[Pw_forum] problem about pp.x: namelist plot not found or invalid
Thank you very much for your patient. since the bash script was a little bit complex, the careless and low level error occurred. Next time, I will check my input more carefully. -- GAO Zhe CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea At 2011-11-15 19:50:18,"Guido Fratesi" wrote: >No, the order within the namelist is not important, but you solved the >problem by correctly typing the variable names. >GF > >Il 11/15/2011 12:47 PM, GAO Zhe ha scritto: >> Oh, I am sorry to bother~ I have found the problem. >> This problem occurred when filepp(i) have not been written together, i.e.: >> filepp(1) >> filepp(2) >> >> filepp(max) >> weight(1) >> weight(2) >> >> weight(max) >> is the only right way to create the input file. >> >> >> At 2011-11-15 19:29:46,"GAO Zhe" wrote: >> >> Dear QE developer and users: >> Hi >> I am using pp.x to generate the charge density file on certain >> surface. The work for namelist, , worked very well. >> However, when I wanna summary the results from to xcrysden >> file, the error occurred: >> chdens, namelist plot not found or invalid, exiting >> Actually, I changed chdens.f90 a little bit on INTEGER, PARAMETER :: >> nfilemax = 30, but I do not think this is the reason to meet such a >> problem~ Since if I create a short input file by PWGUI, then it >> works well. However, even if the short one created by myself, the >> same error happened. >> Now, I need to summary more than 20 |psi|^2files due to the density >> k-points mesh, so it is impossible to build the input file via >> PWGUI's help. >> I checked chdens.f90, again, but I cannot understand the meaning of >> error~ >> Any suggetstion will be welcome. >> P.S.: This is my input file (the file have generated in the >> previous steps) : >> >> / >> >> nfile = 27 , >> filpp(1) = 'CD_1.dat' , >> weight(1) = 0.016 , >> filpp(2) = 'CD_2.dat' , >> weight(2) = 0.032 , >> filpp(3) = 'CD_3.dat' , >> weight(3) = 0.032 , >> filpp(4) = 'CD_4.dat' , >> weight(4) = 0.032 , >> filpp(5) = 'CD_5.dat' , >> weight(5) = 0.064 , >> filpp(6) = 'CD_6.dat' , >> weight(6) = 0.064 , >> filpp(7) = 'CD_7.dat' , >> weight(7) = 0.032 , >> filpp(8) = 'CD_8.dat' , >> weight(8) = 0.064 , >> filpp(9) = 'CD_9.dat' , >> weight(9) = 0.064 , >> filpp(10) = 'CD_10.dat' , >> weight(10) = 0.032 , >> filpp(11) = 'CD_11.dat' , >> weight(11) = 0.064 , >> filpp(12) = 'CD_12.dat' , >> weight(12) = 0.064 , >> filpp(13) = 'CD_13.dat' , >> weight(13) = 0.064 , >> filpp(14) = 'CD_14.dat' , >> weight(14) = 0.128 , >> filpp(15) = 'CD_15.dat' , >> weight(15) = 0.128 , >> filpp(16) = 'CD_16.dat' , >> weight(16) = 0.064 , >> filpp(17) = 'CD_17.dat' , >> weight(17) = 0.128 , >> filpp(18) = 'CD_18.dat' , >> weight(18) = 0.128 , >> filpp(19) = 'CD_19.dat' , >> weight(19) = 0.032 , >> filpp(20) = 'CD_20.dat' , >> weight(20) = 0.064 , >> filpp(21) = 'CD_21.dat' , >> weight(21) = 0.064 , >> filpp(22) = 'CD_22.dat' , >> weight(22) = 0.064 , >> filpp(23) = 'CD_23.dat' , >> weight(23) = 0.128 , >> filpp(24) = 'CD_24.dat' , >> weight(24) = 0.128 , >> filpp(25) = 'CD_25.dat' , >> weight(25) = 0.064 , >> filpp(26) = 'CD_26.dat' , >> weight(26) = 0.128 , >> filpp(27) = 