Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-30 Thread Claus Futtrup

Hi Michael

I'm the thread starter. Good point that one could look in MATLAB for 
inspiration.


I am not so much interested in creating a FEA program (or API) myself in 
Scilab, but if anything exist today which to some extent is in 
development or service (maintenance), then I'd be inclined to try this.


... Conclusion seems to be, this is not the case.

Best regards,
Claus

On 30.01.2020 14:59, Michael J. McCann wrote:

Federico,
This isn't really an answer but I have in hand a book;

"Introduction to  Finite and Spectral Element Methods Using MATLAB",
 C.Pozrikidis, CRC Press,    2014     ISBN978.1.4822.0915.0
It might provide models for coding even if the dialect is different.

Mike.

On 1/28/2020 7:14 PM, Federico Miyara wrote:


Claus,

I'm interested.

Regards,

Federico Miyara


On 27/01/2020 07:25, Claus Futtrup wrote:

Dear fellow Scilabers

There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects 
for implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. 
Please help me by providing pointers.


What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the 
cloth spider which essentially centers the voice coil in the air 
gap), in particular I wish to calculate a force-deflection curve.


In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a 
collection of line segments (straight lines as well as circular 
sections). This description represents a cross section view of the 
spider. For proper modeling, this is an axisymmetric model of the 
spider.


I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but 
done in a software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am 
worried about attaching such a document to the User Group here in 
general, but I can of course send it on request. In Mecway the 
axisymmetric model is expanded into 3D with hex8 elements (it looks 
like a basic cubic element). The force-function is applied in 40 
time steps. It looks like 40 x basic static analysis.


Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this 
problem. Is there a suitable ATOMS library?


Best regards,
Claus

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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-30 Thread Michael J. McCann

Federico,
This isn't really an answer but I have in hand a book;

"Introduction to  Finite and Spectral Element Methods Using MATLAB",
 C.Pozrikidis, CRC Press,    2014     ISBN978.1.4822.0915.0
It might provide models for coding even if the dialect is different.

Mike.

On 1/28/2020 7:14 PM, Federico Miyara wrote:


Claus,

I'm interested.

Regards,

Federico Miyara


On 27/01/2020 07:25, Claus Futtrup wrote:

Dear fellow Scilabers

There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please 
help me by providing pointers.


What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the 
cloth spider which essentially centers the voice coil in the air 
gap), in particular I wish to calculate a force-deflection curve.


In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a 
collection of line segments (straight lines as well as circular 
sections). This description represents a cross section view of the 
spider. For proper modeling, this is an axisymmetric model of the spider.


I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but 
done in a software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am 
worried about attaching such a document to the User Group here in 
general, but I can of course send it on request. In Mecway the 
axisymmetric model is expanded into 3D with hex8 elements (it looks 
like a basic cubic element). The force-function is applied in 40 time 
steps. It looks like 40 x basic static analysis.


Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this 
problem. Is there a suitable ATOMS library?


Best regards,
Claus

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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-28 Thread Federico Miyara


Claus,

I'm interested.

Regards,

Federico Miyara


On 27/01/2020 07:25, Claus Futtrup wrote:

Dear fellow Scilabers

There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please 
help me by providing pointers.


What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the 
cloth spider which essentially centers the voice coil in the air gap), 
in particular I wish to calculate a force-deflection curve.


In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a 
collection of line segments (straight lines as well as circular 
sections). This description represents a cross section view of the 
spider. For proper modeling, this is an axisymmetric model of the spider.


I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but done 
in a software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am worried 
about attaching such a document to the User Group here in general, but 
I can of course send it on request. In Mecway the axisymmetric model 
is expanded into 3D with hex8 elements (it looks like a basic cubic 
element). The force-function is applied in 40 time steps. It looks 
like 40 x basic static analysis.


Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this 
problem. Is there a suitable ATOMS library?


Best regards,
Claus

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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Hi,

For an axisymmetric problem 2D is ok.

S.

> Le 27 janv. 2020 à 21:10, Samuel Gougeon  a écrit :
> 
> Le 27/01/2020 à 20:56, Claus Futtrup a écrit :
>> Hi Samuel
>> 
>> Ah yes. This would be a great way to load a module and work on a FEA problem 
>> in Scilab. Is the maintainer (Yann Collette) still somewhere in the 
>> Scilab-sphere?
> 
> In a 8 years sphere radius.
> 
> Considering more carefully sciFreeFEM, apparently it allowed to deal only 
> with 2D problems.
> So not really relevant for your user case.
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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread Samuel Gougeon

Le 27/01/2020 à 20:56, Claus Futtrup a écrit :

Hi Samuel

Ah yes. This would be a great way to load a module and work on a FEA 
problem in Scilab. Is the maintainer (Yann Collette) still somewhere 
in the Scilab-sphere?


In a 8 years sphere radius.

Considering more carefully sciFreeFEM, apparently it allowed to deal 
only with 2D problems.

So not really relevant for your user case.


