[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-13 Thread Huiqun Zhou
Wow, what a "home computer"! Moor's law hadn't been invented 
at that time, right? :-)

Are there any copyright issue to prevent me from using it in my 
presentation about "concise history of personal computer"?

Thanks for sharing the precious picture with us!

Huiqun Zhou
@Earth Sciences, Nanjing University, China

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> 
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:58 , Nicola Marzari wrote:
> 
>>> I am old enough to have seen card punchers in action, so the term
>>> "abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger people don't
>>> know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end", on IBM mainframes...
>>
>> What's a mainframe ? Is it like a really, really big ipod ?
> 
> do you remember the picture of the "home computer
> in 2004" you sent me some time ago ?
> http://www.fisica.uniud.it/~giannozz/public/pc2004.jpg
> :-)
> 
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-13 Thread Stefano Baroni
happily enough, different people have a different sense of humor!
i enjoyed very much this thread.
best wishes to you all
S.

On Dec 13, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Marcel Mohr wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Huiqun Zhou wrote:
>
>> Wow, what a "home computer"! Moor's law hadn't been invented
>> at that time, right? :-)
>> Are there any copyright issue to prevent me from using it in my
>> presentation about "concise history of personal computer"?
>
> Although I liked it very much, too. I showed it to a colleague and  
> he told
> me it is fake.
>
> It is a picture of a sumbarine control station see
> http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/computer.asp
>
> Sorry for being the spoiler
> Marcel
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the precious picture with us!
>>
>> Huiqun Zhou
>> @Earth Sciences, Nanjing University, China
>>
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: "Paolo Giannozzi" 
>> To: "PWSCF Forum" 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:58 , Nicola Marzari wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I am old enough to have seen card punchers in action, so the term
>>>>> "abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger people don't
>>>>> know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end", on IBM  
>>>>> mainframes...
>>>>
>>>> What's a mainframe ? Is it like a really, really big ipod ?
>>>
>>> do you remember the picture of the "home computer
>>> in 2004" you sent me some time ago ?
>>> http://www.fisica.uniud.it/~giannozz/public/pc2004.jpg
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> P.
>>> ---
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>>> Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-13 Thread Marcel Mohr
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Huiqun Zhou wrote:

> Wow, what a "home computer"! Moor's law hadn't been invented
> at that time, right? :-)
> Are there any copyright issue to prevent me from using it in my
> presentation about "concise history of personal computer"?

Although I liked it very much, too. I showed it to a colleague and he told 
me it is fake.

It is a picture of a sumbarine control station see 
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/computer.asp

Sorry for being the spoiler
Marcel



>
>
> Thanks for sharing the precious picture with us!
>
> Huiqun Zhou
> @Earth Sciences, Nanjing University, China
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paolo Giannozzi" 
> To: "PWSCF Forum" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals
>
>
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:58 , Nicola Marzari wrote:
>>
>>>> I am old enough to have seen card punchers in action, so the term
>>>> "abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger people don't
>>>> know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end", on IBM mainframes...
>>>
>>> What's a mainframe ? Is it like a really, really big ipod ?
>>
>> do you remember the picture of the "home computer
>> in 2004" you sent me some time ago ?
>> http://www.fisica.uniud.it/~giannozz/public/pc2004.jpg
>> :-)
>>
>> P.
>> ---
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>> via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy
>> Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-13 Thread Paul M. Grant
Paolo, I'm sure I'm older than you!

You're absolutely right.  Abend was coined by the designers of the IBM 701.
Mean time to failure on the early prototypes of that machine was only about
three hours.

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Principal, W2AGZ Technologies
Visiting Scholar, Applied Physics, Stanford University
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IBM Research Staff Member Emeritus
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On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:32 , Paul M. Grant wrote:

> And sure enough, if you?re dumb and try anyway, it abends with a  
> read error
>

I am old enough to have seen card punchers in action, so the term
"abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger people don't
know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end", on IBM mainframes...

Paolo
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-12 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:58 , Nicola Marzari wrote:

>> I am old enough to have seen card punchers in action, so the term
>> "abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger people don't
>> know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end", on IBM mainframes...
>
> What's a mainframe ? Is it like a really, really big ipod ?

do you remember the picture of the "home computer
in 2004" you sent me some time ago ?
http://www.fisica.uniud.it/~giannozz/public/pc2004.jpg
:-)

P.
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-12 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:32 , Paul M. Grant wrote:

> And sure enough, if you?re dumb and try anyway, it abends with a  
> read error
>

I am old enough to have seen card punchers in action, so the term
"abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger people don't
know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end", on IBM mainframes...

