Re: unwanted checks for updates. [SOLVED]
(on Dec. 24, I wrote) > ... I need to try/test this [dnfdragora] more. Now I think it's > just doing whatever I last asked when I last exited. ... I was correct. For example, if I set it to show "Groups", "Not installed", "in names", search string blank, then click "Quit", then the next time I launch the tool, even after re-boot and log in (same user), or log out - log in (same user), the tool will show all groups that are available but not installed on the workstation. (on Dec. 23, I wrote) > ... Consider this thread in a "beta" state for a few days to make > sure there are no problems. ... Beta testing done. After a weekly patching, a few cycles of nightly power-down and morning power-up, and a few days of regular operational use, I'm confident this really is fixed. I'm upgrading this to SOLVED. I thank participants for their help. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
(Joe said) > When you're finished, you need to make sure that you exit, > not just minimize it to an icon on your panel. 1. It's listing updates immediately upon launch. 2. I clicked the "Quit" button, not just minimize. I need to try/test this more. Now I think it's just doing whatever I last asked when I last exited. I also need to see what it does when first launch after log-in, or boot and log-in. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/24/2018 10:48 AM, home user via users wrote: (Patrick said) > dnf install dnfdragora Thank-you, Patrick. done. It works, but I notice that this, too, automatically checks for updates. When you're finished, you need to make sure that you exit, not just minimize it to an icon on your panel. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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(Patrick said) > dnf install dnfdragora Thank-you, Patrick. done. It works, but I notice that this, too, automatically checks for updates. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 16:07 -0700, home user via users wrote: > (Ed asked) > > What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragora for package management. > > I use Gnome. I have quite a few KDE apps/tools on this system, I assume > all by default. I use KSysGuard routinely in Gnome, and K3b in Gnome > semi-annually. I used KDE System Settings in Gnome earlier this month. > But I see no dnfdragora (or Kdnfdragora). dnf install dnfdragora poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
The issues of the thread appear to be solved as best as can be hoped for. Apparently like Rick Stevens in another thread, I don't like automatic updates or automatic checks for updates. Now, I'm no longer being asked for a go-ahead to update things. So as best as I can determine, no automatic updates and checks for updates are happening. Consider this thread in a "beta" state for a few days to make sure there are no problems. You know how software works: everything works great in formal testing, but then use the workstation normally (operationally), and f-w-o-o-o-m! (Do I hear a bunch of list members snickering?!) If there are no problems after a few days, I'll promote this thread to SOLVED. (I will keep watching for further posts.) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
(Ed asked) > What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragora for package management. I use Gnome. I have quite a few KDE apps/tools on this system, I assume all by default. I use KSysGuard routinely in Gnome, and K3b in Gnome semi-annually. I used KDE System Settings in Gnome earlier this month. But I see no dnfdragora (or Kdnfdragora). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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> The problem is that now it looks to me like > apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without > also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools > useful for searching without them checking for updates? What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragora for package management. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/22/18 2:54 PM, home user via users wrote: (Samuel suggested) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer I did that, rebooted, and tried dnf upgrade --refresh The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the patches, as I don't think that is relevant to this thread. It will be much slower because dnf has to download all the metadata for all the repositories before it can do anything. If you have the timer enabled, then most of the time that metadata will already be up to date. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On 12/22/18 10:50 AM, home user via users wrote: These confirm what Ed and Samuel say about apper and Software being dependent on PackageKit. The problem is that now it looks to me like apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools useful for searching without them checking for updates? I don't think you can. Several times this year, while doing weekly patches (dnf upgrade --refresh), a little window slid down from the top of the display (where date and time are shown) indicating a problem. When I looked at the details, it was a crash or abort of PackageKit. I clicked the button in the problem reporter to submit a bug on this. The problem had already been reported by many other people. I believe the main bug is #1480846 (see "https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1480846;, comment 68). Despite these problems, the patches did seem to complete successfully. So I'm not really clear on what you mean when you say that dnf does not depend on PackageKit. You have the dependency backward. PackageKit uses libdnf. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Now responding to the dnf part... (Samuel suggested) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer I did that, rebooted, and tried dnf upgrade --refresh The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the patches, as I don't think that is relevant to this thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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I'm finally back to this. Here, I'll respond to the apper part. (Ed said) > apper is packagekit based. ... This is the first time I've > seen you mention apper. (and Samuel said) > Right. ... anything that depends on PackageKit won't work. ... > dnf does not require PackageKit, but Apper and Gnome Software do. > By unmaking it, you allowed them to dbus activate them. You > might end up getting update requests again. I occasionally use apper to look for things. But I want to use dnf and nothing else for installs, patches, and updates. I (re-)masked packagekit.service, rebooted, and launched apper. Just for testing purposes, I searched for "calculator". I get a pop-up error saying "An internal system error has occurred - Apper". When I click the pop-up's "Details >>" button, I see the following message: "Unit packagekit.service is masked.". Trying to launch Software results in a pop-up with the following message: --- "Unable to get list of updates: failed to get updates for refresh: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PackageKit: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.systemdl.UnitMasked: Unitpackagekit.service is masked." --- These confirm what Ed and Samuel say about apper and Software being dependent on PackageKit. The problem is that now it looks to me like apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools useful for searching without them checking for updates? Several times this year, while doing weekly patches (dnf upgrade --refresh), a little window slid down from the top of the display (where date and time are shown) indicating a problem. When I looked at the details, it was a crash or abort of PackageKit. I clicked the button in the problem reporter to submit a bug on this. The problem had already been reported by many other people. I believe the main bug is #1480846 (see "https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1480846;, comment 68). Despite these problems, the patches did seem to complete successfully. So I'm not really clear on what you mean when you say that dnf does not depend on PackageKit. On to trying the timer suggestions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/20/18 7:50 PM, home user via users wrote: Sometime after saying that what Ed suggested and that it worked. I discovered that it was overkill. I launched "apper", and it failed because "PackageKit" was not running. Having read the postings since my Dec. 18 message... Right. As I mentioned, anything that depends on PackageKit won't work. Having seen that, to do the weekly patches this morning, I first did systemctl unmask packagekit.service and then (after rebooting) proceeded to do dnf upgrade --refresh There were problems with python2 and hplip. But I assumed those problems were not related to PackageKit. (Let's leave those 2 problems aside for now; I'll get to those later. I am aware of the hplip thread.) Apart from those 2 problems, the patch worked. Apper and software also now appear to work, and I'm not getting any requests for permission to update. dnf does not require PackageKit, but Apper and Gnome Software do. By unmaking it, you allowed them to dbus activate them. You might end up getting update requests again. Let me approach this as a good software engineer should: *requirements* first! Here are my requirements for my workstation: The only times there should be any checking for updates is: * when I manually enter certain dnf commands. In this case, the checking should be a part of the dnf command's execution. So my weekly patches should only require "dnf upgrade --refresh", and that entered only once. If you're only using dnf, then mask PackageKit, it isn't required. Also, turn off the timer as below. * when rkhunter runs (I think it automatically checks for updates to its database). Unrelated. I don't know how to determine if any other checking is going on. Do I already have what I want, or do I need to do one or more of what was suggested by a few of you: (Samuel) But there is also a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If that's a concern for you, you can disable that one as well. (Ed) By "cron job" don't you mean dnf-makecache.timer in systemd? (Samuel) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer (Joe) systemctl stop dnf-makecache.timer (Samuel) Or run "systemctl disable --now dnf-makecache.timer" to do both at once. Since you're willing to add the --refresh option (probably not even needed), you can disable the timer as indicated. With PackageKit masked, there should not be any other update checking going on. If you leave PackageKit unmasked, there are many ways to have it start up in the background. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/21/18 11:50 AM, home user via users wrote: > (replying to several) > > Sometime after saying that what Ed suggested and that it worked. I discovered > that it > was overkill. I launched "apper", and it failed because "PackageKit" was not > running. > Having read the postings since my Dec. 18 message... apper is packagekit based. dnf is not packagekit based. This is the first time I've seen you mention apper. > > (Tom said) > > But as I discovered, if you disable that, and simply run > > > > dnf update > > > > it will never think there are any updates available. ... > > Having seen that, to do the weekly patches this morning, I first did > systemctl unmask packagekit.service No need to do that since you're using dnf. > and then (after rebooting) proceeded to do > dnf upgrade --refresh -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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(replying to several) Sometime after saying that what Ed suggested and that it worked. I discovered that it was overkill. I launched "apper", and it failed because "PackageKit" was not running. Having read the postings since my Dec. 18 message... (Tom said) > But as I discovered, if you disable that, and simply run > > dnf update > > it will never think there are any updates available. ... Having