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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread Claus Futtrup

Hi Samuel

Ah yes. This would be a great way to load a module and work on a FEA 
problem in Scilab. Is the maintainer (Yann Collette) still somewhere in 
the Scilab-sphere?


Best regards,
Claus

On 27.01.2020 20:18, Samuel Gougeon wrote:

Le 27/01/2020 à 11:25, Claus Futtrup a écrit :

Dear fellow Scilabers

There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please 
help me by providing pointers.


What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the 
cloth spider which essentially centers the voice coil in the air 
gap), in particular I wish to calculate a force-deflection curve.


In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a 
collection of line segments (straight lines as well as circular 
sections). This description represents a cross section view of the 
spider. For proper modeling, this is an axisymmetric model of the 
spider.


I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but 
done in a software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am 
worried about attaching such a document to the User Group here in 
general, but I can of course send it on request. In Mecway the 
axisymmetric model is expanded into 3D with hex8 elements (it looks 
like a basic cubic element). The force-function is applied in 40 time 
steps. It looks like 40 x basic static analysis.


Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this 
problem. Is there a suitable ATOMS library?



sciFreeFEM, but it is not ported to Scilab 6: 
https://atoms.scilab.org/toolboxes/SciFreeFEM


Samuel


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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread Samuel Gougeon

Le 27/01/2020 à 11:25, Claus Futtrup a écrit :

Dear fellow Scilabers

There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please 
help me by providing pointers.


What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the 
cloth spider which essentially centers the voice coil in the air gap), 
in particular I wish to calculate a force-deflection curve.


In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a 
collection of line segments (straight lines as well as circular 
sections). This description represents a cross section view of the 
spider. For proper modeling, this is an axisymmetric model of the spider.


I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but done 
in a software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am worried 
about attaching such a document to the User Group here in general, but 
I can of course send it on request. In Mecway the axisymmetric model 
is expanded into 3D with hex8 elements (it looks like a basic cubic 
element). The force-function is applied in 40 time steps. It looks 
like 40 x basic static analysis.


Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this 
problem. Is there a suitable ATOMS library?



sciFreeFEM, but it is not ported to Scilab 6: 
https://atoms.scilab.org/toolboxes/SciFreeFEM


Samuel


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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread Claus Futtrup

Hi Denis

I did a search in their documentation (it's offered on their web pages) 
for Scilab, and only found one hit which explains their arrays are set 
like matlab or scilab.


Searching their modules library for "scilab" returned empty.

I did a google search "scilab site:freefem.org" ... but nothing hints 
that freefem is somehow supporting integration with Scilab. Am I wrong? 
(Any pointers?)


Best regards,
Claus

On 27.01.2020 18:35, CRETE Denis wrote:

Hello,
You can try freefem.org
HTH
Denis

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Hi

I've searched for FreeFEM and found https://wiki.scilab.org/FreeFem ...
but the wiki returns that the page no longer exist. Do you know of
another link?

Best regards,
Claus

On 27.01.2020 16:01, Heinz Nabielek wrote:

I would have no idea, if the report

"Finite Elements in Scilab: Solution of partial differential equations supported by 
the FreeFEM toolbox"

is any help. Dr van Seggern is long retired from the Forschungszentrum Jülich.
Greetings
Heinz




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Finite Elemente in Scilab:Das Lösen partieller Differentialgleichungen mit 
Hilfe der FreeFEM-Toolbox

Rainer von Seggern
FZJ-ZAM-IB-2001-03
April 2001


On 27.01.2020, at 11:25, Claus Futtrup  wrote:

Dear fellow Scilabers

There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please help me 
by providing pointers.

What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the cloth spider 
which essentially centers the voice coil in the air gap), in particular I wish 
to calculate a force-deflection curve.

In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a collection of line 
segments (straight lines as well as circular sections). This description 
represents a cross section view of the spider. For proper modeling, this is an 
axisymmetric model of the spider.

I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but done in a 
software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am worried about 
attaching such a document to the User Group here in general, but I can of 
course send it on request. In Mecway the axisymmetric model is expanded into 3D 
with hex8 elements (it looks like a basic cubic element). The force-function is 
applied in 40 time steps. It looks like 40 x basic static analysis.

Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this problem. 
Is there a suitable ATOMS library?

Best regards,
Claus
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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread CRETE Denis
Hello,
You can try freefem.org
HTH
Denis

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Hi

I've searched for FreeFEM and found https://wiki.scilab.org/FreeFem ... 
but the wiki returns that the page no longer exist. Do you know of 
another link?