Paolo
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-12 Thread Nicola Marzari
Paolo Giannozzi wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:32 , Paul M. Grant wrote:
> 
>> And sure enough, if you?re dumb and try anyway, it abends with a  
>> read error
>>
> 
> I am old enough to have seen card punchers in action, so the term
> "abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger people don't
> know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end", on IBM mainframes...


What's a mainframe ? Is it like a really, really big ipod ?

nicola


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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-12 Thread Eyvaz Isaev
Dear Paul,

I have just found the last version of the file. So,
let me to do some tests before sending it to you, and
the community.

Bests,
Eyvaz.

--- "Paul M. Grant"  wrote:

> To All (especially Eyvaz Isaev!):
> 
> When I look at the source code for bands_FS, it
> seems unlikely that the
> program will handle a spin-polarized metallic band
> structure (e.g., Ni.I
> notice in Example 8, that its band structure is
> "unpolarized" before
> applying bands_FS.x).  And sure enough, if you're
> dumb and try anyway, it
> abends with a read error, probably because there's
> twice the number of
> k-points out there that it expects.
> 
> If anyone out there wants to extend (or has
> extended) Eyvaz' code, I'd be a
> willing alpha-tester.  
> 
> Paul M. Grant, PhD
> Principal, W2AGZ Technologies
> Visiting Scholar, Applied Physics, Stanford
> University
> EPRI Science Fellow (Retired)
> IBM Research Staff Member Emeritus
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-12 Thread Eyvaz Isaev
Wow! So nice picture!
Well, if one can differentite it there will be lots of
i-Pods.

Bests,
Eyvaz.

--- Paolo Giannozzi  wrote:

> 
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 21:58 , Nicola Marzari wrote:
> 
> >> I am old enough to have seen card punchers in
> action, so the term
> >> "abend" is not unknown to me, but I guess younger
> people don't
> >> know that it is a shorthand for "abnormal end",
> on IBM mainframes...
> >
> > What's a mainframe ? Is it like a really, really
> big ipod ?
> 
> do you remember the picture of the "home computer
> in 2004" you sent me some time ago ?
>
http://www.fisica.uniud.it/~giannozz/public/pc2004.jpg
> :-)
> 
> P.
> ---
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> Udine
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-12 Thread Eyvaz Isaev
Hi Paul,

Actually I have a version for spin-polarized bands,
and  can replace the code. Please wait just a few days
(to test it again), and we can plot spin-polarized FS.
 

Very bests,
Eyvaz. 

--- "Paul M. Grant"  wrote:

> To All (especially Eyvaz Isaev!):
> 
> When I look at the source code for bands_FS, it
> seems unlikely that the
> program will handle a spin-polarized metallic band
> structure (e.g., Ni.I
> notice in Example 8, that its band structure is
> "unpolarized" before
> applying bands_FS.x).  And sure enough, if you're
> dumb and try anyway, it
> abends with a read error, probably because there's
> twice the number of
> k-points out there that it expects.
> 
> If anyone out there wants to extend (or has
> extended) Eyvaz' code, I'd be a
> willing alpha-tester.  
> 
> Paul M. Grant, PhD
> Principal, W2AGZ Technologies
> Visiting Scholar, Applied Physics, Stanford
> University
> EPRI Science Fellow (Retired)
> IBM Research Staff Member Emeritus
> w2agz at pacbell.net
> http://www.w2agz.com
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[Pw_forum] bands_FS.x and spin polarized metals

2007-12-12 Thread Paul M. Grant
To All (especially Eyvaz Isaev!):

When I look at the source code for bands_FS, it seems unlikely that the
program will handle a spin-polarized metallic band structure (e.g., Ni.I
notice in Example 8, that its band structure is "unpolarized" before
applying bands_FS.x).  And sure enough, if you're dumb and try anyway, it
abends with a read error, probably because there's twice the number of
k-points out there that it expects.

If anyone out there wants to extend (or has extended) Eyvaz' code, I'd be a
willing alpha-tester.  

Paul M. Grant, PhD
Principal, W2AGZ Technologies
Visiting Scholar, Applied Physics, Stanford University
EPRI Science Fellow (Retired)
IBM Research Staff Member Emeritus
w2agz at pacbell.net
http://www.w2agz.com
 
 


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