Re: Redirects in ibiblio?

2007-06-10 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 9 Jun 07, at 8:58 PM 9 Jun 07, sharrissf wrote:



I was wondering if it would be possible to post a redirect to  
ibiblio that
would take someone to a different maven repository to find what  
they are

looking for. Sort of making ibiblio both a repository and a directory
service for finding the proper repository for software?


Ibibilio is being phased out and for Maven 2.x Ibiblio isn't used  
much at all. The most recent releases of Maven 1.x also don't use  
Ibiblio. Everything goes to our central repository machine which is:


http://repo1.maven.org

That said the plan for that machine is that it always remain a simple  
web-based repository, there will never be any sort of applications  
running on it.


What do you need as anything that is OSS in nature should be pushed  
to the central repository. We're shooting to have the one intact  
repository be mirrored all over the world.




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Re: Redirects in ibiblio?

2007-06-10 Thread sharrissf

Many projects like to keep various kinds of statistics. Sourceforge does some
of that. A repository redirect
doesn't sound much like complex functionality to me. It's just returning the
location of a repository
that contains the download. Seems simple to me but then again, I didn't
write the code or do the design. 

In my opinion, if it has this feature then it can become ubiquitous. A
network of repostiories for people to put stuff downloadable for maven with
a directory service in the middle. I haven't run any statistics but I
suspect a whole bunch of the jars people use can't be gotten directly, even
from ibiblio/repo1, because the owners won't hand over that last bit of
control.

Cheers,
Steve



Jason van Zyl-2 wrote:
 
 
 On 9 Jun 07, at 8:58 PM 9 Jun 07, sharrissf wrote:
 

 I was wondering if it would be possible to post a redirect to  
 ibiblio that
 would take someone to a different maven repository to find what  
 they are
 looking for. Sort of making ibiblio both a repository and a directory
 service for finding the proper repository for software?
 
 Ibibilio is being phased out and for Maven 2.x Ibiblio isn't used  
 much at all. The most recent releases of Maven 1.x also don't use  
 Ibiblio. Everything goes to our central repository machine which is:
 
 http://repo1.maven.org
 
 That said the plan for that machine is that it always remain a simple  
 web-based repository, there will never be any sort of applications  
 running on it.
 
 What do you need as anything that is OSS in nature should be pushed  
 to the central repository. We're shooting to have the one intact  
 repository be mirrored all over the world.
 
 
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Re: Redirects in ibiblio?

2007-06-10 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 10 Jun 07, at 8:51 AM 10 Jun 07, sharrissf wrote:



Many projects like to keep various kinds of statistics. Sourceforge  
does some

of that.


You mean akin to google analytics?


A repository redirect
doesn't sound much like complex functionality to me. It's just  
returning the

location of a repository
that contains the download. Seems simple to me but then again, I  
didn't

write the code or do the design.


It's simply an Apache webserver serving up the content.



In my opinion, if it has this feature then it can become ubiquitous. A
network of repostiories for people to put stuff downloadable for  
maven with

a directory service in the middle. I haven't run any statistics but I
suspect a whole bunch of the jars people use can't be gotten  
directly, even
from ibiblio/repo1, because the owners won't hand over that last  
bit of

control.


They can have their repositories for their own development but when  
it comes to working for everyone else I believe the only real  
solution is pushing it to central. Why? Because most of the  
repositories setup by others tend to be crap, not managed, and things  
come and go which makes them completely unstable. For example, I have  
already seen release POMs being created that list repositories  
listing dependencies that are no longer available in those  
repositories rendering that release POM completely useless. Simply a  
function of making thing work for their projects, and inadvertently  
screwing everyone else. A network of repositories is nice in theory,  
hasn't work out so well in practice and really the central repository  
is not that terribly big and we'll make it easy for people to push to  
the central repository.


But stats for projects is something we can definitely improve upon.



Cheers,
Steve



Jason van Zyl-2 wrote:



On 9 Jun 07, at 8:58 PM 9 Jun 07, sharrissf wrote:



I was wondering if it would be possible to post a redirect to
ibiblio that
would take someone to a different maven repository to find what
they are
looking for. Sort of making ibiblio both a repository and a  
directory

service for finding the proper repository for software?


Ibibilio is being phased out and for Maven 2.x Ibiblio isn't used
much at all. The most recent releases of Maven 1.x also don't use
Ibiblio. Everything goes to our central repository machine which is:

http://repo1.maven.org

That said the plan for that machine is that it always remain a simple
web-based repository, there will never be any sort of applications
running on it.

What do you need as anything that is OSS in nature should be pushed
to the central repository. We're shooting to have the one intact
repository be mirrored all over the world.



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Redirects in ibiblio?

2007-06-09 Thread sharrissf

I was wondering if it would be possible to post a redirect to ibiblio that
would take someone to a different maven repository to find what they are
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service for finding the proper repository for software?
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