Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab-6.0.0 stopped working

[Pablo Fonovich]

Thanks,
I solved it updating too. Anyway, that version is the one with input command 
bugged. I wish i could use a nigthly build where that bug is fixed. Also, 
trying to download a nigthly build lead me to 404 http error.

El mar, 6 de feb 2018 a las 10:54 AM, Paul Onions  
escribió:
On 6 February 2018 at 13:25, Pablo Fonovich 
> wrote:
Hi, I also followed the steps in my Ubuntu 17.10 but it just keeps installing 
scilab 5.5.2. Am i doing something wrong?
I seem to remember doing a "sudo apt update" after step 2, before step 3. I 
also made sure I had removed the 5.5.2 release before trying this, just to make 
sure things didn't get confused. Though as shown in my last message I still 
managed to confuse myself a little bit by not removing the tarfile 6.0.0 
release I had lying around :-) Hope this helps, Paul 
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Re: [Scilab-users] Dump the output of a function

[Clément David]

Le mercredi 17 janvier 2018 à 20:36 +0100, Samuel Gougeon a écrit :
> Le 17/01/2018 à 20:26, Samuel Gougeon a écrit :
> > Le 17/01/2018 à 18:16, antoine monmayrant a écrit :
> > > Hello all, 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I might say something really stupid, but can't we define a special 
> > > variable like %eps, %i, etc
> > > to act as a black hole ? 
> > > Something like %null (like piping to /dev/null or a null pointer) or a 
> > > better name
> > > (%blackhole, %lostforever, %byebye, ;-) ). 
> > > The idea being that no memory is allocated when someone try to affect 
> > > some value to it: 
> > > 
> > > [%null,%null,kb] = intersect(grand(1,10,"uin",0,9), 
> > > grand(1,10,"uin",0,9)); 
> >  
> > A true black hole has even no name :)
> > Otherwise, the shorter the better, and "_" would be nice after deprecating 
> > _() (*).
> > 
> > Anyway, IMO this black hole feature has a very low priority compared to 
> > some other ones, like
> > some big regressions (bug 13808 = 14881, sparse() with repeated indices, 
> > etc etc) or some very
> > and longly expected ones like a varprot()...
> > 
> > Samuel
> > 
> > (*) it could be renamed something like _tr() (standing for translate).
> > The number of occurrences of _() to be converted in the Scilab native code 
> > is very important,
> > but the conversion might be automated (since the gettext() scanner has a 
> > reliable detection
> > criterium, and only .sci, .sce, .tst and .dia.ref files are targeted
>  
> sorry, that's wrong. Other files in C, C++ etc, and xml have _() occurences 
> as well.
> But it's possible to parse them with no issue, since the scanner  does it.

Exact the `_ = gettext` has been stolen from the C usage of gettext. In C the 
'_' is defined as a
macro for gettext and is used for the same purpose: how to have the simplest 
identifier possible for
some hidden purpose ?

To me, Samuel proposition to deprecate "_" usage is really good; having "_" 
defined by default is
weird as there is two usage for this symbol (think from Go/Python users and 
from C users).

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Re: [Scilab-users] ?==?utf-8?q? macOs High Sierra

[Antoine Monmayrant]

Hello Philippe,

I agree with you that any regression when Scilab, your graphic drivers or your 
OS gets updated is a real pain in the beep.
It's also clear that Scilab has some stability issues, in particular concerning 
its oversensitivity to graphic drivers¹.
However, from my (limited) experience, I think you blame the wrong guy here: I 
ditched macos ages ago just because most of my daily open source softs were 
buggy and unreliable (scilab, inkscape, gimp, vlc, ...).
The situation is much better under linux or windows for most of them.
I'm not judging here the merits of macos, I just noticed that too many of the 
softs I depended on were working way better somewhere else...
As for the general trend for Scilab becoming less reliable over time, well I 
remember the good old times of Scilab 2.6. I don't miss it and think 6.0 is way 
more stable! :-)

Cheers,

Antoine
¹ I know that graphic drivers tend to be a big bundle of bugs, but when Scilab 
crashes because of graphic drivers issues, matlab, julia, and other java or 
openGL softs like paraview seem unaffected.
 
