Re: [IronPython] Any news about the next release?
Thanks Dave for the much appreciate feedback. - Sylvain Dave Fugate wrote: > The reason we've been releasing 2.0 as monthly alphas is that the Dynamic > Language Runtime is still solidifying with improvements being made for > IronRuby among other things. While we could release a single alpha (or two) > a month prior to 2.0 beta 1, we like to integrate feedback from the community > into IronPython frequently. Also, our team tries to follow the agile > software development process (i.e., short release cycles). Last but > definitely not least, we're aiming to be Python 2.5 compatible with > IronPython 2.0 and we're not quite there yet. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain > Hellegouarch > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:48 PM > To: Discussion of IronPython > Subject: Re: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? > > Oh sweet news. > > However, what is the big showstopper to become a beta? A fifth alpha > means there must be something quite blocking down the line. > > /me hopes he'll manage to get it compiled with mono this time. > > - Sylvain > > Dave Fugate wrote: >> Hi, IronPython 2.0 Alpha 5 will be released after we wrap up work on a >> number of high priority bug fixes. This is scheduled to be completed at the >> end of this week which means it's likely 2.0A5 will become available >> sometime next week. >> >> Dave >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain >> Hellegouarch >> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:19 PM >> To: users@lists.ironpython.com >> Subject: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering if there was any news about the next available release? >> Will it be a beta or still an alpha? When may we expect it? >> >> Just to feed my curiosity :) >> >> Thanks, >> - Sylvain >> ___ >> Users mailing list >> Users@lists.ironpython.com >> http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com >> ___ >> Users mailing list >> Users@lists.ironpython.com >> http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] word wrap problem with posts from this newsgroup
2007/10/3, Kelie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > why many posts in this newsgroup don't wrap properly in browser? tried > both ie and firefox and had the same problem. so i had to drag the > horizontal scroll bar when viewing posts. is it just me? No it isn't. I see the same problem. -- Seo Sanghyeon ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] Any news about the next release?
The reason we've been releasing 2.0 as monthly alphas is that the Dynamic Language Runtime is still solidifying with improvements being made for IronRuby among other things. While we could release a single alpha (or two) a month prior to 2.0 beta 1, we like to integrate feedback from the community into IronPython frequently. Also, our team tries to follow the agile software development process (i.e., short release cycles). Last but definitely not least, we're aiming to be Python 2.5 compatible with IronPython 2.0 and we're not quite there yet. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain Hellegouarch Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:48 PM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? Oh sweet news. However, what is the big showstopper to become a beta? A fifth alpha means there must be something quite blocking down the line. /me hopes he'll manage to get it compiled with mono this time. - Sylvain Dave Fugate wrote: > Hi, IronPython 2.0 Alpha 5 will be released after we wrap up work on a number > of high priority bug fixes. This is scheduled to be completed at the end of > this week which means it's likely 2.0A5 will become available sometime next > week. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain > Hellegouarch > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:19 PM > To: users@lists.ironpython.com > Subject: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? > > Hi all, > > I was wondering if there was any news about the next available release? > Will it be a beta or still an alpha? When may we expect it? > > Just to feed my curiosity :) > > Thanks, > - Sylvain > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
[IronPython] Default recursion limit
Hello all, For IronPython the default recursion limit is maxint: 2147483647 This is too deep for .NET - and infinite recursion causes the process to be terminated with a stack overflow exception. You can fix this by calling "sys.setrecursionlimit(something)" with something sensible - but an unfeasibly large value as the default seems incorrect (?). There is a further performance related issue. Generally IronPython is much faster for recursion due to lower overhead in function calls. For recursion depths of about 5000 though, IronPython takes *much* longer to raise an error than CPython (about 10 seconds as opposed to half a second or less). Michael http://www.manning.com/foord ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] [python] Re: Any news about the next release?
We've been focusing on improving the DLR since the release of IronPython 2.0 Alpha 1, and as such have had few resources to develop concrete plans for a 1.1.1 release. I know there are a few bugs you'd like to get fixed WRT 1.1 (None.__doc__, urllib support, etc). If people vote for these on CodePlex (adding comments that these are desired for 1.1.1) or even bring them up on this list, the priority for 1.1.1 would increase. Also, if you submit any new bugs pertaining to IronPython 1.1 please: * prepend "IronPython 1.1:" to the title * add a "" tag to help us search for them. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Foord Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:46 PM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] [python] Re: Any news about the next release? Dave Fugate wrote: > Hi, IronPython 2.0 Alpha 5 will be released after we wrap up work on a number > of high priority bug fixes. This is scheduled to be completed at the end of > this week which means it's likely 2.0A5 will become available sometime next > week. > And what about 1.1.1 ? Some of us are still using the stable release... ;-) Michael > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain > Hellegouarch > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:19 PM > To: users@lists.ironpython.com > Subject: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? > > Hi all, > > I was wondering if there was any news about the next available release? > Will it be a beta or still an alpha? When may we expect it? > > Just to feed my curiosity :) > > Thanks, > - Sylvain > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > > ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] Any news about the next release?
