[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-16 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On Jan 16, 2012, at 19:06 , Ajit Vallabhaneni wrote:

>  Sorry i didnot understand your question.

I don' understand why you insist that something is not
working and don't provide any evidence.

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[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-16 Thread Ajit Vallabhaneni
Dr.Paolo,

 Sorry i didnot understand your question.

Thanks
Ajit


[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-16 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:50 , Ajit Vallabhaneni wrote:

> I observed that using a dense grid is not enough sometimes

you observed in which case?

P.
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[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-16 Thread Ajit Vallabhaneni
Dr. Paolo,

 Like in graphene, i used 60x60 mesh, but for some q-points it 
terminates with the message that "it is not a part of dense grid".
Should i increase the grid size even more? It is very expensive computationally 
though.

Thanks
Ajit


[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-15 Thread Nicola Marzari


Dear Peter,

also, there is an example in the qe distribution on how to calculate 
fermi energies via slab calculations - and there is extensive literature 
- e.g. the PhD thesis of Caspar Fall
http://library.epfl.ch/en/theses/?nr=1955 , or
Phys. Rev. B 80, 235407 (2009).


nicola


On 1/14/12 6:14 PM, Peter Wang wrote:
> if we do a bulk calculation, vacuum energy level can not be calculated,
> because in bulk, there is no vacuum. To calculate vacuum energy level and
> the relative energies in bulk with respect to vacuum energy level, a slab
> calculation should be done. In a slab calculation, several layer of
> materials as well as a vacuum with sufficient thinkness should be included
> in one unit cell.
>
> YP
>
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> From: Ajit Vallabhaneni
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:06 AM
> To: PWSCF Forum
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] query on fermi energy
>
> Yun-peng,
>
>   Thanks for your response. Is it possible to know what the vaccum
> energy level is ? I read in the FAQ that it cannot be calculated from the a
> bulk calculation alone.
>
>
> Thanks
> Ajit
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[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-15 Thread Ajit Vallabhaneni


   Any thoughts on my second question  regarding the e-ph calculation. 
For a give set of q and k points, what is the best way to ensure that all 
k+q points are available to avoid the message " q is not a vector in the 
dense grid" in the calculations"? I observed that using a dense grid is not 
enough sometimes. Do we have to check it outside of the quantum espresso 
before the calculation begins?
 
Thanks
Ajit


[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Wang
if we do a bulk calculation, vacuum energy level can not be calculated, 
because in bulk, there is no vacuum. To calculate vacuum energy level and 
the relative energies in bulk with respect to vacuum energy level, a slab 
calculation should be done. In a slab calculation, several layer of 
materials as well as a vacuum with sufficient thinkness should be included 
in one unit cell.

YP

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From: Ajit Vallabhaneni
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:06 AM
To: PWSCF Forum
Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

Yun-peng,

 Thanks for your response. Is it possible to know what the vaccum 
energy level is ? I read in the FAQ that it cannot be calculated from the a 
bulk calculation alone.


Thanks
Ajit
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[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-14 Thread Peter Wang
for the first question, there is no absolute Fermi energy. The only absolute 
energy is that substracting vacuum energy level from it.

best
Yun-Peng

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From: Ajit Vallabhaneni
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Subject: [Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

Dear users,

  1.  I was wondering how to calculate the absolute value of fermi 
energy for graphene single layer. By varying the size of the super cell in 
the out of plane direction, i observed that the total energy is constant 
indicating no  interactions in the out of plane direction, but the fermi 
energy is varying with increasing distance. I think it is the relative fermi 
energy which is output after the scf calculation. I want to know the 
absolute value.


   2.  Another question i have is regarding the e-ph calculation. 
For a give set of q and k points, what is the best way to ensure that all 
k+q points are available to avoid the message " q is not a vector in the 
dense grid" in the calculations"? I observed that using a dense grid is not 
enough sometimes. Do we have to check it outside of the quantum espresso 
before the calculation begins?


Thanks
Ajit
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[Pw_forum] query on fermi energy

2012-01-14 Thread Ajit Vallabhaneni
Dear users,

  1.  I was wondering how to calculate the absolute value of fermi 
energy for graphene single layer. By varying the size of the super cell in the 
out of plane direction, i observed that the total energy is constant indicating 
no  interactions in the out of plane direction, but the fermi energy is varying 
with increasing distance. I think it is the relative fermi energy which is 
output after the scf calculation. I want to know the absolute value. 

 
   2.  Another question i have is regarding the e-ph calculation. For a 
give set of q and k points, what is the best way to ensure that all k+q points 
are available to avoid the message " q is not a vector in the dense grid" in 
the calculations"? I observed that using a dense grid is not enough sometimes. 
Do we have to check it outside of the quantum espresso before the calculation 
begins? 


Thanks
Ajit