Le Mardi, Février 06, 2018 15:17 CET, Philippe Dérogis 
 a écrit: 
 
>   Hi,
> 
>   Stephane tried your solution but it doesn’t work for me. I am stuck…
> 
> I use to work a lot with scilab during the last twenty years, it is a great 
> tool. I have a huge library of sci file that I built over those years and use 
> them every days for my work (Acoustics and Signal Processing). But I find 
> that unfortunately this tool is less and less reliable and become more a toy 
> for geeks that love to spend hours on forums trying making things working on 
> their computer. I am very disappointed that the owner (scilab enterprises) of 
> a great application like scilab did not succeeded to maintain a working 
> version of the application. 
> 
> On my side I will continue to check this mailing list daily in order to try 
> to have things back up and running on my computer.
> 
> Sorry to have to say that.
> 
> Philippe Derogis
> 
> 
> > Le 5 févr. 2018 à 20:17, Philippe Dérogis  a 
> > écrit :
> > 
> > Thank you Stephane,
> > 
> > I will try this tomorrow.
> > 
> > Philippe.
> > 
> > 
> >> Le 5 févr. 2018 à 16:31, Stéphane Mottelet  a 
> >> écrit :
> >> 
> >> A last (but not least) detail, copy the classpath.xml from scilab-6.0.0 
> >> app to scilab-6.0.1 app :
> >> 
> >> cp scilab-6.0.0.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/etc/classpath.xml 
> >> scilab-6.0.1.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/etc
> >> 
> >> S.
> >> 
> >> Le 05/02/2018 à 16:25, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit :
> >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> If you already have scilab-6.0.0 :
> >>> 
> >>> -duplicate the scilab-6.0.0 app and rename it scilab.6.0.1
> >>> -right-click and "Show package content"
> >>> -navigate to Contents/MacOS folder
> >>> -drag and drop the files of the scilab-branch-6.0-macosx/ folder into the 
> >>> abovementioned folder (scilab-6.0.1.app/Contents/MacOS (say yes when 
> >>> prompted for overwriting files)
> >>> 
> >>> It worked for me.
> >>> 
> >>> S.
> >>> 
> >>> Le 05/02/2018 à 15:55, Philippe Dérogis a écrit :
> Hi Samuel,
>  
>    Thank you for your response, I dowloaded scilab-branch-6.0-macosx.tar 
>  but I didn't find any .dmg in it. It tried to run the stuff in the bin 
>  directory but it did not make anything interesting. Is there something 
>  that i missed ?
>  
>  Thank you
>  
>  Philippe.
>  
>  
> > Le 5 févr. 2018 à 13:13, sgoug...@free.fr a écrit :
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > You may try there: https://build.scilab.org/job/scilab-6.0-macosx/
> > 
> > Regards
> > Samuel Gougeon
> > 
> > - Mail original -
> > De: "Philippe Dérogis"
> > À: "Users mailing list for Scilab" 
> > Envoyé: Lundi 5 Février 2018 12:44:06
> > Objet: [Scilab-users] macOs High Sierra
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I upgraded my mac to High Sierra 10.13.3 last week and Scilab 6.0.0 
> > doesn’t start anymore. I tried to download the nighty build here : 
> > http://www.scilab.org/en/development/nightly_builds/branch60 and I get 
> > the 404 error : The requested URL 
> > /download/2017-08-02/scilab-branch-6.0-1500821730-x86_64.dmg was not 
> > found on this server.
> > I would like to know if there is a fix to this situation.
> > 
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks to all developers and contributors.
> > 
> > Philippe DEROGIS.
> > 
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Re: [Scilab-users] ?==?utf-8?q? Both scilab 5.5.2 & 6.0 stopped working (java issue under linux)

[Clément David]

Hello Antoine, Tim,

Yep, for such issue, having a cross posting between a scilab bug and the ubuntu 
bug is a good idea.
This issue are sometimes possible to fix on Scilab side (but not relying for 
some GL features).