'CD_27.dat' , >> weight(27) = 0.128 , >> fileout = 'CDresult.xsf' , >> iflag = 2 , >> output_format = 3 , >> e1(1) = 2.0, >> e1(2) = 0.0, >> e1(3) = 0.0, >> e2(1) = 0.0, >> e2(2) = 2.0, >> e2(3) = 0.0, >> x0(1) = 0.0, >> x0(2) = 0.0, >> x0(3) = 0.0, >> nx = 45 , >> ny = 45 , >> / >> >> >> >> -- >> GAO Zhe >> CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pw_forum mailing list >> Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum > >-- >Guido Fratesi > >Dipartimento di Scienza dei Materiali >Universita` degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca >via Cozzi 53, 20125 Milano, Italy >___ >Pw_forum mailing list >Pw_forum at pwscf.org >http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/2015/d2b65c9c/attachment.htm
[Pw_forum] problem about pp.x: namelist plot not found or invalid
I am sorry, this is my mistake, but I thing the order of filepp(i) and weight(i) could be another problem. At 2011-11-15 19:44:40,"Guido Fratesi" wrote: >Dear Gao Zhe, >"filpp" should be "filepp", at least. >Guido > >Il 11/15/2011 12:29 PM, GAO Zhe ha scritto: >> Dear QE developer and users: >> Hi >> I am using pp.x to generate the charge density file on certain surface. >> The work for namelist, , worked very well. >> However, when I wanna summary the results from to xcrysden >> file, the error occurred: >> chdens, namelist plot not found or invalid, exiting >> Actually, I changed chdens.f90 a little bit on INTEGER, PARAMETER :: >> nfilemax = 30, but I do not think this is the reason to meet such a >> problem~ Since if I create a short input file by PWGUI, then it works >> well. However, even if the short one created by myself, the same error >> happened. >> Now, I need to summary more than 20 |psi|^2files due to the density >> k-points mesh, so it is impossible to build the input file via PWGUI's help. >> I checked chdens.f90, again, but I cannot understand the meaning of error~ >> Any suggetstion will be welcome. >> P.S.: This is my input file (the file have generated in the >> previous steps) : >> >> / >> >> nfile = 27 , >> filpp(1) = 'CD_1.dat' , >> weight(1) = 0.016 , >> filpp(2) = 'CD_2.dat' , >> weight(2) = 0.032 , >> filpp(3) = 'CD_3.dat' , >> weight(3) = 0.032 , >> filpp(4) = 'CD_4.dat' , >> weight(4) = 0.032 , >> filpp(5) = 'CD_5.dat' , >> weight(5) = 0.064 , >> filpp(6) = 'CD_6.dat' , >> weight(6) = 0.064 , >> filpp(7) = 'CD_7.dat' , >> weight(7) = 0.032 , >> filpp(8) = 'CD_8.dat' , >> weight(8) = 0.064 , >> filpp(9) = 'CD_9.dat' , >> weight(9) = 0.064 , >> filpp(10) = 'CD_10.dat' , >> weight(10) = 0.032 , >> filpp(11) = 'CD_11.dat' , >> weight(11) = 0.064 , >> filpp(12) = 'CD_12.dat' , >> weight(12) = 0.064 , >> filpp(13) = 'CD_13.dat' , >> weight(13) = 0.064 , >> filpp(14) = 'CD_14.dat' , >> weight(14) = 0.128 , >> filpp(15) = 'CD_15.dat' , >> weight(15) = 0.128 , >> filpp(16) = 'CD_16.dat' , >> weight(16) = 0.064 , >> filpp(17) = 'CD_17.dat' , >> weight(17) = 0.128 , >> filpp(18) = 'CD_18.dat' , >> weight(18) = 0.128 , >> filpp(19) = 'CD_19.dat' , >> weight(19) = 0.032 , >> filpp(20) = 'CD_20.dat' , >> weight(20) = 0.064 , >> filpp(21) = 'CD_21.dat' , >> weight(21) = 0.064 , >> filpp(22) = 'CD_22.dat' , >> weight(22) = 0.064 , >> filpp(23) = 'CD_23.dat' , >> weight(23) = 0.128 , >> filpp(24) = 'CD_24.dat' , >> weight(24) = 0.128 , >> filpp(25) = 'CD_25.dat' , >> weight(25) = 0.064 , >> filpp(26) = 'CD_26.dat' , >> weight(26) = 0.128 , >> filpp(27) = 'CD_27.dat' , >> weight(27) = 0.128 , >> fileout = 'CDresult.xsf' , >> iflag = 2 , >> output_format = 3 , >> e1(1) = 2.0, >> e1(2) = 0.0, >> e1(3) = 0.0, >> e2(1) = 0.0, >> e2(2) = 2.0, >> e2(3) = 0.0, >> x0(1) = 0.0, >> x0(2) = 0.0, >> x0(3) = 0.0, >> nx = 45 , >> ny = 45 , >> / >> >> >> >> -- >> GAO Zhe >> CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pw_forum mailing list >> Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum > >-- >Guido Fratesi > >Dipartimento di Scienza dei Materiali >Universita` degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca >via Cozzi 53, 20125 Milano, Italy >___ >Pw_forum mailing list >Pw_forum at pwscf.org >http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/2015/69f67b40/attachment-0001.htm
[Pw_forum] problem about pp.x: namelist plot not found or invalid
Oh, I am sorry to bother~ I have found the problem. This problem occurred when filepp(i) have not been written together, i.e.: filepp(1) filepp(2) filepp(max) weight(1) weight(2) weight(max) is the only right way to create the input file. At 2011-11-15 19:29:46,"GAO Zhe" wrote: Dear QE developer and users: Hi I am using pp.x to generate the charge density file on certain surface. The work for namelist, , worked very well. However, when I wanna summary the results from to xcrysden file, the error occurred: chdens, namelist plot not found or invalid, exiting Actually, I changed chdens.f90 a little bit on INTEGER, PARAMETER :: nfilemax = 30, but I do not think this is the reason to meet such a problem~ Since if I create a short input file by PWGUI, then it works well. However, even if the short one created by myself, the same error happened. Now, I need to summary more than 20 |psi|^2 files due to the density k-points mesh, so it is impossible to build the input file via PWGUI's help. I checked chdens.f90, again, but I cannot understand the meaning of error~ Any suggetstion will be welcome. P.S.: This is my input file (the file have generated in the previous steps) : / nfile = 27 , filpp(1) = 'CD_1.dat' , weight(1) = 0.016 , filpp(2) = 'CD_2.dat' , weight(2) = 0.032 , filpp(3) = 'CD_3.dat' , weight(3) = 0.032 , filpp(4) = 'CD_4.dat' , weight(4) = 0.032 , filpp(5) = 'CD_5.dat' , weight(5) = 0.064 , filpp(6) = 'CD_6.dat' , weight(6) = 0.064 , filpp(7) = 'CD_7.dat' , weight(7) = 0.032 , filpp(8) = 'CD_8.dat' , weight(8) = 0.064 , filpp(9) = 'CD_9.dat' , weight(9) = 0.064 , filpp(10) = 'CD_10.dat' , weight(10) = 0.032 , filpp(11) = 'CD_11.dat' , weight(11) = 0.064 , filpp(12) = 'CD_12.dat' , weight(12) = 0.064 , filpp(13) = 'CD_13.dat' , weight(13) = 0.064 , filpp(14) = 'CD_14.dat' , weight(14) = 0.128 , filpp(15) = 'CD_15.dat' , weight(15) = 0.128 , filpp(16) = 'CD_16.dat' , weight(16) = 0.064 , filpp(17) = 'CD_17.dat' , weight(17) = 0.128 , filpp(18) = 'CD_18.dat' , weight(18) = 0.128 , filpp(19) = 'CD_19.dat' , weight(19) = 0.032 , filpp(20) = 'CD_20.dat' , weight(20) = 0.064 , filpp(21) = 'CD_21.dat' , weight(21) = 