2007/10/3, Sylvain Hellegouarch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > /me hopes he'll manage to get it compiled with mono this time. I forgot to mention this, but there is a Mono bug to track IronPython 2.0 Alpha x>1 (Alpha 1 compiles fine) compilation problem. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=325478 -- Seo Sanghyeon ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] Any news about the next release?
Oh sweet news. However, what is the big showstopper to become a beta? A fifth alpha means there must be something quite blocking down the line. /me hopes he'll manage to get it compiled with mono this time. - Sylvain Dave Fugate wrote: > Hi, IronPython 2.0 Alpha 5 will be released after we wrap up work on a number > of high priority bug fixes. This is scheduled to be completed at the end of > this week which means it's likely 2.0A5 will become available sometime next > week. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain > Hellegouarch > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:19 PM > To: users@lists.ironpython.com > Subject: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? > > Hi all, > > I was wondering if there was any news about the next available release? > Will it be a beta or still an alpha? When may we expect it? > > Just to feed my curiosity :) > > Thanks, > - Sylvain > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] [python] Re: Any news about the next release?
Dave Fugate wrote: > Hi, IronPython 2.0 Alpha 5 will be released after we wrap up work on a number > of high priority bug fixes. This is scheduled to be completed at the end of > this week which means it's likely 2.0A5 will become available sometime next > week. > And what about 1.1.1 ? Some of us are still using the stable release... ;-) Michael > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain > Hellegouarch > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:19 PM > To: users@lists.ironpython.com > Subject: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? > > Hi all, > > I was wondering if there was any news about the next available release? > Will it be a beta or still an alpha? When may we expect it? > > Just to feed my curiosity :) > > Thanks, > - Sylvain > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > > ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
[IronPython] word wrap problem with posts from this newsgroup
hello, why many posts in this newsgroup don't wrap properly in browser? tried both ie and firefox and had the same problem. so i had to drag the horizontal scroll bar when viewing posts. is it just me? thanks. -- Kelie ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] Any news about the next release?
Hi, IronPython 2.0 Alpha 5 will be released after we wrap up work on a number of high priority bug fixes. This is scheduled to be completed at the end of this week which means it's likely 2.0A5 will become available sometime next week. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvain Hellegouarch Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:19 PM To: users@lists.ironpython.com Subject: [IronPython] Any news about the next release? Hi all, I was wondering if there was any news about the next available release? Will it be a beta or still an alpha? When may we expect it? Just to feed my curiosity :) Thanks, - Sylvain ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] Bug in Alpha4 with __class__.__name__ ?
Thanks for the report Davy. Looks like it's been fixed with some recent
changes in the last month (see below), but I'll be sure to add a test against
this.
E:\ >ipy
IronPython console: IronPython 2.0 (2.0.0.00) on .NET 2.0.50727.1416
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>> import clr
>>> clr.AddReference("System.Windows.Forms")
>>> from System.Windows.Forms import *
>>> control = TextBox()
>>> print control.__class__.__name__
TextBox
>>>
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davy Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:17 PM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: [IronPython] Bug in Alpha4 with __class__.__name__ ?
IronPython console: IronPython 2.0A4 (2.0.10904.02) on .NET 2.0.50727.31
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>> import clr
>>> clr.AddReference("System.Windows.Forms")
>>> from System.Windows.Forms import *
>>> control = TextBox()
>>> print control.__class__.__name__
Traceback (most recent call last):
File , line 0, in ##19
File , line 0, in _stub_##21
AttributeError: 'DynamicTypeTypeSlot' object has no attribute '__name__'
IronPython console: IronPython 2.0A3 (2.0.10724.00) on .NET 2.0.50727.312
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>> import clr
>>> clr.AddReference("System.Windows.Forms")
>>> from System.Windows.Forms import *
>>> control = TextBox()
>>> print control.__class__.__name__
TextBox
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[IronPython] Any news about the next release?
Hi all, I was wondering if there was any news about the next available release? Will it be a beta or still an alpha? When may we expect it? Just to feed my curiosity :) Thanks, - Sylvain ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
[IronPython] Bug in Alpha4 with __class__.__name__ ?
