[IronPython] IronPython IDE
Recently there was some discussion about which IDE's people were using for programming in IronPython. I apologize if this is already well-known or if it has been mentioned before but I wanted to share a discovery that I made today. I use Eclipse ( http://www.eclipse.org/ ) and PyDev ( http://www.fabioz.com/pydev/ ) for my CPython programming and until Beta4, I was unable to use this setup for IronPython. It was either an update to PyDev or the Beta4 of IronPython that gave me the ability to use IronPythonConsole.exe as my Python interpreter. If you were running into the trouble that I had run into, you should update PyDev and try using Eclipse as your IDE.Code completion is a bit laggy at times and you may end up just turning it off. But all in all, IronPython in Eclipse is an enjoyable experience. -- Ray Vernagus ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
[IronPython] IronPython IDE
Giles Thomas wrote: > Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing > configuration file, but if there's anything better out there The Zeus for Windows IDE comes with support for Python: http://www.zeusedit.com/features.html To make it work with Iron Python files just add the file extension to the Python document type using the Options Document Types menu. NOTE: Zeus is shareware and offers a 45 day fully functional trial period. Jussi Jumppanen Author of: Zeus for Windows ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
> If you build the IronPython project (something like > C:\Program Files\Visual > Studio 2005 > SDK\2005.12\VisualStudioIntegration\Samples\IronPythonIntegrat > ion\Project\Py > thonProject.sln) in VS 2005 (started from the experimental > hive link in the > vsip menu) it automatically registers the IronPython Extension. You can build the projects under the "normal" Visual Studio hive (aka "retail"). The projects register their packages under the experimental hive for development/debugging purposes -- so you can wipe the experimental hive and get back to a known-good state. Eventually, you'll be able to run an installer for just the IronPython integration and not have to build from source. sig://boB http://bobs.org ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Actually, you should build all four projects under integration. If you reset the experimental hive, you need to be patient, since it'll take a while. Also, I was bit by a RTM bug -- sometimes you'll see just "project" or just "web site" in the start page's create/open part. You need to use tools | import and export settings dialog to reset the settings -- I reset to general development. Doing that clearned things up. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Cartwright, Iain Sent: Wed 12/14/2005 3:48 PM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE If you build the IronPython project (something like C:\Program Files\Visual Studio 2005 SDK\2005.12\VisualStudioIntegration\Samples\IronPythonIntegration\Project\Py thonProject.sln) in VS 2005 (started from the experimental hive link in the vsip menu) it automatically registers the IronPython Extension. Just re-start VS 2005 (again using the experimental hive) and you will be able to create a new IronPython project. That's as far as I have got. <>___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
If you build the IronPython project (something like C:\Program Files\Visual Studio 2005 SDK\2005.12\VisualStudioIntegration\Samples\IronPythonIntegration\Project\Py thonProject.sln) in VS 2005 (started from the experimental hive link in the vsip menu) it automatically registers the IronPython Extension. Just re-start VS 2005 (again using the experimental hive) and you will be able to create a new IronPython project. That's as far as I have got. iain -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Smith Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2005 6:35 PM To: 'Discussion of IronPython' Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE The problem appears to be with the passport integration. If you go to the main VSIP site, http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com, it'll make you sign up with a valid passport account and enter a bit more information. Then you'll be able to download the December CTP of the Visual Studio SDK. Once installed, however, it's anybody's guess as to how to actually get the IP integration. I can see the IP samples for MSBuild and the source editor, but I don't have any idea how to get VS to recognize those and let you build Python projects. If anyone has had success with the latter, please let me know. That said... pretty excited about IronPython 1.0 and VS.NET integration! Way to go Jim, Martin and Aaron. Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith J. Farmer Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:37 PM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE I noticed as much last night. - Keith J. Farmer // [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Trimble Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:14 I'd like to check this out, but this URL doesn't seem to be working for me. It just sits for a while and times out. Anyone else having problems? ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