0.064 , filpp(22) = 'CD_22.dat' , weight(22) = 0.064 , filpp(23) = 'CD_23.dat' , weight(23) = 0.128 , filpp(24) = 'CD_24.dat' , weight(24) = 0.128 , filpp(25) = 'CD_25.dat' , weight(25) = 0.064 , filpp(26) = 'CD_26.dat' , weight(26) = 0.128 , filpp(27) = 'CD_27.dat' , weight(27) = 0.128 , fileout = 'CDresult.xsf' , iflag = 2 , output_format = 3 , e1(1) = 2.0, e1(2) = 0.0, e1(3) = 0.0, e2(1) = 0.0, e2(2) = 2.0, e2(3) = 0.0, x0(1) = 0.0, x0(2) = 0.0, x0(3) = 0.0, nx = 45 , ny = 45 , / -- GAO Zhe CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/2015/5769bf63/attachment.htm
[Pw_forum] problem about pp.x: namelist plot not found or invalid
Dear QE developer and users: Hi I am using pp.x to generate the charge density file on certain surface. The work for namelist, , worked very well. However, when I wanna summary the results from to xcrysden file, the error occurred: chdens, namelist plot not found or invalid, exiting Actually, I changed chdens.f90 a little bit on INTEGER, PARAMETER :: nfilemax = 30, but I do not think this is the reason to meet such a problem~ Since if I create a short input file by PWGUI, then it works well. However, even if the short one created by myself, the same error happened. Now, I need to summary more than 20 |psi|^2 files due to the density k-points mesh, so it is impossible to build the input file via PWGUI's help. I checked chdens.f90, again, but I cannot understand the meaning of error~ Any suggetstion will be welcome. P.S.: This is my input file (the file have generated in the previous steps) : / nfile = 27 , filpp(1) = 'CD_1.dat' , weight(1) = 0.016 , filpp(2) = 'CD_2.dat' , weight(2) = 0.032 , filpp(3) = 'CD_3.dat' , weight(3) = 0.032 , filpp(4) = 'CD_4.dat' , weight(4) = 0.032 , filpp(5) = 'CD_5.dat' , weight(5) = 0.064 , filpp(6) = 'CD_6.dat' , weight(6) = 0.064 , filpp(7) = 'CD_7.dat' , weight(7) = 0.032 , filpp(8) = 'CD_8.dat' , weight(8) = 0.064 , filpp(9) = 'CD_9.dat' , weight(9) = 0.064 , filpp(10) = 'CD_10.dat' , weight(10) = 0.032 , filpp(11) = 'CD_11.dat' , weight(11) = 0.064 , filpp(12) = 'CD_12.dat' , weight(12) = 0.064 , filpp(13) = 'CD_13.dat' , weight(13) = 0.064 , filpp(14) = 'CD_14.dat' , weight(14) = 0.128 , filpp(15) = 'CD_15.dat' , weight(15) = 0.128 , filpp(16) = 'CD_16.dat' , weight(16) = 0.064 , filpp(17) = 'CD_17.dat' , weight(17) = 0.128 , filpp(18) = 'CD_18.dat' , weight(18) = 0.128 , filpp(19) = 'CD_19.dat' , weight(19) = 0.032 , filpp(20) = 'CD_20.dat' , weight(20) = 0.064 , filpp(21) = 'CD_21.dat' , weight(21) = 0.064 , filpp(22) = 'CD_22.dat' , weight(22) = 0.064 , filpp(23) = 'CD_23.dat' , weight(23) = 0.128 , filpp(24) = 'CD_24.dat' , weight(24) = 0.128 , filpp(25) = 'CD_25.dat' , weight(25) = 0.064 , filpp(26) = 'CD_26.dat' , weight(26) = 0.128 , filpp(27) = 'CD_27.dat' , weight(27) = 0.128 , fileout = 'CDresult.xsf' , iflag = 2 , output_format = 3 , e1(1) = 2.0, e1(2) = 0.0, e1(3) = 0.0, e2(1) = 0.0, e2(2) = 2.0, e2(3) = 0.0, x0(1) = 0.0, x0(2) = 0.0, x0(3) = 0.0, nx = 45 , ny = 45 , / -- GAO Zhe CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/2015/2b7315c2/attachment.htm
[Pw_forum] problem about pp.x: namelist plot not found or invalid