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Le mardi 23 janvier 2018 à 13:51 +0100, amonm...@laas.fr a écrit :
> Le 21/01/2018 à 21:31, Tim Wescott a écrit :
> > There's a known bug, at least in Ubuntu's bug base.
> 
> OK, do you have the link to the Ubuntu bug page?
> It's maybe still a good idea to open a scilab bug report, pointing at 
> the Ubuntu bug page and listing the workaround, no?
> 
> Antoine
> > It appears to vary by hardware -- it doesn't work on this machine, but
> > it works on at least one of my laptops.
> > 
> > On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 08:45 +0100, antoine monmayrant wrote:
> > > I just noticed that I did not fill a bug report for that.
> > > I have 3 of my colleagues running Scilab on Ubuntu 17.04 /17.10 that
> > > are
> > > also affected.
> > > Should I fill a bug report or it corresponds to a known one?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Antoine
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le 04/12/2017 à 17:05, Clément David a écrit :
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > Nice catch Antoine ! From my understanding of the crash and
> > > > depending on your graphic card, you
> > > > could switch the actual GL implementation to a well supported one
> > > > rather than relying on the latest
> > > > GL. For example, using mesa on my Intel i965 system, I can tweak
> > > > the used Profile through
> > > > MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE and MESA_EXTENSION_OVERRIDE [https://www.m
> > > > esa3d.org/envvars.html].
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Clément
> > > > 
> > > > Le lundi 04 décembre 2017 à 16:38 +0100, Antoine Monmayrant a écrit
> > > > :
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Answering my own post: it was a graphic driver issue, as usual.
> > > > > I switch to another driver and now scilab starts, but all the
> > > > > graphics windows are empty!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Antoine
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, December 04, 2017 16:12 CET, "Antoine Monmayrant"  > > > > nm...@laas.fr> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It seems that some automatic update have broken scilab on my
> > > > > > linux station (16.04.3 64bits).
> > > > > > Any java related feature is broken and only scilab-cli is
> > > > > > working.
> > > > > > As any of you any idea on how to investigate this issue?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Antoine
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > PS: Here is the crash log:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > $ scilab
> > > > > > Could not create a Scilab main class. Error:
> > > > > > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: XXX0
> > > > > > profile[1]: GL3bc -> profileImpl GL4bc
> > > > > > !!! not mapped
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.computeProfileMap(GLProfile.java:20
> > > > > > 71)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.initProfilesForDeviceCritical(GLPro
> > > > > > file.java:1954)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.initProfilesForDevice(GLProfile.jav
> > > > > > a:1875)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.initProfilesForDefaultDevices(GLPro
> > > > > > file.java:1842)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.access$000(GLProfile.java:80)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile$1.run(GLProfile.java:230)
> > > > > >   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
> > > > > > Method)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.initSingleton(GLProfile.java:216)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.getProfileMap(GLProfile.java:2297)
> > > > > >   at com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.get(GLProfile.java:988)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.getDefault(GLProfile.java:722)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > com.jogamp.opengl.GLProfile.getDefault(GLProfile.java:733)
> > > > > >   at org.scilab.modules.gui.SwingView.(Unknown
> > > > > > Source)
> > > > > >   at
> > > > > > org.scilab.modules.gui.SwingView.registerSwingView(Unknown
> > > > > > Source)
> > > > > >   at org.scilab.modules.core.Scilab.(Unknown
> > > > > > Source)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Scilab cannot create Scilab Java Main-Class (we have not been
> > > > > > able to find the main Scilab
> > > > > > class. Check if the Scilab and thirdparty packages are
> > > > > > available).
> > > > > > 
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Re: [Scilab-users] macOs High Sierra

[Philippe Dérogis]

Hi Clément,

I totally understand your point and I am sure that all the employees are doing 
their best in order to have things working at their best. The thing that make 
me sade is that this great project initially from INRIA (I thing) do not 
succeed to become a profitable enterprise even it have the same potential as 
Matlab. I know that this have nothing to do with you guys but with the 
management of the company.

