Re: something messing up USB recently?
On Sun, 2016-08-14 at 11:31 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 23:02 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote: > > > > > > > > AFAIK Kindles don't run on Android. > > > > Yes they do, its just a severely limited version of the OS heavily > > modified by Amazon to directly support Amazon apps. Amazon has replaced > > the default app store with their own, uses the Silk browser, etc. > > You appear to be talking about the Amazon Fire tablet. The Fire is not > a Kindle. I've had several Kindles (currently using a Voyage) and none > of them have an app store, run a browser called Silk, or mention > Android anywhere in their documentation or system information. They > also don't have a problem connecting to USB. Correction: due to Amazon's confused marketing the tablets are actually called Kindle Fire. However they are completely different from what is usually called the Kindle. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: something messing up USB recently?
On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 23:02 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote: > > AFAIK Kindles don't run on Android. > > Yes they do, its just a severely limited version of the OS heavily > modified by Amazon to directly support Amazon apps. Amazon has replaced > the default app store with their own, uses the Silk browser, etc. You appear to be talking about the Amazon Fire tablet. The Fire is not a Kindle. I've had several Kindles (currently using a Voyage) and none of them have an app store, run a browser called Silk, or mention Android anywhere in their documentation or system information. They also don't have a problem connecting to USB. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: something messing up USB recently?
On 08/13/16 18:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > AFAIK Kindles don't run on Android. Yes they do, its just a severely limited version of the OS heavily modified by Amazon to directly support Amazon apps. Amazon has replaced the default app store with their own, uses the Silk browser, etc. > poc > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@verizon.net cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://www.linuxcounter.net/) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: something messing up USB recently?
On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 12:52 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > > > I just tried to plug in my old kindle, and f24 wouldn't > > recognize it as a disk device (it has always worked > > in the past). > > > > After trying lots of different USB ports, I finally > > did a "dnf update" and rebooted the system just > > to make sure everything was totally up to date. > > > > After the reboot, it recognized the kindle right away. > > > > I have had this issue off and on ever since the introduction of MTP. Back > in the days when Android devices were just recognized as USB storage > devices, everything worked great, now you have to go through this extra > layer of crap that doesn't work very well. I can no longer just copy > everything off my phone, the copy always fails partway through. And, I do > sometimes have it stop recognizing my devices when I plug them in, and > nothing short of a reboot seems to fix this (if anybody knows what daemon > could be restarted to avoid a reboot, I'd love to hear). AFAIK Kindles don't run on Android. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: something messing up USB recently?
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:59:07 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:
> I did get a lot of log messages saying "This isn't an MTP device",
> but it never seemed to take the extra step of recognizing it
> as a USB drive till after the reboot.
Actually after doing some googling, there may be something to
this. Apparently some devices don't like being probed and I
see that the file /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules consists
mostly of rules to avoid probing certain device IDs, so I
added this rule for my kindle:
# My old kindle never seems to mount properly if probed to see
# if it is MTP (it isn't)
ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0004", GOTO="libmtp_rules_end"
I'll see if I have any trouble mounting it in the future.
Certainly all the "this isn't an MTP device" messages have
now gone away.
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Re: something messing up USB recently?
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:52:59 -0600 Greg Woods wrote: > I have had this issue off and on ever since the introduction of MTP. I did get a lot of log messages saying "This isn't an MTP device", but it never seemed to take the extra step of recognizing it as a USB drive till after the reboot. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: something messing up USB recently?
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I just tried to plug in my old kindle, and f24 wouldn't > recognize it as a disk device (it has always worked > in the past). > > After trying lots of different USB ports, I finally > did a "dnf update" and rebooted the system just > to make sure everything was totally up to date. > > After the reboot, it recognized the kindle right away. > I have had this issue off and on ever since the introduction of MTP. Back in the days when Android devices were just recognized as USB storage devices, everything worked great, now you have to go through this extra layer of crap that doesn't work very well. I can no longer just copy everything off my phone, the copy always fails partway through. And, I do sometimes have it stop recognizing my devices when I plug them in, and nothing short of a reboot seems to fix this (if anybody knows what daemon could be restarted to avoid a reboot, I'd love to hear). --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: something messing up USB recently?
On 08/13/2016 08:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I just tried to plug in my old kindle, and f24 wouldn't recognize it as a disk device (it has always worked in the past). After trying lots of different USB ports, I finally did a "dnf update" and rebooted the system just to make sure everything was totally up to date. After the reboot, it recognized the kindle right away. Now I wonder if this was bit rot on my system because it was up "too long" or if some recent update fixed something with USB. I guess there are some things man was not meant to know :-). Have you ever suspected kernel code that modifies kernel code? :) :) Of course, I do not mean it is there by design or intent. :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
something messing up USB recently?
I just tried to plug in my old kindle, and f24 wouldn't recognize it as a disk device (it has always worked in the past). After trying lots of different USB ports, I finally did a "dnf update" and rebooted the system just to make sure everything was totally up to date. After the reboot, it recognized the kindle right away. Now I wonder if this was bit rot on my system because it was up "too long" or if some recent update fixed something with USB. I guess there are some things man was not meant to know :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
