, e.g., not an ext4 filesystem?
  
   What I would try next is running e2fsck -n /dev/sda2 and see what that
   says.  The -n to insure nothing is written to the disk (just in case).
   Try it and post the results to the list here.  The partition superblock
   may be corrupted and I have no idea what e2fsck will try to do if that's
   the case.  It may just give up without looking at the backup superblock.
  
# e2fsck -n /dev/sda2
  e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
  e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
  Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8).
  Clear? no
  
  e2fsck: Illegal inode number while checking ext3 journal for /home
  
  /home: ** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **
  
  
 
 Before you do anything else I would definitely make the backup copy of
 the partition as suggested earlier in another post using dd.
 
 At this point I defer to the disk partition wizards on the list.  I have
 no idea what would happen if you were to remove the -n switch and tell
 e2fsck to clear the journal.  If I read the output from e2fsck right it
 looks like a backup superblock was found (which is good, I'd think).
 
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 Founder, See How You Ski
 Allman Professional Consulting, Inc., www.allmanpc.com
 617-947-4263, Twitter:  @allmanpc
 

Whoops!  Sorry about not snipping off all of the header at the top of my
last post.

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