The problem appears to be with the passport integration. If you go to the main VSIP site, http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com, it'll make you sign up with a valid passport account and enter a bit more information. Then you'll be able to download the December CTP of the Visual Studio SDK. Once installed, however, it's anybody's guess as to how to actually get the IP integration. I can see the IP samples for MSBuild and the source editor, but I don't have any idea how to get VS to recognize those and let you build Python projects. If anyone has had success with the latter, please let me know. That said... pretty excited about IronPython 1.0 and VS.NET integration! Way to go Jim, Martin and Aaron. Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith J. Farmer Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:37 PM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE I noticed as much last night. - Keith J. Farmer // [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Trimble Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:14 I'd like to check this out, but this URL doesn't seem to be working for me. It just sits for a while and times out. Anyone else having problems? ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Many thanks, Aaron - I have it working now. Giles Aaron Marten wrote: > Hi Giles > You'll need to build the various projects that get installed to > "Program Files\Visual Studio 2005 > SDK\2005.12\VisualStudioIntegration\Samples\IronPythonIntegration". > > Merely building them will also register them in the Visual > Studio "experimental hive". The idea is that while you're writing a > package for Visual Studio, you don't want to potentially mess up your > installed version, so we create a copy of all the settings and have you > work inside the "experimental" copy. > > In order to run VS under this experimental mode, you can use the > shortcut that is installed with the Visual Studio SDK on the Start Menu, > or run "devenv /rootsuffix Exp" from a VS Command Prompt. > > Again, I would stress that this is a very early preview of what > we're working on. It will be in a more usable state in our next preview > release (probably late Jan 2006). > > If you have more questions about the sample or Visual Studio > Extensibility, I would encourage you to check out our homepage and > discussion forum: > > Homepage: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/extend/ > Forum: > http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/showforum.aspx?forumid=57&siteid=1 > > Thanks, > Aaron > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giles Thomas > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:03 AM > To: Discussion of IronPython > Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE > > Hi Aaron, > > Thanks for the pointer. Is there any simple documentation on setting > this up once you've downloaded it? > > > Cheers, > > Giles > > > Aaron Marten wrote: > >>Hi Giles, >> I'm on the Visual Studio SDK team here at Microsoft. In >>co-operation with the IronPython team, we're currently working on >>integrating IronPython into Visual Studio as a sample to ship in our >>SDK. We've just released a CTP with the first version of this here: >> >> http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com/downloads/41/UserFileDownload.ashx >> >>I also blogged a bit about the Dec CTP release of the Visual Studio > > SDK > >>here: >>http://blogs.msdn.com/aaronmar/archive/2005/12/09/502202.aspx >> >>Note that right now, the integration code is in an incomplete state, > > but > >>we do have the beginnings of a project system and language service >>working. Note that right now, the integration is only available as a >>preview sample in the Visual Studio SDK, so you'll have to agree to > > our > >>license to get the code. >> >>Thanks! >> Aaron Marten (Microsoft) >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giles Thomas >>Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:34 AM >>To: Discussion of IronPython >>Subject: [IronPython] IronPython IDE >> >>Hi all, >> >>Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython > > code? > >>My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and > > I've > >>only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a >>good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. >> >>Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing >>configuration file, but if there's anything better out there - or if > > my > >>understanding wrt VS2005 is wrong - then I'd love to hear about it! >> >> >>Cheers, >> >>Giles >>___ >>users mailing list >>users@lists.ironpython.com >>http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com >>___ >>users mailing list >>users@lists.ironpython.com >>http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com -- Giles Thomas Managing Director Resolver Systems Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Hi Giles You'll need to build the various projects that get installed to "Program Files\Visual Studio 2005 SDK\2005.12\VisualStudioIntegration\Samples\IronPythonIntegration". Merely building them will also register them in the Visual Studio "experimental hive". The idea is that while you're writing a package for Visual Studio, you don't want to potentially mess up your installed version, so we create a copy of all the settings and have you work inside the "experimental" copy. In order to run VS under this experimental mode, you can use the shortcut that is installed with the Visual Studio SDK on the Start Menu, or run "devenv /rootsuffix Exp" from a VS Command Prompt. Again, I would stress that this is a very early preview of what we're working on. It will be in a more usable state in our next preview release (probably late Jan 2006). If you have more questions about the sample or Visual Studio Extensibility, I would encourage you to check out our homepage and discussion forum: Homepage: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/extend/ Forum: http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/showforum.aspx?forumid=57&siteid=1 