No, the order within the namelist is not important, but you solved the problem by correctly typing the variable names. GF Il 11/15/2011 12:47 PM, GAO Zhe ha scritto: > Oh, I am sorry to bother~ I have found the problem. > This problem occurred when filepp(i) have not been written together, i.e.: > filepp(1) > filepp(2) > > filepp(max) > weight(1) > weight(2) > > weight(max) > is the only right way to create the input file. > > > At 2011-11-15 19:29:46,"GAO Zhe" wrote: > > Dear QE developer and users: > Hi > I am using pp.x to generate the charge density file on certain > surface. The work for namelist, , worked very well. > However, when I wanna summary the results from to xcrysden > file, the error occurred: > chdens, namelist plot not found or invalid, exiting > Actually, I changed chdens.f90 a little bit on INTEGER, PARAMETER :: > nfilemax = 30, but I do not think this is the reason to meet such a > problem~ Since if I create a short input file by PWGUI, then it > works well. However, even if the short one created by myself, the > same error happened. > Now, I need to summary more than 20 |psi|^2files due to the density > k-points mesh, so it is impossible to build the input file via > PWGUI's help. > I checked chdens.f90, again, but I cannot understand the meaning of > error~ > Any suggetstion will be welcome. > P.S.: This is my input file (the file have generated in the > previous steps) : > > / > > nfile = 27 , > filpp(1) = 'CD_1.dat' , > weight(1) = 0.016 , > filpp(2) = 'CD_2.dat' , > weight(2) = 0.032 , > filpp(3) = 'CD_3.dat' , > weight(3) = 0.032 , > filpp(4) = 'CD_4.dat' , > weight(4) = 0.032 , > filpp(5) = 'CD_5.dat' , > weight(5) = 0.064 , > filpp(6) = 'CD_6.dat' , > weight(6) = 0.064 , > filpp(7) = 'CD_7.dat' , > weight(7) = 0.032 , > filpp(8) = 'CD_8.dat' , > weight(8) = 0.064 , > filpp(9) = 'CD_9.dat' , > weight(9) = 0.064 , > filpp(10) = 'CD_10.dat' , > weight(10) = 0.032 , > filpp(11) = 'CD_11.dat' , > weight(11) = 0.064 , > filpp(12) = 'CD_12.dat' , > weight(12) = 0.064 , > filpp(13) = 'CD_13.dat' , > weight(13) = 0.064 , > filpp(14) = 'CD_14.dat' , > weight(14) = 0.128 , > filpp(15) = 'CD_15.dat' , > weight(15) = 0.128 , > filpp(16) = 'CD_16.dat' , > weight(16) = 0.064 , > filpp(17) = 'CD_17.dat' , > weight(17) = 0.128 , > filpp(18) = 'CD_18.dat' , > weight(18) = 0.128 , > filpp(19) = 'CD_19.dat' , > weight(19) = 0.032 , > filpp(20) = 'CD_20.dat' , > weight(20) = 0.064 , > filpp(21) = 'CD_21.dat' , > weight(21) = 0.064 , > filpp(22) = 'CD_22.dat' , > weight(22) = 0.064 , > filpp(23) = 'CD_23.dat' , > weight(23) = 0.128 , > filpp(24) = 'CD_24.dat' , > weight(24) = 0.128 , > filpp(25) = 'CD_25.dat' , > weight(25) = 0.064 , > filpp(26) = 'CD_26.dat' , > weight(26) = 0.128 , > filpp(27) = 'CD_27.dat' , > weight(27) = 0.128 , > fileout = 'CDresult.xsf' , > iflag = 2 , > output_format = 3 , > e1(1) = 2.0, > e1(2) = 0.0, > e1(3) = 0.0, > e2(1) = 0.0, > e2(2) = 2.0, > e2(3) = 0.0, > x0(1) = 0.0, > x0(2) = 0.0, > x0(3) = 0.0, > nx = 45 , > ny = 45 , > / > > > > -- > GAO Zhe > CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea > > > > > > > ___ > Pw_forum mailing list > Pw_forum at pwscf.org > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum -- Guido Fratesi Dipartimento di Scienza dei Materiali Universita` degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca via Cozzi 53, 20125 Milano, Italy
