[Pw_forum] About the difference between the energy obtained from geometry optimization and single energy calculation.

2010-12-24 Thread Hongsheng Zhao
Dear PWSCF users,

The geometry optimization can give the minimal energy of our system. What's the 
difference between the energy obtained from geometry optimization and the 
single energy calculation?

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School of Physics and Electrical Information Science, 
Ningxia University, Yinchuan 750021, China
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2010-12-24

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[Pw_forum] Merry Christmas

2010-12-24 Thread jiayudai
Mearry Christmas to every body.

Good luck for us!




[Pw_forum] ion_radius

2010-12-24 Thread Riping WANG
Dear Forum,

I am using espresso-4.2.1.
In example18, for cp.x practice. I found the  " ion_radius(1) and
ion_radius(2) " in the input file.
Could you please tell me something about this input parameter, and how to
set?

as following:
 
ion_dynamics='verlet' ,
ion_temperature='nose' ,
tempw = .2 ,
fnosep = 250 ,
ion_radius(1) = 1.0 ,
ion_radius(2) = 1.0 ,

I can not find any explanation about ion_radius from espresso manual.

Thanks very much.

WANG Riping
2010.12.24

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[Pw_forum] how does the calculation scales with number of processors

2010-12-24 Thread mohnish pandey
Thanks a lot Dr. Stefano for your reply.

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Stefano de Gironcoli wrote:

> It strongly depends on the particular calculation and on the
> parallelization strategy you choose. Linear scaling would be the ideal
> scaling which you never get.
> The things to keep in mind are  load balancing  and  communication
> overhead. This last is affected by your communication network latency
> and  bandwidth ... As a general rule the bigger the calculation the
> easier is to scale.
> It may be useful to have a look at the final timing summary of a
> calculation to see the fraction of time spent in communication (FFT
> scatter/gather and reduce operations) compared with the total wall clock
> time for your system and how this changes for different settings.
> Another factor to keep in mind is RAM memory as with certain
> parallelization strategies you can trade some speed with increased memory.
>
> stefano
>
> mohnish pandey wrote:
> > Dear QE users,
> >  I am trying to see how the runtime scales with
> > number of processors. I did the same calculation using one node with
> eight
> > processors on one cluster and 8 nodes with total 56 processors on other
> > cluster but the time does not seem to scale linearly with the number of
> > processors. Can anybody give me an idea how does the time scale with
> number
> > of processors.
> > Thanks a lot in advance.
> >
> >
> > 
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[Pw_forum] how does the calculation scales with number of processors

2010-12-24 Thread mohnish pandey
Dear QE users,
 I am trying to see how the runtime scales with
number of processors. I did the same calculation using one node with eight
processors on one cluster and 8 nodes with total 56 processors on other
cluster but the time does not seem to scale linearly with the number of
processors. Can anybody give me an idea how does the time scale with number
of processors.
Thanks a lot in advance.

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Y6927262,5th Year dual degree student,
Department of Chemical Engineering,
IIT KANPUR, UP, INDIA
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[Pw_forum] how does the calculation scales with number of processors

2010-12-24 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On Dec 24, 2010, at 10:42 , mohnish pandey wrote:

>  Can anybody give me an idea how does the time scale with number of  
> processors.

please see the user guide in particular chapter 3:
http://www.quantum-espresso.org/user_guide/node15.html
and this, in particular the "(Too) Frequently Asked Question"
http://www.fisica.uniud.it/~giannozz/QE-Tutorial/

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[Pw_forum] how does the calculation scales with number of processors

2010-12-24 Thread Stefano de Gironcoli
It strongly depends on the particular calculation and on the 
parallelization strategy you choose. Linear scaling would be the ideal 
scaling which you never get.
The things to keep in mind are  load balancing  and  communication 
overhead. This last is affected by your communication network latency 
and  bandwidth ... As a general rule the bigger the calculation the 
easier is to scale.
It may be useful to have a look at the final timing summary of a 
calculation to see the fraction of time spent in communication (FFT 
scatter/gather and reduce operations) compared with the total wall clock 
time for your system and how this changes for different settings.
Another factor to keep in mind is RAM memory as with certain 
parallelization strategies you can trade some speed with increased memory.

stefano

mohnish pandey wrote:
> Dear QE users,
>  I am trying to see how the runtime scales with
> number of processors. I did the same calculation using one node with eight
> processors on one cluster and 8 nodes with total 56 processors on other
> cluster but the time does not seem to scale linearly with the number of
> processors. Can anybody give me an idea how does the time scale with number
> of processors.
> Thanks a lot in advance.
>
>   
> 
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[Pw_forum] ion_radius

2010-12-24 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:56 , Riping WANG wrote:

> In example18, for cp.x practice. I found the  " ion_radius(1)  
> and ion_radius(2) " in the input file.
> Could you please tell me something about this input parameter, and  
> how to set?

usuallly you do not need to set it: the default value should be fine.
ion_radius is the width of a gaussian distribution of charge replacing
the point charge of the (pseudo-)nucleus. It should be big enough
to ensure convergence of the total energy in G-space, small enough
to yield negligible overlap between gaussians. Valus around 0.8 are
usually fine. The total energy and forces should not change if
ion_radius changes.

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Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222