Thanks, Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giles Thomas Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:03 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE Hi Aaron, Thanks for the pointer. Is there any simple documentation on setting this up once you've downloaded it? Cheers, Giles Aaron Marten wrote: > Hi Giles, > I'm on the Visual Studio SDK team here at Microsoft. In > co-operation with the IronPython team, we're currently working on > integrating IronPython into Visual Studio as a sample to ship in our > SDK. We've just released a CTP with the first version of this here: > > http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com/downloads/41/UserFileDownload.ashx > > I also blogged a bit about the Dec CTP release of the Visual Studio SDK > here: > http://blogs.msdn.com/aaronmar/archive/2005/12/09/502202.aspx > > Note that right now, the integration code is in an incomplete state, but > we do have the beginnings of a project system and language service > working. Note that right now, the integration is only available as a > preview sample in the Visual Studio SDK, so you'll have to agree to our > license to get the code. > > Thanks! > Aaron Marten (Microsoft) > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giles Thomas > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:34 AM > To: Discussion of IronPython > Subject: [IronPython] IronPython IDE > > Hi all, > > Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython code? > > My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and I've > > only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a > good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. > > Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing > configuration file, but if there's anything better out there - or if my > understanding wrt VS2005 is wrong - then I'd love to hear about it! > > > Cheers, > > Giles > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Hi Aaron, Thanks for the pointer. Is there any simple documentation on setting this up once you've downloaded it? Cheers, Giles Aaron Marten wrote: > Hi Giles, > I'm on the Visual Studio SDK team here at Microsoft. In > co-operation with the IronPython team, we're currently working on > integrating IronPython into Visual Studio as a sample to ship in our > SDK. We've just released a CTP with the first version of this here: > > http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com/downloads/41/UserFileDownload.ashx > > I also blogged a bit about the Dec CTP release of the Visual Studio SDK > here: > http://blogs.msdn.com/aaronmar/archive/2005/12/09/502202.aspx > > Note that right now, the integration code is in an incomplete state, but > we do have the beginnings of a project system and language service > working. Note that right now, the integration is only available as a > preview sample in the Visual Studio SDK, so you'll have to agree to our > license to get the code. > > Thanks! > Aaron Marten (Microsoft) > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giles Thomas > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:34 AM > To: Discussion of IronPython > Subject: [IronPython] IronPython IDE > > Hi all, > > Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython code? > > My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and I've > > only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a > good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. > > Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing > configuration file, but if there's anything better out there - or if my > understanding wrt VS2005 is wrong - then I'd love to hear about it! > > > Cheers, > > Giles > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
It's working now -- it wasn't a browser issue. - Keith J. Farmer // [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hank Fay Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:40 To: 'Discussion of IronPython' Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE Works for me in Firefox. ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Works for me in Firefox. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Trimble Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:14 PM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE On 12/9/05, Aaron Marten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Giles, >I'm on the Visual Studio SDK team here at Microsoft. In > co-operation with the IronPython team, we're currently working on > integrating IronPython into Visual Studio as a sample to ship in our > SDK. We've just released a CTP with the first version of this here: > > http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com/downloads/41/UserFileDownload.ashx I'd like to check this out, but this URL doesn't seem to be working for me. It just sits for a while and times out. Anyone else having problems? - Chris ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
I noticed as much last night. - Keith J. Farmer // [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Trimble Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:14 I'd like to check this out, but this URL doesn't seem to be working for me. It just sits for a while and times out. Anyone else having problems? ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
