Re: Re: Re: Dependency scopes
Thanks! "Martijn Dashorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 30.08.2006 16:17 Please respond to "Maven Users List" To "Maven Users List" cc Subject Re: Re: Re: Dependency scopes Reviewed by Category Yes, but "runtime classpath" != "runtime scope" runtime classpath == union(compile, runtime scope) Martijn On 8/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, this means that war and ear plug-ins reference the runtime classpath > instead of say compile or test. Correct? > > "Martijn Dashorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 30.08.2006 > 15:37:56: > > > No, but maven is also used to create war, ear and other distribution > > packages. These packages need those actual runtime dependencies inside > > them. > > > > So for testing I need junit, but not at runtime -> test scope > > For testing I may not have a need for oracle-jdbc (using hsqldb for > > unittests), but at runtime I will (if deploying on an oracle database) > > -> runtime scope. > > > > For testing I need the interfaces for the servlet api, but those > > interfaces are available at runtiime in the tomcat server for my web > > application. So the servlet api JAR (javax.servlet-2.3.jar) is needed > > for compile *and* test, but doesn't need to go into the WAR archive -> > > provided scope. > > > > hth. > > > > Martijn > > > DISCLAIMER > This message is intended only for use by the person > to whom it is addressed. It may contain information > that is privileged and confidential. Its content does > not constitute a formal commitment by Lombard > Odier Darier Hentsch Group and any of its affiliates. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message, > kindly notify the sender immediately and destroy this > message. Thank You. > * > > -- Download Wicket 1.2.2 now! New Ajax components: Tree, TreeTable and ModalWindow -- http://wicketframework.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This message is intended only for use by the person to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Its content does not constitute a formal commitment by Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch Group and any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, kindly notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Thank You. *
Re: Re: Re: Dependency scopes
Yes, but "runtime classpath" != "runtime scope" runtime classpath == union(compile, runtime scope) Martijn On 8/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, this means that war and ear plug-ins reference the runtime classpath instead of say compile or test. Correct? "Martijn Dashorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 30.08.2006 15:37:56: > No, but maven is also used to create war, ear and other distribution > packages. These packages need those actual runtime dependencies inside > them. > > So for testing I need junit, but not at runtime -> test scope > For testing I may not have a need for oracle-jdbc (using hsqldb for > unittests), but at runtime I will (if deploying on an oracle database) > -> runtime scope. > > For testing I need the interfaces for the servlet api, but those > interfaces are available at runtiime in the tomcat server for my web > application. So the servlet api JAR (javax.servlet-2.3.jar) is needed > for compile *and* test, but doesn't need to go into the WAR archive -> > provided scope. > > hth. > > Martijn DISCLAIMER This message is intended only for use by the person to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Its content does not constitute a formal commitment by Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch Group and any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, kindly notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Thank You. * -- Download Wicket 1.2.2 now! New Ajax components: Tree, TreeTable and ModalWindow -- http://wicketframework.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Dependency scopes
So, this means that war and ear plug-ins reference the runtime classpath instead of say compile or test. Correct? "Martijn Dashorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 30.08.2006 15:37:56: > No, but maven is also used to create war, ear and other distribution > packages. These packages need those actual runtime dependencies inside > them. > > So for testing I need junit, but not at runtime -> test scope > For testing I may not have a need for oracle-jdbc (using hsqldb for > unittests), but at runtime I will (if deploying on an oracle database) > -> runtime scope. > > For testing I need the interfaces for the servlet api, but those > interfaces are available at runtiime in the tomcat server for my web > application. So the servlet api JAR (javax.servlet-2.3.jar) is needed > for compile *and* test, but doesn't need to go into the WAR archive -> > provided scope. > > hth. > > Martijn DISCLAIMER This message is intended only for use by the person to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Its content does not constitute a formal commitment by Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch Group and any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, kindly notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Thank You. *
Re: Re: Dependency scopes
No, but maven is also used to create war, ear and other distribution packages. These packages need those actual runtime dependencies inside them. So for testing I need junit, but not at runtime -> test scope For testing I may not have a need for oracle-jdbc (using hsqldb for unittests), but at runtime I will (if deploying on an oracle database) -> runtime scope. For testing I need the interfaces for the servlet api, but those interfaces are available at runtiime in the tomcat server for my web application. So the servlet api JAR (javax.servlet-2.3.jar) is needed for compile *and* test, but doesn't need to go into the WAR archive -> provided scope. hth. Martijn On 8/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The difference between the runtime and test scopes is also not very > > clear to me. "Nick Veys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 17.08.2006 06:16:40: > This was already answered, but the test dependencies aren't needed for > "normal" runtime, so they are left out. It allows you to pull in a > test harness, or mock libraries during your tests but leave that out > for "real" execution or packaging. While I understand that certain libs may be required at compile time but not compile time, I don't see what "normal" runtime means in terms of Maven. Maven is a build system, it does not execute your applications, so how can it have a runtime classpath? There is no such thing as runtime Maven or is there? DISCLAIMER This message is intended only for use by the person to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Its content does not constitute a formal commitment by Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch Group and any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, kindly notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Thank You. * -- Download Wicket 1.2.2 now! New Ajax components: Tree, TreeTable and ModalWindow -- http://wicketframework.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
