sylpheed updates on Fedora
Hi, I have been wondering about the lack of updates for sylpheed on Fedora. Neither the stable 3.2 nor the new develomental 3.3.1 has been provided: I looked up Bugzilla requests but they seem not to have been fulfilled. Is sylpheed on the road to becoming an orphan in Fefora? Many thanks, Ranjan -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sylpheed updates on Fedora
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:00:52 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I have been wondering about the lack of updates for sylpheed on Fedora. > Neither the stable 3.2 nor the new develomental 3.3.1 has been provided: I provide stable updates for Sylpheed on Centos here: http://www.melvilletheatre.com/articles/el6 Download sylpheed-3.2.0-1.src.rpm from my webpage, and do this: rpmbuild --rebuild sylpheed-3.2.0-1.src.rpm That will get you a Fedora binary of the latest stable version. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sylpheed updates on Fedora
The sad thing is that any packet, even if it is an application which has a large userbase both inside and outside Fedora, will drop dead if the maintainer leaves (there does not seem to be a process in place for replacing them). I was very surprised, for one, that the Netbeans IDE had been dropped completely for Fedora 17. The framework is still there, but the IDE is gone. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Frank Cox wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:00:52 -0500 > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > I have been wondering about the lack of updates for sylpheed on Fedora. > > Neither the stable 3.2 nor the new develomental 3.3.1 has been provided: > > I provide stable updates for Sylpheed on Centos here: > > http://www.melvilletheatre.com/articles/el6 > > Download sylpheed-3.2.0-1.src.rpm from my webpage, and do this: > > rpmbuild --rebuild sylpheed-3.2.0-1.src.rpm > > That will get you a Fedora binary of the latest stable version. > > -- > MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com > www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- Best, Christopher Svanefalk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sylpheed updates on Fedora
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:00:52 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I have been wondering about the lack of updates for sylpheed on Fedora. > Neither the stable 3.2 nor the new develomental 3.3.1 has been provided: > I looked up Bugzilla requests but they seem not to have been fulfilled. > Is sylpheed on the road to becoming an orphan in Fefora? A package in the Fedora collection is maintained by at least one person. It can happen that this person leaves without notice. It can also happen that there are co-maintainers, but the multiple maintainers don't communicate with eachother. And it can happen that the package "owner" owns packages without being active, and co-maintainers expect the owner to be more active or drop the package and not pretend that packages are being maintained. http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/sylpheed -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/843901 -> sylpheed-3.3.0beta1 is available -> Reported: 2012-07-27 11:44 EDT by Upstream Release Monitoring -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.05 0.06 0.11 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sylpheed updates on Fedora
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 12:00:49 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:00:52 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have been wondering about the lack of updates for sylpheed on Fedora. > > Neither the stable 3.2 nor the new develomental 3.3.1 has been provided: > > I looked up Bugzilla requests but they seem not to have been fulfilled. > > Is sylpheed on the road to becoming an orphan in Fefora? > > A package in the Fedora collection is maintained by at least one person. > It can happen that this person leaves without notice. It can also happen > that there are co-maintainers, but the multiple maintainers don't > communicate with eachother. And it can happen that the package "owner" > owns packages without being active, and co-maintainers expect the owner to > be more active or drop the package and not pretend that packages are > being maintained. > > http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/sylpheed >-> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/843901 > -> sylpheed-3.3.0beta1 is available > -> Reported: 2012-07-27 11:44 EDT by Upstream Release Monitoring > > -- Since I don't see how one can compel an owner to inform all when he leaves (unless done voluntarily), perhaps one way out could be to have co-maintainers be informed if BZ requests have not been acted (not necessarily resolved) on for more than a month (pick a reasonable timeframe)? At the same time, requests could go out for more co-maintainer (volunteers) if the number of co-maintainers drops precipitously low? Best, Ranjan GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM & EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM?, MSN? Messenger, Yahoo!? Messenger, ICQ?, Google Talk? and most webmails -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sylpheed updates on Fedora
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:16:45 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Since I don't see how one can compel an owner to inform all when he > leaves (unless done voluntarily), perhaps one way out could be to have > co-maintainers be informed if BZ requests have not been acted (not > necessarily resolved) on for more than a month (pick a reasonable > timeframe)? They should know already. Co-maintainers can choose not to be added to bugzilla Cc in case they receive too much bugzilla traffic for other packages. But real co-maintainers would _actively_ monitor and respond to bugzilla traffic as well as keep an eye on pkg git commit notifications. In Fedora pkgdb you can see how many maintainers receive bugzilla traffic for a package. If there are multiple people with "watchbugzilla" access in pkgdb, but the tickets in bugzilla are not responded to, that may be reason to be concerned. Consider contributing in such a case. > At the same time, requests could go out for more > co-maintainer (volunteers) if the number of co-maintainers drops > precipitously low? Difficult to answer. Some package owners don't like to have co-maintainers. They fear a package might be "taken away" from them or that they lose control over the package if somebody else is more active. Hence it better be the opposite, that people with interest in a package try to get involved sooner and become co-maintainers even in cases where some "primary maintainer" seems to be active enough. Of course, once you volunteer, it could happen that a maintainer would happily give away a package to you and focus on something else. -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.05 0.24 0.25 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sylpheed updates on Fedora
There seems to be only one maintainer to whom BZ requests are submitted: Itamar Reis Peixoto Not clear if he is even getting these requests.\ Ranjan On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:43:46 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:16:45 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Since I don't see how one can compel an owner to inform all when he > > leaves (unless done voluntarily), perhaps one way out could be to have > > co-maintainers be informed if BZ requests have not been acted (not > > necessarily resolved) on for more than a month (pick a reasonable > > timeframe)? > > They should know already. Co-maintainers can choose not to be added to > bugzilla Cc in case they receive too much bugzilla traffic for other > packages. But real co-maintainers would _actively_ monitor and respond > to bugzilla traffic as well as keep an eye on pkg git commit notifications. > > In Fedora pkgdb you can see how many maintainers receive bugzilla traffic > for a package. If there are multiple people with "watchbugzilla" access > in pkgdb, but the tickets in bugzilla are not responded to, that may > be reason to be concerned. Consider contributing in such a case. > > > At the same time, requests could go out for more > > co-maintainer (volunteers) if the number of co-maintainers drops > > precipitously low? > > Difficult to answer. Some package owners don't like to have co-maintainers. > They fear a package might be "taken away" from them or that they lose control > over the package if somebody else is more active. > Hence it better be the opposite, that people with interest in a package > try to get involved sooner and become co-maintainers even in cases where > some "primary maintainer" seems to be active enough. Of course, once you > volunteer, it could happen that a maintainer would happily give away a > package to you and focus on something else. > > -- > Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 > loadavg: 0.05 0.24 0.25 > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: sylpheed updates on Fedora
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:16:57 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > There seems to be only one maintainer to whom BZ requests are > submitted: > > Itamar Reis Peixoto > > Not clear if he is even getting these requests.\ You must be reading something wrong. ;) There's a second maintainer who has been the only one to touch the package for a long time. Check out: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/sylpheed and http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=3898 Many other packages would/might benefit from people with interest in the packaged software. -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.5.3-1.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.05 0.08 0.12 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