Thank you, for the clues for trying to run the application, I will try to mess 
around with that… one more time I’m note a software engineer but simply a guy 
that need a scientific computation software.

Philippe.   

> Le 6 févr. 2018 à 17:28, Clément David  a écrit :
> 
> Hello Philippe,
> 
> Not really a technical point, but about your comment on :
> 
>> I am very disappointed that the owner (scilab enterprises) of a great 
>> application like scilab did
>> not succeeded to maintain a working version of the application. 
> 
> As you may probably know, free software is a hard business and most of the 
> Scilab team employees are
> currently providing support and services around the software for customers. 
> The Windows and Linux
> builds (from the CI on build.scilab.org) are used daily by the team and are 
> improving from commits
> to commits and, thanks to the contributors, we also validate the MacOS X 
> version from time to time.
> 
> As you noted, your issue appeared after upgrading macOs; please take a look 
> at the existing macOs
> Sierra issues and write comment there. If you can contribute, do not hesitate 
> to build Scilab
> from source and help us getting a good quality MacOs support.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [Scilab-users] macOs High Sierra

[Ricardo Fabbri]

Phillippe,

I am not sure if you have seen this work around listed in another thread:

Scilab 6.0.0 (the standar distribution, not the nightly build) worked
for me with Mac OS high sierra 10.13.3 by
removing these files:

/Applications/scilab-6.0.0.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/thirdparty/libBLAS.dylib
/Applications/scilab-6.0.0.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/thirdparty/libz.*

That may work for you while you wait for an updated Mac OS build to be
contributed.

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On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Clément David
 wrote:
> Hello Antoine, hello all,
>
> The www.scilab.org website have not been updated yet but the nightly builds 
> might be removed in
> favor of the Continuous Integration builds [1]. The MacOs build [2] is a bit 
> unreliable but might
> provide your the latest binaries.
>
> [1]: https://build.scilab.org/view/Scilab%20binaries/
> [2]: https://build.scilab.org/view/Scilab%20binaries/job/scilab-6.0-macosx/
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
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>
> Le lundi 05 février 2018 à 13:02 +0100, amonm...@laas.fr a écrit :
>> Le 05/02/2018 à 12:44, Philippe Dérogis a écrit :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >   I upgraded my mac to High Sierra 10.13.3 last week and Scilab 6.0.0 
>> > doesn’t start anymore. I
>> > tried to download the nighty build here : 
>> > http://www.scilab.org/en/development/nightly_builds/br
>> > anch60 and I get the 404 error : The requested URL 
>> > /download/2017-08-02/scilab-branch-6.0-
>> > 1500821730-x86_64.dmg was not found on this server.
>> > I would like to know if there is a fix to this situation.
>>  Hello,
>>
>> It's the same with the master branch: 
>> http://downloadarea.scilab.org/download/2017-08-02/scilab-ma
>> ster-1501146348-x86_64.dmg gives a 404. That's the same for the windows 
>> link: http://downloadarea.
>> scilab.org/download/2017-07-28/scilab-master-1501146348_x64.exe
>>
>> Antoine
>> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all developers and contributors.
>> >
>> > Philippe DEROGIS.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Scilab-users] OpenFEM

[Clément David]

Hello Paul,

May be at INRIA GForge [1] ?