On 12/9/05, Aaron Marten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Giles, >I'm on the Visual Studio SDK team here at Microsoft. In > co-operation with the IronPython team, we're currently working on > integrating IronPython into Visual Studio as a sample to ship in our > SDK. We've just released a CTP with the first version of this here: > > http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com/downloads/41/UserFileDownload.ashx I'd like to check this out, but this URL doesn't seem to be working for me. It just sits for a while and times out. Anyone else having problems? - Chris ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Giles Thomas wrote: > Hi all, > > Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython code? emacs ;-) there is also an ironpython plugin for monodevelop, in that project's svn repository. i believe it needs updating though to work the latest version of monodevlop svn repository anon access svn://svn.myrealbox.com/source/trunk/monodevelop another option might be extending the pydev extension for eclipse which already has support for both cpython and jython. http://pydev.sourceforge.net/ > > My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and I've > only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a > good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. i'm not sure how viable it is, but activestate's python plugin for visual studio might be useful, although the code completion/introspection might be broken with ironpython, it should still give proper syntax highlighting. http://www.activestate.com/Products/Visual_Python/?mp=1 cheers, kapil ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Hi Giles, I'm on the Visual Studio SDK team here at Microsoft. In co-operation with the IronPython team, we're currently working on integrating IronPython into Visual Studio as a sample to ship in our SDK. We've just released a CTP with the first version of this here: http://affiliate.vsipmembers.com/downloads/41/UserFileDownload.ashx I also blogged a bit about the Dec CTP release of the Visual Studio SDK here: http://blogs.msdn.com/aaronmar/archive/2005/12/09/502202.aspx Note that right now, the integration code is in an incomplete state, but we do have the beginnings of a project system and language service working. Note that right now, the integration is only available as a preview sample in the Visual Studio SDK, so you'll have to agree to our license to get the code. Thanks! Aaron Marten (Microsoft) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giles Thomas Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:34 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] IronPython IDE Hi all, Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython code? My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and I've only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing configuration file, but if there's anything better out there - or if my understanding wrt VS2005 is wrong - then I'd love to hear about it! Cheers, Giles ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
The Visual IL project is now available for download as source from GotDotNet -- someone could take a look at how that is put together and (with the VSIP package from Microsoft) put together their own VS2k5 package for Python. <>___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] IronPython IDE
Giles Thomas wrote: > Hi all, > > Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython code? > > My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and I've > only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a > good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. Vim is great. WingIDE is very nice, and comes with fully integrated python highlighting and completion. > > Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing > configuration file, but if there's anything better out there - or if my > understanding wrt VS2005 is wrong - then I'd love to hear about it! > > > Cheers, > > Giles > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com > > -- - Stanislas Pinte e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ERTMS Solutions http://www.ertmssolutions.com Rue de l'Autonomie, 1 Tel:+ 322 - 522.06.63 1070Bruxelles Fax: + 322 - 522.09.30 - ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
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You can try this: http://www.magna-capital.com/Articles/PythonIDE.html I wrote it for my personal use, so I can't guarantee anything and there's no help manual (yet). Feel free to try it out and use it if you like. --Thane > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giles Thomas > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:34 PM > To: Discussion of IronPython > Subject: [IronPython] IronPython IDE > > Hi all, > > Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython code? > > My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and I've > only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a > good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. > > Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing > configuration file, but if there's anything better out there - or if my > understanding wrt VS2005 is wrong - then I'd love to hear about it! > > > Cheers, > > Giles > ___ > users mailing list > users@lists.ironpython.com > http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
[IronPython] IronPython IDE
Hi all, Another question - what are people using to edit/debug IronPython code? My most recent projects have all been with Java using IntelliJ, and I've only just moved over to .NET. I'm told that Visual Studio 2005 is a good IDE - but it appears that it only supports C# and Visual Basic. Right now I'm using TextPad with a Python syntax highlighing configuration file, but if there's anything better out there - or if my understanding wrt VS2005 is wrong - then I'd love to hear about it! Cheers, Giles ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com