Re: Documentation, CVS, and Maven

2003-04-06 Thread dion
Hi Martin,

I've been trying to get some reasonably complex docbook (but not overly 
so) files for testing against Maven. Looks like you've done it for me?

Is this something you could pass on so I could update the plugin?
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Martin Skopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2003 11:59:07 PM:

 On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 14:21, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
  The simple docbook is just a DTD based on docbook with a lot of 
  trimmed tags for use in simple documentation. Maven provides limited 
  support for this kind of docbook.
 
 Could you please post the URL of that DTD?
 
  What tools are you using to author docbook documentation?
 
 jEdit http://www.jedit.org/, with XML plugins installed.
 
 
 I have put one of our docbook files to maven and it worked more or less:
 
 * Easy tables worked, complex tables failed.
 * orderedlist, itemizedlist worked fine
 * Titles of sections inside sections did not show up in a different
 style/code, possibly a CSS problem.
 * screen and images/inlinegraphic failed
 * links (ulink) worked well
 * email failed
 * filename failed
 * menuchoice and keycap failed
 * FAQ (qandaset) failed
 
 Seems that the docbook-plugin fraction needs some 
 programming support... ;-)
 
 I was actually impressed that it worked!
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Documentation, CVS, and Maven

2003-04-04 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   Lately I've been thinking about documentation, cvs and maven, and 
I'd like to hear opinions from you.

   Here's the scenario:

   * I want to document a software project using a subset of the
 artifacts provided in the unified process, you know, capture
 requirements using use cases, analysis and design using UML, etc
   * I want this documentation to be easily integrated in cvs, so I
 don't want them to be binary formats
   * I want this documentation to be easily integrated in maven.
   So the candidates are html, xdoc and docbook (full or simple). Do 
you know any other alternative I should take into account?

   Thougths about them:

   * html. A good option, as long as all the people creating
 documentation can share a stylesheet, and we can find a program to
 edit the files that doesn't put garbage in the html code
   * xdoc. The preferred documentation format for maven.
   * docbook. Based on standards, lot of tools to output in a variety
 of formats, with limited support in maven for the simple version.
   Questions about xdoc:

   I have the impression, after taking a look at the maven source, that 
the main reason for adopting xdoc is simplicity and possibility of 
processing it with xml stylesheets to add the format and the banner and 
menu typical of maven projects. I find xdoc too simple for my needs. For 
example I have some documents where I have more than two levels of 
headers, while xdoc only support section and subsection (two levels).

   Maven style is applied to headers, tables, and source code 
basically, am I right? So couldn't be the source for maven documentation 
a plain xhtml with h1 and h2 instead of section and subsection? This way 
maven wouldn't impose a restriction on levels or format of the document, 
and xml stylesheet for site generation could still be used. Maven could 
still provide a html stylesheet defining styles for h1 through h6, 
tables and pre.

   Another question... is there any reason for mapping section and 
subsection to h3 and h4 instead of h1 and h2?

   Regards
   Jose
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Re: Documentation, CVS, and Maven

2003-04-04 Thread Martin Skopp
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 13:22, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 * docbook. Based on standards, lot of tools to output in a variety
   of formats, with limited support in maven for the simple version.

Don't know the diff betw. docbook full+simple, but we use docbook here
for such docs since we sometimes need to integrate images, tables,
appendixes, indexes, table of content automatically etc. and sometimes
we need to deliver PDF.

DocBook does the job well - we use just a few tags but
* it has more options than xdoc
* it has less layout than html
which makes it ideal for us here.

Haven't looked into mavens docbook support, but that could be a point
against it...
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Re: Documentation, CVS, and Maven

2003-04-04 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   Martin,

   The simple docbook is just a DTD based on docbook with a lot of 
trimmed tags for use in simple documentation. Maven provides limited 
support for this kind of docbook.

   What tools are you using to author docbook documentation?

   Regards
   Jose
Martin Skopp wrote:

On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 13:22, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 

   * docbook. Based on standards, lot of tools to output in a variety
 of formats, with limited support in maven for the simple version.
   

Don't know the diff betw. docbook full+simple, but we use docbook here
for such docs since we sometimes need to integrate images, tables,
appendixes, indexes, table of content automatically etc. and sometimes
we need to deliver PDF.
DocBook does the job well - we use just a few tags but
* it has more options than xdoc
* it has less layout than html
which makes it ideal for us here.
Haven't looked into mavens docbook support, but that could be a point
against it...
 



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Re: Documentation, CVS, and Maven

2003-04-04 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez

Could you please post the URL of that DTD?

   Sure...

!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC -//OASIS//DTD Simplified DocBook XML 
V1.0CR2//EN 
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/simple/1.0CR2/sdocbook.dtd;

   Regards
   Jose
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