Best regards,
Claus

On 27.01.2020 16:01, Heinz Nabielek wrote:
> I would have no idea, if the report
>
> "Finite Elements in Scilab: Solution of partial differential equations 
> supported by the FreeFEM toolbox"
>
> is any help. Dr van Seggern is long retired from the Forschungszentrum Jülich.
> Greetings
> Heinz
>
>
>
>
> FORSCHUNGSZENTRUM JÜLICH GmbH
> Zentralinstitut für Angewandte Mathematik
> D-52425 Jülich, Tel. (02461) 61-6402
> Interner Bericht
> Finite Elemente in Scilab:Das Lösen partieller Differentialgleichungen mit 
> Hilfe der FreeFEM-Toolbox
>
> Rainer von Seggern
> FZJ-ZAM-IB-2001-03
> April 2001
>
>> On 27.01.2020, at 11:25, Claus Futtrup  wrote:
>>
>> Dear fellow Scilabers
>>
>> There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
>> implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please help 
>> me by providing pointers.
>>
>> What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the cloth 
>> spider which essentially centers the voice coil in the air gap), in 
>> particular I wish to calculate a force-deflection curve.
>>
>> In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a collection of 
>> line segments (straight lines as well as circular sections). This 
>> description represents a cross section view of the spider. For proper 
>> modeling, this is an axisymmetric model of the spider.
>>
>> I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but done in a 
>> software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am worried about 
>> attaching such a document to the User Group here in general, but I can of 
>> course send it on request. In Mecway the axisymmetric model is expanded into 
>> 3D with hex8 elements (it looks like a basic cubic element). The 
>> force-function is applied in 40 time steps. It looks like 40 x basic static 
>> analysis.
>>
>> Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this 
>> problem. Is there a suitable ATOMS library?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Claus
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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread Claus Futtrup

Hi

I've searched for FreeFEM and found https://wiki.scilab.org/FreeFem ... 
but the wiki returns that the page no longer exist. Do you know of 
another link?


Best regards,
Claus

On 27.01.2020 16:01, Heinz Nabielek wrote:

I would have no idea, if the report

"Finite Elements in Scilab: Solution of partial differential equations supported by 
the FreeFEM toolbox"

is any help. Dr van Seggern is long retired from the Forschungszentrum Jülich.
Greetings
Heinz




FORSCHUNGSZENTRUM JÜLICH GmbH
Zentralinstitut für Angewandte Mathematik
D-52425 Jülich, Tel. (02461) 61-6402
Interner Bericht
Finite Elemente in Scilab:Das Lösen partieller Differentialgleichungen mit 
Hilfe der FreeFEM-Toolbox

Rainer von Seggern
FZJ-ZAM-IB-2001-03
April 2001


On 27.01.2020, at 11:25, Claus Futtrup  wrote:

Dear fellow Scilabers

There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please help me 
by providing pointers.

What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the cloth spider 
which essentially centers the voice coil in the air gap), in particular I wish 
to calculate a force-deflection curve.

In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a collection of line 
segments (straight lines as well as circular sections). This description 
represents a cross section view of the spider. For proper modeling, this is an 
axisymmetric model of the spider.

I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but done in a 
software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am worried about 
attaching such a document to the User Group here in general, but I can of 
course send it on request. In Mecway the axisymmetric model is expanded into 3D 
with hex8 elements (it looks like a basic cubic element). The force-function is 
applied in 40 time steps. It looks like 40 x basic static analysis.

Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this problem. 
Is there a suitable ATOMS library?

Best regards,
Claus
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Re: [Scilab-users] FEA in Scilab

2020-01-27 Thread Heinz Nabielek
I would have no idea, if the report

"Finite Elements in Scilab: Solution of partial differential equations 
supported by the FreeFEM toolbox"

is any help. Dr van Seggern is long retired from the Forschungszentrum Jülich.
Greetings
Heinz




FORSCHUNGSZENTRUM JÜLICH GmbH
Zentralinstitut für Angewandte Mathematik
D-52425 Jülich, Tel. (02461) 61-6402
Interner Bericht
Finite Elemente in Scilab:Das Lösen partieller Differentialgleichungen mit 
Hilfe der FreeFEM-Toolbox

Rainer von Seggern
FZJ-ZAM-IB-2001-03
April 2001

> On 27.01.2020, at 11:25, Claus Futtrup  wrote:
> 
> Dear fellow Scilabers
> 
> There are various initiatives and possibly demonstration projects for 
> implementing Finite Element algorithms and Analysis in Scilab. Please help me 
> by providing pointers.
> 
> What I'd like to simulate is the suspension of a loudspeaker (the cloth 
> spider which essentially centers the voice coil in the air gap), in 
> particular I wish to calculate a force-deflection curve.
> 
> In my particular case, I'd like to describe the spider as a collection of 
> line segments (straight lines as well as circular sections). This description 
> represents a cross section view of the spider. For proper modeling, this is 
> an axisymmetric model of the spider.
> 
> I have a simple description of what I'd like to do in Scilab, but done in a 
> software named Mecway. The PDF is 650 kb (4 pages). I am worried about 
> attaching such a document to the User Group here in general, but I can of 
> course send it on request. In Mecway the axisymmetric model is expanded into 
> 3D with hex8 elements (it looks like a basic cubic element). The 
> force-function is applied in 40 time steps. It looks like 40 x basic static 
> analysis.
> 
> Please let me know what you think would be suitable for solving this problem. 
> Is there a suitable ATOMS library?
> 
> Best regards,
> Claus
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