Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-09 Thread Peter Gueckel
suvayu ali wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 18:55, Peter Gueckel  wrote:
>> I was... referring to the majority of... Fedora users.
> 
> What makes you think that is true? I would actually expect it to be
> otherwise. In any case, a distribution like Fedora cannot afford to
> make assumptions like that.

Yes, that is an assumption that could well prove false.

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Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-09 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 18:55, Peter Gueckel  wrote:
> suvayu ali wrote:
>
>
>> *cough* Majority of the world is not latin based language speaking *cough*
>
> I realize that, but I was not referring to the majority of the world's
> population, but to the majority of Fedora users.

What makes you think that is true? I would actually expect it to be
otherwise. In any case, a distribution like Fedora cannot afford to
make assumptions like that.

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Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-09 Thread Peter Gueckel
suvayu ali wrote:


> *cough* Majority of the world is not latin based language speaking *cough*

I realize that, but I was not referring to the majority of the world's 
population, but to the majority of Fedora users.

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Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday, 8. March 2012. 17.06.15 Peter Gueckel wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
> > it.
> 
> It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would
> never need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.

I'd say you need to reevaluate who constitutes the majority on this planet, 
and whether or not they use a latin alphabet. ;-)

Best, :-)
Marko


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Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread 夜神 岩男

On 03/09/2012 09:06 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote:

Marko Vojinovic wrote:


If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
it.


It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would never
need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.


Most of us in the rest of the world use this thousands of keystrokes 
every day. If this were to be overlooked in a distro it would be 
completely unusable. Native language input for languages associated with 
roughy half the world's landmass require this.


I'm unsure whether this means an American English base install should 
mark it as "recommended", but since packaging guidelines are 
region/language agnostic the simple answer is to leave listed as 
"recommended".


-IY
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Re: [solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 01:06, Peter Gueckel  wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
>> If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
>> it.
>
> It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would 
> never
> need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.

*cough* Majority of the world is not latin based language speaking *cough*

;)

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[solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Gueckel
Marko Vojinovic wrote:

> If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
> it.

It's odd that is would say "recommended" when the mojority of users would never 
need it, but, no matter, I have disabled it again.

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[solved] Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Gueckel
suvayu ali wrote:

> Its very useful to type scripts which are not based on the latin
> alphabet

OK, thanks. I have disabled it again.

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Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 21:44, Marko Vojinovic  wrote:
>> ibus is recommended, but what am I getting here? I don't see any difference,
>> excepting the (useless) applet.
>
> Ibus is essential for complicated-to-input-multi-keystroke languages, like
> Chinese and such. If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need
> it. OTOH, I am not sure how much system resources it uses when idle, so if it
> doesn't have a big memory footprint, you can leave it be.

Its very useful to type scripts which are not based on the latin
alphabet, e.g. Devanagari, Bengali, Chinese, Japanese and many others.

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Re: to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday, 8. March 2012. 12.23.47 Peter Gueckel wrote:
> My system has been working fine. I noticed that the input method selector
> showed that no input method was in use. I also noticed that ibus was
> recommended, so I decided to enable it. I logged out and back in, as
> directed.
> 
> I haven't got a clue what the advantage is and I don't see any difference,
> except that there is now an applet in the system tray that says "no input
> window", but when I start firefox, it says "english default layout (intl)".
> 
> ibus is recommended, but what am I getting here? I don't see any difference,
> excepting the (useless) applet.

Ibus is essential for complicated-to-input-multi-keystroke languages, like 
Chinese and such. If you don't know what it is, most probably you don't need 
it. OTOH, I am not sure how much system resources it uses when idle, so if it 
doesn't have a big memory footprint, you can leave it be.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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to ibus or not to ibus, that is the question

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Gueckel
My system has been working fine. I noticed that the input method selector 
showed 
that no input method was in use. I also noticed that ibus was recommended, so I 
decided to enable it. I logged out and back in, as directed.

I haven't got a clue what the advantage is and I don't see any difference, 
except that there is now an applet in the system tray that says "no input 
window", but when I start firefox, it says "english default layout (intl)".

ibus is recommended, but what am I getting here? I don't see any difference, 
excepting the (useless) applet.

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