[Pw_forum] problem about pp.x: namelist plot not found or invalid
Dear Gao Zhe, "filpp" should be "filepp", at least. Guido Il 11/15/2011 12:29 PM, GAO Zhe ha scritto: > Dear QE developer and users: > Hi > I am using pp.x to generate the charge density file on certain surface. > The work for namelist, , worked very well. > However, when I wanna summary the results from to xcrysden > file, the error occurred: > chdens, namelist plot not found or invalid, exiting > Actually, I changed chdens.f90 a little bit on INTEGER, PARAMETER :: > nfilemax = 30, but I do not think this is the reason to meet such a > problem~ Since if I create a short input file by PWGUI, then it works > well. However, even if the short one created by myself, the same error > happened. > Now, I need to summary more than 20 |psi|^2files due to the density > k-points mesh, so it is impossible to build the input file via PWGUI's help. > I checked chdens.f90, again, but I cannot understand the meaning of error~ > Any suggetstion will be welcome. > P.S.: This is my input file (the file have generated in the > previous steps) : > > / > > nfile = 27 , > filpp(1) = 'CD_1.dat' , > weight(1) = 0.016 , > filpp(2) = 'CD_2.dat' , > weight(2) = 0.032 , > filpp(3) = 'CD_3.dat' , > weight(3) = 0.032 , > filpp(4) = 'CD_4.dat' , > weight(4) = 0.032 , > filpp(5) = 'CD_5.dat' , > weight(5) = 0.064 , > filpp(6) = 'CD_6.dat' , > weight(6) = 0.064 , > filpp(7) = 'CD_7.dat' , > weight(7) = 0.032 , > filpp(8) = 'CD_8.dat' , > weight(8) = 0.064 , > filpp(9) = 'CD_9.dat' , > weight(9) = 0.064 , > filpp(10) = 'CD_10.dat' , > weight(10) = 0.032 , > filpp(11) = 'CD_11.dat' , > weight(11) = 0.064 , > filpp(12) = 'CD_12.dat' , > weight(12) = 0.064 , > filpp(13) = 'CD_13.dat' , > weight(13) = 0.064 , > filpp(14) = 'CD_14.dat' , > weight(14) = 0.128 , > filpp(15) = 'CD_15.dat' , > weight(15) = 0.128 , > filpp(16) = 'CD_16.dat' , > weight(16) = 0.064 , > filpp(17) = 'CD_17.dat' , > weight(17) = 0.128 , > filpp(18) = 'CD_18.dat' , > weight(18) = 0.128 , > filpp(19) = 'CD_19.dat' , > weight(19) = 0.032 , > filpp(20) = 'CD_20.dat' , > weight(20) = 0.064 , > filpp(21) = 'CD_21.dat' , > weight(21) = 0.064 , > filpp(22) = 'CD_22.dat' , > weight(22) = 0.064 , > filpp(23) = 'CD_23.dat' , > weight(23) = 0.128 , > filpp(24) = 'CD_24.dat' , > weight(24) = 0.128 , > filpp(25) = 'CD_25.dat' , > weight(25) = 0.064 , > filpp(26) = 'CD_26.dat' , > weight(26) = 0.128 , > filpp(27) = 'CD_27.dat' , > weight(27) = 0.128 , > fileout = 'CDresult.xsf' , > iflag = 2 , > output_format = 3 , > e1(1) = 2.0, > e1(2) = 0.0, > e1(3) = 0.0, > e2(1) = 0.0, > e2(2) = 2.0, > e2(3) = 0.0, > x0(1) = 0.0, > x0(2) = 0.0, > x0(3) = 0.0, > nx = 45 , > ny = 45 , > / > > > > -- > GAO Zhe > CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea > > > > > ___ > Pw_forum mailing list > Pw_forum at pwscf.org > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum -- Guido Fratesi Dipartimento di Scienza dei Materiali Universita` degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca via Cozzi 53, 20125 Milano, Italy