seen that, to do the weekly patches this morning, I first did systemctl unmask packagekit.service and then (after rebooting) proceeded to do dnf upgrade --refresh There were problems with python2 and hplip. But I assumed those problems were not related to PackageKit. (Let's leave those 2 problems aside for now; I'll get to those later. I am aware of the hplip thread.) Apart from those 2 problems, the patch worked. Apper and software also now appear to work, and I'm not getting any requests for permission to update. Let me approach this as a good software engineer should: *requirements* first! Here are my requirements for my workstation: The only times there should be any checking for updates is: * when I manually enter certain dnf commands. In this case, the checking should be a part of the dnf command's execution. So my weekly patches should only require "dnf upgrade --refresh", and that entered only once. * when rkhunter runs (I think it automatically checks for updates to its database). I don't know how to determine if any other checking is going on. Do I already have what I want, or do I need to do one or more of what was suggested by a few of you: (Samuel) But there is also a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If that's a concern for you, you can disable that one as well. (Ed) By "cron job" don't you mean dnf-makecache.timer in systemd? (Samuel) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer (Joe) systemctl stop dnf-makecache.timer (Samuel) Or run "systemctl disable --now dnf-makecache.timer" to do both at once. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On 12/18/18 4:17 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: systemctl stop dnf-makecache.timer might be a good idea if you don't want to reboot. Or run "systemctl disable --now dnf-makecache.timer" to do both at once. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/18/2018 04:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/18 3:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: By "cron job" don't you mean dnf-makecache.timer in systemd? Oh right, it moved to that. So the command to stop it would be: systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer But that's only necessary if you're concerned about internet data limits. systemctl stop dnf-makecache.timer might be a good idea if you don't want to reboot. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On 12/18/18 3:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: By "cron job" don't you mean dnf-makecache.timer in systemd? Oh right, it moved to that. So the command to stop it would be: systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer But that's only necessary if you're concerned about internet data limits. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/19/18 4:29 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/18/18 12:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:13:45 -0800 >> Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by >>> Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also >>> a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If >>> that's a concern for you, you can disable that one as well. >> >> But as I discovered, if you disable that, and simply run >> >> dnf update >> >> it will never think there are any updates available. >> >> To update entirely manually, I need to run: >> >> dnf makecache >> dnf update > > I thought you just needed to run it twice. Isn't there a bug filed for that? > But also, > I've never run into this. I haven't disabled the cron job, but sometimes dnf > will still > check and download updated metadata when I run it. > By "cron job" don't you mean dnf-makecache.timer in systemd? And, didn't we beat this subject to death not to long ago? I still *never* have to run a dnf command twice. I created an alias which does "dnf --refresh upgrade". -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/18/18 12:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:13:45 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If that's a concern for you, you can disable that one as well. But as I discovered, if you disable that, and simply run dnf update it will never think there are any updates available. To update entirely manually, I need to run: dnf makecache dnf update I thought you just needed to run it twice. Isn't there a bug filed for that? But also, I've never run into this. I haven't disabled the cron job, but sometimes dnf will still check and download updated metadata when I run it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:13:45 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by > Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also > a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If > that's a concern for you, you can disable that one as well. But as I discovered, if you disable that, and simply run dnf update it will never think there are any updates available. To update entirely manually, I need to run: dnf makecache dnf update these days. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On 12/18/18 12:09 PM, home user via users wrote: I hope these changes also turn off automatic *checking* for updates. I don't know how to see if that is the case. This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If that's a concern for you, you can disable that one as well. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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My apologies for the delay in trying these. I've been swampd. You know, gotta get the daily fix of "The Rifleman", "Hogan's Heroes", and "Rush to the Dead Summer". :) Ed suggested > gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false and > ... "systemctl mask packagekit.service" is a one time as root command. I did it. Ed also suggested > systemctl mask packagekit.service and > gsettings is a per/user setting ... I did it. Ed, you may be "not a regular gnome user", but you hit the nails on the head. These so far appears to work. If it's still fine after another few days, I'll tag this issue "SOLVED". Thank-you. I hope these changes also turn off automatic *checking* for updates. I don't know how to see if that is the case. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:33:17 -0700 home user via users wrote: > Thank-you for trying to help. > ___ the email addresses of the developers are given, I'd ask them directly. d -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. - Ursula Le Guin ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On 12/17/18 11:37 AM, home user via users wrote: > (Ed suggested) > > > gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false > and > > systemctl mask packagekit.service > > Thank-you, Ed. Do I need to do these once as root, or do I have to do these > as each > user on my workstation? > Certainly the "systemctl mask packagekit.service" is a one time as root command. gsettings is a per/user setting. There may be a way to make it the default. But not being a GNOME user I'd have to research that. I thought using "dconf-editor" as root would do it, but no. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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(Ed suggested) > gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false and > systemctl mask packagekit.service Thank-you, Ed. Do I need to do these once as root, or do I have to do these as each user on my workstation? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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(Dave said) > have you seen this wikipedia entry, "GNOME Software is a utility > for software installation and updates..." > > I'm using a debian derivative but on my package manager it's > described as "gnome-software", apparently from here: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software Before installing it, I knew what it did. I did not know it was not configurable. I've seen both websites before. They say nothing about how to configure "Software". Thank-you for trying to help. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/17/18 6:56 AM, home user via users wrote: > (F-28; gnome) > In a posting in the "downsized grub menu" thread, I said: > "Something keeps trying to do automated updates, but I have not been able to > figure out > what, or how to shut it off." > Tim replied, and suggested looking for something similar to MATE's > "mate-session-properties". I'm starting this new thread to address this > issue. > > I found a settings gui in gnome, but I cannot find anything (other than > ".bashrc" and > ".bash_profile") for managing what is automatically started when I log in. > > In a LibreOffice thread some time ago, I was advised to install a gnome > package called > "Software" so I could install a font needed to replace a discontinued font in > my > LibreOffice products. This is when I started seeing the unwanted update > checking and > notices. I have not been able to find a way to configure the package > "Software" at all. > > How do I get rid of the unwanted update checking and notifications? By the > way, I > manually patch the workstation almost every week with "dnf upgrade". Like > some other > members of this list, I prefer doing this manually. > Caveat, I'm not a regular gnome user. However, a quick google search indicates you may find doing gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false and systemctl mask packagekit.service will get you a quiet(er) system. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 15:56:57 -0700 home user via users wrote: > (F-28; gnome) > In a posting in the "downsized grub menu" thread, I said: > "Something keeps trying to do automated updates, but I have not been > able to figure out what, or how to shut it off." > Tim replied, and suggested looking for something similar to MATE's > "mate-session-properties". I'm starting this new thread to address > this issue. > > I found a settings gui in gnome, but I cannot find anything (other > than ".bashrc" and ".bash_profile") for managing what is > automatically started when I log in. > > In a LibreOffice thread some time ago, I was advised to install a > gnome package called "Software" so I could install a font needed to > replace a discontinued font in my LibreOffice products. This is when > I started seeing the unwanted update checking and notices. I have > not been able to find a way to configure the package "Software" at > all. have you seen this wikipedia entry, "GNOME Software is a utility for software installation and updates..." I'm using a debian derivative but on my package manager it's described as "gnome-software", apparently from here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software Dave > > How do I get rid of the unwanted update checking and notifications? > By the way, I manually patch the workstation almost every week with > "dnf upgrade". Like some other members of this list, I prefer doing > this manually. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
unwanted checks for updates.
(F-28; gnome) In a posting in the "downsized grub menu" thread, I said: "Something keeps trying to do automated updates, but I have not been able to figure out what, or how to shut it off." Tim replied, and suggested looking for something similar to MATE's "mate-session-properties". I'm starting this new thread to address this issue. I found a settings gui in gnome, but I cannot find anything (other than ".bashrc" and ".bash_profile") for managing what is automatically started when I log in. In a LibreOffice thread some time ago, I was advised to install a gnome package called "Software" so I could install a font needed to replace a discontinued font in my LibreOffice products. This is when I started seeing the unwanted update checking and notices. I have not been able to find a way to configure the package "Software" at all. How do I get rid of the unwanted update checking and notifications? By the way, I manually patch the workstation almost every week with "dnf upgrade". Like some other members of this list, I prefer doing this manually. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