IronPython console: IronPython 2.0A4 (2.0.10904.02) on .NET 2.0.50727.31
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>> import clr
>>> clr.AddReference("System.Windows.Forms")
>>> from System.Windows.Forms import *
>>> control = TextBox()
>>> print control.__class__.__name__
Traceback (most recent call last):
File , line 0, in ##19
File , line 0, in _stub_##21
AttributeError: 'DynamicTypeTypeSlot' object has no attribute '__name__'
IronPython console: IronPython 2.0A3 (2.0.10724.00) on .NET 2.0.50727.312
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>> import clr
>>> clr.AddReference("System.Windows.Forms")
>>> from System.Windows.Forms import *
>>> control = TextBox()
>>> print control.__class__.__name__
TextBox
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Re: [IronPython] [python] Re: INI File For IronPython
On 10/2/07, Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean that ConfigObj should work with IronPython - if it doesn't I'll > fix it. It is working great with IP :-) Davy -- Davy Mitchell Blog - http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/personal/davy/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/daftspaniel Skype - daftspaniel needgod.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] [python] Re: INI File For IronPython
Davy Mitchell wrote: > On 10/2/07, JoeSox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Feel free to look at pswrdgeniron (IronPython GUI for pswrdgen). >> http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/pswrdgeniron.asp >> The module opens itself and reads in the first few lines, which each >> setting is defined in order on a line. I used format of >> "VARNAME::value" with the value encoded as a string so it is easy to >> split and assign to a self.VARNAME. From there it's easy to bridge to >> IronPython. >> > > Interesting - reminds me of Pythoncard's resource file. Well a little :-) > > >> Why not just use ConfigObj ? >> > > I am using ConfigObj :-) Just considering losing the CPython > dependency if there was a drop-in DotNet replacement... > I mean that ConfigObj should work with IronPython - if it doesn't I'll fix it. Michael > Cheers, > Davy > > ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] INI File For IronPython
On 10/1/07, Andrew Schaeffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Use .NET app.config file.
Thanks for this Andrew. Works well for read-only stuff.
Limitation for me is the need for a exe. To get the following example
to work you need a ipy.exe.config
IronPython console: IronPython 2.0A4 (2.0.10904.02) on .NET 2.0.50727.312
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>> import clr
>>> clr.AddReference("System.Configuration")
>>> from System.Configuration import *
>>> print ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["Title"]
Watcher
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Re: [IronPython] INI File For IronPython
On 10/2/07, JoeSox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feel free to look at pswrdgeniron (IronPython GUI for pswrdgen). > http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/pswrdgeniron.asp > The module opens itself and reads in the first few lines, which each > setting is defined in order on a line. I used format of > "VARNAME::value" with the value encoded as a string so it is easy to > split and assign to a self.VARNAME. From there it's easy to bridge to > IronPython. Interesting - reminds me of Pythoncard's resource file. Well a little :-) > Why not just use ConfigObj ? I am using ConfigObj :-) Just considering losing the CPython dependency if there was a drop-in DotNet replacement... Cheers, Davy -- Davy Mitchell Blog - http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/personal/davy/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/daftspaniel Skype - daftspaniel needgod.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch
I pinged the dev who's been working on this (he's actually on another team), here's the response I got: We have not done comprehensive performance tests to find out differences between the two. Some time ago I tried to put a timer into test_cominterop.py where it iterated through an Excel 20x20 table and set values to it. In this test IDispatch-based calls turned out to be a bit faster. Which of the two is better? IDispatch based implementation requires TypeLibs, while the other approach would need to have Interop Assemblies deployed. So, from this perspective IDispatch-based option is more flexible (although there is still a long road to have full fidelity between the two). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Culver Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:55 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch Interesting. Which of the two is "better"? Is there a performance tradeoff turning it on or off with COM objects which do or do not implement IDispatch? Thanks, -Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dino Viehland Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:56 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch This enables using new support for COM objects that uses COM's IDispatch interface instead of trying to get a TypeInfo for the object and use that to invoke it. With it enabled we'll first check for IDispatch then to see if we can get the TypeInfo, w/o it we'll check for the TypeInfo (via IProvideClassInfo or via IDispatch) and then try IDispatch if that fails. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:35 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch Hi, Can anyone eleaborate a bit more on the -X:PreferComDispatch option? Does it mean extended support for standard libraries? What does the prefer part stand for as in prefer com over what? BR Martin ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch
Interesting. Which of the two is "better"? Is there a performance tradeoff turning it on or off with COM objects which do or do not implement IDispatch? Thanks, -Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dino Viehland Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:56 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch This enables using new support for COM objects that uses COM's IDispatch interface instead of trying to get a TypeInfo for the object and use that to invoke it. With it enabled we'll first check for IDispatch then to see if we can get the TypeInfo, w/o it we'll check for the TypeInfo (via IProvideClassInfo or via IDispatch) and then try IDispatch if that fails. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:35 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch Hi, Can anyone eleaborate a bit more on the -X:PreferComDispatch option? Does it mean extended support for standard libraries? What does the prefer part stand for as in prefer com over what? BR Martin ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch
This enables using new support for COM objects that uses COM's IDispatch interface instead of trying to get a TypeInfo for the object and use that to invoke it. With it enabled we'll first check for IDispatch then to see if we can get the TypeInfo, w/o it we'll check for the TypeInfo (via IProvideClassInfo or via IDispatch) and then try IDispatch if that fails. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:35 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch Hi, Can anyone eleaborate a bit more on the -X:PreferComDispatch option? Does it mean extended support for standard libraries? What does the prefer part stand for as in prefer com over what? BR Martin ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
[IronPython] -X:PreferComDispatch
Hi, Can anyone eleaborate a bit more on the -X:PreferComDispatch option? Does it mean extended support for standard libraries? What does the prefer part stand for as in prefer com over what? BR Martin ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
