Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 14:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jason, > > While I commiserate, the best way I have found to avoid placing myself > in a puerile light is to address these kinds of concerns by saying > nothing while continuing to work for a solution to my customers needs. I code as we speak! -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maven.apache.org First, the taking in of scattered particulars under one Idea, so that everyone understands what is being talked about ... Second, the separation of the Idea into parts, by dividing it at the joints, as nature directs, not breaking any limb in half as a bad carver might. -- Plato, Phaedrus (Notes on the Synthesis of Form by C. Alexander) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
Jason, While I commiserate, the best way I have found to avoid placing myself in a puerile light is to address these kinds of concerns by saying nothing while continuing to work for a solution to my customers needs. -Jan Jason van Zyl wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 07:10, Niclas Hedhman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cv]$ maven xdoc __ __ | \/ |__ _Apache__ ___ | |\/| / _` \ V / -_) ' \ ~ not so intelligent? ~ |_| |_\__,_|\_/\___|_||_| v. 1.0-rc3 Attempting to download maven-1.0-rc2.jar. ... . Just upgraded to RC3. Can someone tell me why the RC2 jar is downloaded ?? (there is no POM for this 'project' ) Comments like this are really not in your best interest. Fair enough to have a critism, but subject lines like yours aren't readily forgotten. Not only is it rude but you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Everyone thinks their sniping little comments are going to make us jump to their aid when in fact I know the effort that I will put forth to help you in the future: a big fat zero. Brett and many others busted their asses to get the release out and they don't deserve bullshit subject lines like yours. Have some respect, phrase your concerns in a non-puerile fashion or expect to get little or no help. Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
Jason, take a pill... The guy asked a simple question, and expected a simple answer... I don't think anyone here thought you where to blame and everyone understands that this is a work in progress and there are questions to be asked. The work has been extensive and fairly good so far. Frankly the title only made me pay attention -- it did not: 1) make me think Maven was crap. 2) make me think that fellow was "sniping". 3) make me think the fellow was rude. 4) I didn't think he was asking for help, just an answer to a question I'm also interested in. 5) I was shocked to see your extremely rude reply however, which doesn't answer the question BTW. 6) Your post made me think your name is going to show up on the bileblog anytime now. 7) I think most folks reading this would agree with me, though I don't *know* that. IMO - You've done more "shooting yourself in the foot" that anyone has so far reading this thread! of course, I may change my mind as I catch up in the thread... - Brill Pappin Jason van Zyl wrote: On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 07:10, Niclas Hedhman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cv]$ maven xdoc __ __ | \/ |__ _Apache__ ___ | |\/| / _` \ V / -_) ' \ ~ not so intelligent? ~ |_| |_\__,_|\_/\___|_||_| v. 1.0-rc3 Attempting to download maven-1.0-rc2.jar. ... . Just upgraded to RC3. Can someone tell me why the RC2 jar is downloaded ?? (there is no POM for this 'project' ) Comments like this are really not in your best interest. Fair enough to have a critism, but subject lines like yours aren't readily forgotten. Not only is it rude but you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Everyone thinks their sniping little comments are going to make us jump to their aid when in fact I know the effort that I will put forth to help you in the future: a big fat zero. Brett and many others busted their asses to get the release out and they don't deserve bullshit subject lines like yours. Have some respect, phrase your concerns in a non-puerile fashion or expect to get little or no help. Cheers Niclas -- "Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology." - Arthur C Anticlarke - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
Also, On Thursday 10 June 2004 01:18, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Brett and many others busted > their asses to get the release out Sure they have. But I don't know why you are so sensistive. 1. Not by any measures of AI could one possibly claim that Maven has an intelligence. 2. I didn't insinuate that any of the developers involved have done a bad job, nor that they are the ones lacking intelligence. 3. IMVHO, "Stupidity insinuations" in a small dose(!) was made by Emmanuel, who was basically saying I am asking for rebuild of a piece of software because any of its dependencies has been upgraded, indirectly saying "you are dumb" (not that I take much offense in such, and give back in equals portions). > and they don't deserve bullshit > subject lines like yours. Again, I fail to see the connection. Perhaps you know something I don't. Have Fun Niclas -- +--//---+ / http://www.bali.ac/ / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +--//---+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