[1]: https://gforge.inria.fr/projects/openfem/

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Le vendredi 02 février 2018 à 08:59 +0100, paul.carr...@free.fr a écrit :
> Dear All,
> OpenFEM project seems to be dead ; the links do not work anymore 
> (http://www.openfem.net/t/ and ht
> tps://support.sdtools.com/gf/project/openfem).
> For my culture, does somebody has the latest release in its archives?
> Thanks
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Re: [Scilab-users] Atoms : "This account is not active"

[Clément David]

Hello Lucien,

Your account might have been deactivated for some reason. I will take a look, 
what's your username ?

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Le mardi 06 février 2018 à 14:27 +0100, Povy Lucien a écrit :
> Hello
> 
> I have a account for "atoms", when i want to log on this account we have 
> a return :
> 
> "This account is not active". I cannot change the password, i cannot 
> delete this account.
> 
> What can i do ?
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> Lucien Povy
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Re: [Scilab-users] macOs High Sierra

[Clément David]

Hello Antoine, hello all,

The www.scilab.org website have not been updated yet but the nightly builds 
might be removed in
favor of the Continuous Integration builds [1]. The MacOs build [2] is a bit 
unreliable but might
provide your the latest binaries.

[1]: https://build.scilab.org/view/Scilab%20binaries/
[2]: https://build.scilab.org/view/Scilab%20binaries/job/scilab-6.0-macosx/

Thanks,

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Le lundi 05 février 2018 à 13:02 +0100, amonm...@laas.fr a écrit :
> Le 05/02/2018 à 12:44, Philippe Dérogis a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > 
> >   I upgraded my mac to High Sierra 10.13.3 last week and Scilab 6.0.0 
> > doesn’t start anymore. I
> > tried to download the nighty build here : 
> > http://www.scilab.org/en/development/nightly_builds/br
> > anch60 and I get the 404 error : The requested URL 
> > /download/2017-08-02/scilab-branch-6.0-
> > 1500821730-x86_64.dmg was not found on this server. 
> > I would like to know if there is a fix to this situation. 
>  Hello,
> 
> It's the same with the master branch: 
> http://downloadarea.scilab.org/download/2017-08-02/scilab-ma
> ster-1501146348-x86_64.dmg gives a 404. That's the same for the windows link: 
> http://downloadarea.
> scilab.org/download/2017-07-28/scilab-master-1501146348_x64.exe
> 
> Antoine
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks to all developers and contributors.
> > 
> > Philippe DEROGIS.
> >  
> > 
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Re: [Scilab-users] macOs High Sierra

[Clément David]

Hello Philippe,

Not really a technical point, but about your comment on :

> I am very disappointed that the owner (scilab enterprises) of a great 
> application like scilab did
> not succeeded to maintain a working version of the application. 

As you may probably know, free software is a hard business and most of the 
Scilab team employees are
 currently providing support and services around the software for customers. 
The Windows and Linux
builds (from the CI on build.scilab.org) are used daily by the team and are 
improving from commits
to commits and, thanks to the contributors, we also validate the MacOS X 
version from time to time.

As you noted, your issue appeared after upgrading macOs; please take a look at 
the existing macOs
Sierra issues and write comment there. If you can contribute, do not hesitate 
to build Scilab
from source and help us getting a good quality MacOs support.

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab-6.0.0 stopped working

[Paul Onions]

On 6 February 2018 at 13:25, Pablo Fonovich  wrote:
> Hi,
> I also followed the steps in my Ubuntu 17.10 but it just keeps installing
> scilab 5.5.2. Am i doing something wrong?

I seem to remember doing a "sudo apt update" after step 2, before step
3.  I also made sure I had removed the 5.5.2 release before trying
this, just to make sure things didn't get confused.  Though as shown
in my last message I still managed to confuse myself a little bit by
not removing the tarfile 6.0.0 release I had lying around :-)

Hope this helps,
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[Scilab-users] Atoms : "This account is not active"

[Povy Lucien]

Hello

I have a account for "atoms", when i want to log on this account we have 
a return :


"This account is not active". I cannot change the password, i cannot 
delete this account.


What can i do ?

regards


Lucien Povy

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