Re: sql server jars
Wayne Fay wrote: I'm not an official member/representative of Apache in any way so take this with a grain of salt... I think you'll need a Maven PMC member to look into things and potentially send this issue to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get their approval etc and then assuming it all works out, it can be posted into the Maven repo. But even this seems like a lot of work -- why can't MSFT just release some things (like for example a SQL Server client connection library) under a license which freely permits redistribution rights, like so many other libraries/products already hosted by Maven? Even Sun has seen the error of their ways and is busy relicensing things under CDDL of late... I agree, it's a pain in the butt, I guess being a big company has it's drawbacks. Having to deal with legal is always a problem and indeed the EULA is filled with stuff in which they wave their responsibility more than anything else. However, can maven accept the terms or not? Srgjan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql server jars
Wayne Fay wrote: Feel free to look into it Srgjan and if it seems to allow redistribution, open a JIRA ticket for it. Wayne I've asked on the MS msdn forums about it and a person answered that indeed the older driver had the restrictions on redistribution but the new one seems can be redistributed but it seems that the maven team should make a formal request. The guy also said he'd be glad to help clarify any licensing issues directly so I'm pointing you to the discussion: http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/showpost.aspx?postid=777134siteid=1 and here is the registration for the driver redistribution: http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/jdbc/redist/default.aspx I believe someone from representing maven team (or the apache foundation) should read the license and if it's ok then perhaps we can redistribute the lib through our repository. This is the EULA: http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/jdbc/redist/eula.aspx Perhaps there are some issues like: require distributors and external end users to agree to terms that protect it at least as much as this agreement; EXPORT RESTRICTIONS; others? Also, although we accept these terms, there is currently no way for the maven end users to accept the license as well. What's your thoughts? Srgjan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql server jars
I'm not an official member/representative of Apache in any way so take this with a grain of salt... I think you'll need a Maven PMC member to look into things and potentially send this issue to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get their approval etc and then assuming it all works out, it can be posted into the Maven repo. But even this seems like a lot of work -- why can't MSFT just release some things (like for example a SQL Server client connection library) under a license which freely permits redistribution rights, like so many other libraries/products already hosted by Maven? Even Sun has seen the error of their ways and is busy relicensing things under CDDL of late... Wayne On 9/30/06, Srepfler Srgjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne Fay wrote: Feel free to look into it Srgjan and if it seems to allow redistribution, open a JIRA ticket for it. Wayne I've asked on the MS msdn forums about it and a person answered that indeed the older driver had the restrictions on redistribution but the new one seems can be redistributed but it seems that the maven team should make a formal request. The guy also said he'd be glad to help clarify any licensing issues directly so I'm pointing you to the discussion: http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/showpost.aspx?postid=777134siteid=1 and here is the registration for the driver redistribution: http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/jdbc/redist/default.aspx I believe someone from representing maven team (or the apache foundation) should read the license and if it's ok then perhaps we can redistribute the lib through our repository. This is the EULA: http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/jdbc/redist/eula.aspx Perhaps there are some issues like: require distributors and external end users to agree to terms that protect it at least as much as this agreement; EXPORT RESTRICTIONS; others? Also, although we accept these terms, there is currently no way for the maven end users to accept the license as well. What's your thoughts? Srgjan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql server jars
Stephen Duncan wrote: FYI: My experience is that the JTDS driver is better than the one from Microsoft anyway. -Stephen On 9/1/06, Geoffrey De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, I think I 'll try this one as an alternative :) Wendy Smoak wrote, On 2006-09-01 4:03 PM: On 9/1/06, Douglas Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there sql server jars in central, of so what's the groupId? Are you looking for a JDBC driver for Microsoft SQL Server? Google turned up jTDS: http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ It's on ibiblio in groupId net.sourceforge.jtds http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/net/sourceforge/jtds/ HTH, -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe the new driver for SQLServer 2005 is a complete re-write so it might be better than the old driver (although I didn't have any serious problems when I used it). Is it certain that the license prohibits redistribution? It would be really nice if we have the official drivers in the repo. Srgjan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql server jars
Feel free to look into it Srgjan and if it seems to allow redistribution, open a JIRA ticket for it. Wayne On 9/28/06, Srepfler Srgjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Duncan wrote: FYI: My experience is that the JTDS driver is better than the one from Microsoft anyway. -Stephen On 9/1/06, Geoffrey De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, I think I 'll try this one as an alternative :) Wendy Smoak wrote, On 2006-09-01 4:03 PM: On 9/1/06, Douglas Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there sql server jars in central, of so what's the groupId? Are you looking for a JDBC driver for Microsoft SQL Server? Google turned up jTDS: http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ It's on ibiblio in groupId net.sourceforge.jtds http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/net/sourceforge/jtds/ HTH, -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe the new driver for SQLServer 2005 is a complete re-write so it might be better than the old driver (although I didn't have any serious problems when I used it). Is it certain that the license prohibits redistribution? It would be really nice if we have the official drivers in the repo. Srgjan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sql server jars
Are there sql server jars in central, of so whats the groupId?
Re: sql server jars
You mean JDBC connectors? Those of mysql and hsqldb are available, search with www.mvnrepository.com Those of MS SQL server are not of course, because it's illegal to distribute them. PS: after downloading the JDBC connector for MS sql server from MS, unjar and rejar and unsign it, because it's corrupted (in my experience with it). Douglas Ferguson wrote, On 2006-09-01 3:48 PM: Are there sql server jars in central, of so what’s the groupId? -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql server jars
On 9/1/06, Douglas Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there sql server jars in central, of so what's the groupId? Are you looking for a JDBC driver for Microsoft SQL Server? Google turned up jTDS: http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ It's on ibiblio in groupId net.sourceforge.jtds http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/net/sourceforge/jtds/ HTH, -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql server jars
Interesting, I think I 'll try this one as an alternative :) Wendy Smoak wrote, On 2006-09-01 4:03 PM: On 9/1/06, Douglas Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there sql server jars in central, of so what's the groupId? Are you looking for a JDBC driver for Microsoft SQL Server? Google turned up jTDS: http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ It's on ibiblio in groupId net.sourceforge.jtds http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/net/sourceforge/jtds/ HTH, -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sql server jars
FYI: My experience is that the JTDS driver is better than the one from Microsoft anyway. -Stephen On 9/1/06, Geoffrey De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, I think I 'll try this one as an alternative :) Wendy Smoak wrote, On 2006-09-01 4:03 PM: On 9/1/06, Douglas Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there sql server jars in central, of so what's the groupId? Are you looking for a JDBC driver for Microsoft SQL Server? Google turned up jTDS: http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ It's on ibiblio in groupId net.sourceforge.jtds http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/net/sourceforge/jtds/ HTH, -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Stephen Duncan Jr www.stephenduncanjr.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re: sql server jars
I've used this. It's pretty fast and stable from what I saw... -Original Message- From: news on behalf of Geoffrey De Smet Sent: Fri 9/1/2006 11:10 AM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Re: sql server jars Interesting, I think I 'll try this one as an alternative :) Wendy Smoak wrote, On 2006-09-01 4:03 PM: On 9/1/06, Douglas Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there sql server jars in central, of so what's the groupId? Are you looking for a JDBC driver for Microsoft SQL Server? Google turned up jTDS: http://jtds.sourceforge.net/ It's on ibiblio in groupId net.sourceforge.jtds http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/net/sourceforge/jtds/ HTH, -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