On Thursday 10 June 2004 01:18, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Have some respect, phrase your concerns in a > non-puerile fashion or expect to get little or no help. For the record; I don't expect to get any help... Have Fun Niclas -- +--//---+ / http://www.bali.ac/ / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +--//---+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 07:10, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cv]$ maven xdoc > __ __ > | \/ |__ _Apache__ ___ > | |\/| / _` \ V / -_) ' \ ~ not so intelligent? ~ > |_| |_\__,_|\_/\___|_||_| v. 1.0-rc3 > > Attempting to download maven-1.0-rc2.jar. > ... > . > > > Just upgraded to RC3. Can someone tell me why the RC2 jar is downloaded ?? > (there is no POM for this 'project' ) Comments like this are really not in your best interest. Fair enough to have a critism, but subject lines like yours aren't readily forgotten. Not only is it rude but you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Everyone thinks their sniping little comments are going to make us jump to their aid when in fact I know the effort that I will put forth to help you in the future: a big fat zero. Brett and many others busted their asses to get the release out and they don't deserve bullshit subject lines like yours. Have some respect, phrase your concerns in a non-puerile fashion or expect to get little or no help. > > Cheers > Niclas -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maven.apache.org happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder ... -- Thoreau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
On Thursday 10 June 2004 00:34, Emmanuel Venisse wrote: > Do you rebuild all your apps when a new jdk is release? I hope your logic ain't this flawed in code :o) I don't have any applications that come bundled in the JDK download !!! But I'm pretty sure none of the JDK subsystems would require an older JDK-core to be present. What I am saying is that this is definately more than "a plugin has a different life cycle than core". It is BUNDLED, and it seems utterly weird that it pulls in a previous version of what it is bundled with. Bye Niclas -- +--//---+ / http://www.bali.ac/ / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +--//---+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
- Original Message - From: "Niclas Hedhman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:14 PM Subject: Re: RC3 not so intelligent?? > On Wednesday 09 June 2004 20:06, Emmanuel Venisse wrote: > > > A plugin uses the rc2 as dependency. > > The only plugins I have are the one that came with the RC3 download, I did a > complete removal of the ~/.mave/plugins prior to running Maven. > Jorg says it is the Artifact plugin, and to me it is a sign of worry that > Maven have difficulties to manage the versioning of itself. No, each plugin is released independantly of Maven, so, we can have different version of jars for differents plugins. We don't release a plugin for each new version of dependencies, but only if we have some changes in it. Do you rebuild all your apps when a new jdk is release? Emmanuel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 20:06, Emmanuel Venisse wrote: > A plugin uses the rc2 as dependency. The only plugins I have are the one that came with the RC3 download, I did a complete removal of the ~/.mave/plugins prior to running Maven. Jorg says it is the Artifact plugin, and to me it is a sign of worry that Maven have difficulties to manage the versioning of itself. Cheers Niclas -- +--//---+ / http://www.bali.ac/ / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +--//---+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RC3 not so intelligent??
Niclas Hedhman wrote on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:10 PM: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cv]$ maven xdoc > __ __ >> \/ |__ _Apache__ ___ >>> \/| / _` \ V / -_) ' \ ~ not so intelligent? ~ >> _| |_\__,_|\_/\___|_||_| v. 1.0-rc3 > > Attempting to download maven-1.0-rc2.jar. > .. > . . > > > Just upgraded to RC3. Me too. > Can someone tell me why the RC2 jar is > downloaded ?? (there is no POM for this 'project' ) Was also quite astonished. Artifact-plugin references this ... :) -- Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
- Original Message - From: "Niclas Hedhman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:10 PM Subject: RC3 not so intelligent?? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cv]$ maven xdoc > __ __ > | \/ |__ _Apache__ ___ > | |\/| / _` \ V / -_) ' \ ~ not so intelligent? ~ > |_| |_\__,_|\_/\___|_||_| v. 1.0-rc3 > > Attempting to download maven-1.0-rc2.jar. > ... > . > > > Just upgraded to RC3. Can someone tell me why the RC2 jar is downloaded ?? > (there is no POM for this 'project' ) A plugin uses the rc2 as dependency. > > > Cheers > Niclas > -- >+--//---+ > / http://www.bali.ac/ > / http://niclas.hedhman.org / > +--//---+ > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RC3 not so intelligent??
Hi! I think that it is mentioned in dependencies. On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:10:26 +0800, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cv]$ maven xdoc __ __ | \/ |__ _Apache__ ___ | |\/| / _` \ V / -_) ' \ ~ not so intelligent? ~ |_| |_\__,_|\_/\___|_||_| v. 1.0-rc3 Attempting to download maven-1.0-rc2.jar. ... . Just upgraded to RC3. Can someone tell me why the RC2 jar is downloaded ?? (there is no POM for this 'project' ) Cheers Niclas -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
