Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
huyfuo wrote:
> Hello, I'm Scientific Linux user.
> My apt says,

Apt or yum? I think there is no apt support (but I could be wrong).

>  --
> Get:1 http://apt.sw.be redhat/el6/en/i386/rpmforge/ primary.xml [1408kB]
> Get:2 http://apt.sw.be redhat/el6/en/i386/rpmforge/ filelists.xml [1376kB]

Those files do not exist. Corect path is 
http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/i386/rpmforge/repodata/ and there is only 
primary.xml.gz not primary.xml

Please use 
http://pkgs.repoforge.org/rpmforge-release/rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el6.rf.i686.rpm
 
or
http://pkgs.repoforge.org/rpmforge-release/rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
(from http://repoforge.org/use/) to use Repoforge (renamed RPMForge).


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Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-25 Thread huyfuo
2011/7/25 Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
> huyfuo wrote:
>> Hello, I'm Scientific Linux user.
>> My apt says,
>
> Apt or yum? I think there is no apt support (but I could be wrong).
I use apt-0.5.15lorg3.95-0.git416.6.

2011/7/25 huyfuo :
> http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/i386/rpmforge/repodata/
> [ ] filelists.xml.gz19-Jul-2011 02:51   1.3M
> [ ] other.xml.gz19-Jul-2011 02:51   391K
> [ ] primary.xml.gz  19-Jul-2011 02:51   1.3M
> [ ] repomd.xml  24-Jul-2011 02:50   1.0K
>
> Some files are old. Please fix.

I noticed that it was my misunderstanding.
I will try new version of apt. Thank you.
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Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
huyfuo wrote:
> 2011/7/25 Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
>> huyfuo wrote:
>>> Hello, I'm Scientific Linux user.
>>> My apt says,
>> Apt or yum? I think there is no apt support (but I could be wrong).
> I use apt-0.5.15lorg3.95-0.git416.6.
> 
> 2011/7/25 huyfuo :
>> http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/i386/rpmforge/repodata/
>> [ ] filelists.xml.gz19-Jul-2011 02:51   1.3M
>> [ ] other.xml.gz19-Jul-2011 02:51   391K
>> [ ] primary.xml.gz  19-Jul-2011 02:51   1.3M
>> [ ] repomd.xml  24-Jul-2011 02:50   1.0K
>>
>> Some files are old. Please fix.
> 
> I noticed that it was my misunderstanding.
> I will try new version of apt. Thank you.

But WHY do you use apt on OS that by default uses yum?

And be sure to download those release files to get latest repository 
organization and URI.

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Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-26 Thread huyfuo
2011/7/25 Ljubomir Ljubojevic :

>
> But WHY do you use apt on OS that by default uses yum?
>
There is no speacial reason. But yum is slow.

> And be sure to download those release files to get latest repository
> organization and URI.

I have already checked this package.
The problem was solved temporarily.
Thank you.
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Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-26 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
huyfuo wrote:
> 2011/7/25 Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
> 
>> But WHY do you use apt on OS that by default uses yum?
>>
> There is no speacial reason. But yum is slow.

How have you reached that conclusion? Please read this mail:
http://osdir.com/ml/centos-devel/2011-07/msg00200.html
It shows that yum with 18.300 packages will complete dependency check in 
max 1m 9sec (without cache). Have you performed quality test apt vs yum?

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Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-26 Thread Dag Wieers
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

> huyfuo wrote:
>> 2011/7/25 Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
>>
>>> But WHY do you use apt on OS that by default uses yum?
>>>
>> There is no speacial reason. But yum is slow.
>
> How have you reached that conclusion? Please read this mail:
> http://osdir.com/ml/centos-devel/2011-07/msg00200.html
> It shows that yum with 18.300 packages will complete dependency check in
> max 1m 9sec (without cache). Have you performed quality test apt vs yum?

Ljubomir,

The discussion is quite moot nowadays, but as a long-time user of both apt 
and yum, apt still beats the crap out of yum (both in memory usage, speed 
and cpu usage), however it is no longer maintained and therefor a dead-end.

One of the other reasons to be using apt, was that yum only started to be 
shipped with RHEL5, and most have (had) RHEL2, RHEL3 and RHEL4 systems 
around. up2date is something to be avoided, where possible...

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Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-26 Thread Jeff Johnson

On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> 
>> huyfuo wrote:
>>> 2011/7/25 Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
>>> 
 But WHY do you use apt on OS that by default uses yum?
 
>>> There is no speacial reason. But yum is slow.
>> 
>> How have you reached that conclusion? Please read this mail:
>> http://osdir.com/ml/centos-devel/2011-07/msg00200.html
>> It shows that yum with 18.300 packages will complete dependency check in
>> max 1m 9sec (without cache). Have you performed quality test apt vs yum?
> 
> Ljubomir,
> 
> The discussion is quite moot nowadays, but as a long-time user of both apt 
> and yum, apt still beats the crap out of yum (both in memory usage, speed 
> and cpu usage), however it is no longer maintained and therefor a dead-end.
> 

Just FYI: apt-rpm has been picked up and "maintained" at Caixa in the last year.
And bero -- one of the others who liked/used apt a lot and whose 
experiences/opinions
I listen to -- switched to zipper from apt-rpm. MeeGo and Poky/Yacto have also 
switched
to zypper, but its too early to tell whether zypper is/was a good idea there or 
not.

> One of the other reasons to be using apt, was that yum only started to be 
> shipped with RHEL5, and most have (had) RHEL2, RHEL3 and RHEL4 systems 
> around. up2date is something to be avoided, where possible…
> 

Yes zypper has legacy issues at least as bad as yum does.

73 de Jeff
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Re: [users] Some repodata fles are old.

2011-07-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Dag Wieers  wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>
>> huyfuo wrote:
>>> 2011/7/25 Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
>>>
 But WHY do you use apt on OS that by default uses yum?

>>> There is no speacial reason. But yum is slow.
>>
>> How have you reached that conclusion? Please read this mail:
>> http://osdir.com/ml/centos-devel/2011-07/msg00200.html
>> It shows that yum with 18.300 packages will complete dependency check in
>> max 1m 9sec (without cache). Have you performed quality test apt vs yum?
>
> Ljubomir,
>
> The discussion is quite moot nowadays, but as a long-time user of both apt
> and yum, apt still beats the crap out of yum (both in memory usage, speed
> and cpu usage), however it is no longer maintained and therefor a dead-end.
>
> One of the other reasons to be using apt, was that yum only started to be
> shipped with RHEL5, and most have (had) RHEL2, RHEL3 and RHEL4 systems
> around. up2date is something to be avoided, where possible...

[ This is especially for new RHEL users, not for you, Dag. ]

Good point. For some RHEL users, the yum packages available from
CentOS and now Scientific Linux can easily be turned to use with a
local RHEL mirror repository. I've been doing this stunt for years,
setting up a registered RHEL host to mirror Red Hat updates to a local
repository and using yum to that local repository to provide updates.
The relatively slow connection to Red Hat's central repositories, and
yum's somewhat overfrequent updates of its metadata, seem to be the
big problem, are resolved by this and yum becomes much more usable.
This allows me to put a stake through the heart of up2date and
yum-rhn-plugin, except on the licensed machine or machines that are
doing the mirroring. (I use one i386 and one x86_64 host to keep both
sets of channels updated locally.)

One has to be careful of licensing: the local repository should only
be accessible to internal, licensed machines, with the relevant
channels available only to appropriately licensed hosts. Do *NOT* make
this repository available to the Internet at large! I've caught
someone doing that, and Red Hat didn't have to yell at them, I got to
them first.
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