Re: Problem when using Ajax4JSF

2009-06-05 Thread Anton Gavazuk
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2009/6/5 Shasi Mitra Yarram shasimi...@yahoo.com

 Hi all- On load of the body I'm rendering a panelgrid by calling one
 actionListener using a4j:jsFunction. But till that panelgrid loads none of
 the actions on the page are working. As ajax is asynchronous, it should not
 wait for the panel grid to load to perform other actions. Any idea how to
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[TRINIDAD] selectOneChoice ignores contentStyle if readOnly=true

2009-06-05 Thread Carsten Pieper

Hi, 

Trinidad's selectOneChoice ignores contentStyle settings if readOnly=true
(we're on Trinidad 1.0.10). Imho, this seems to be a bug. Or is it a feature
;-} ?

Best regards, Carsten
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Re: Trinidad vs Tobago

2009-06-05 Thread Udo Schnurpfeil

Hi all,

let me explain the actual status of the Tobago development:

We have branched the development into the tobago-1.0.x branch and the
trunk which is the next major release.

The tobago-1.0.x branch is stable and basis of the actual releases. The
next release (1.0.21) will come up in the next days. This branch
contains bugfixes and some (smaller) new features.
You can see the changes of the next release here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=12310273fixfor=12313470

The trunk (1.1.x) is an area of many refactorings and implementation of
new features. But the status is still alpha. Here is a list of issues
for the next major release:

* Reimplementation of the layout management:
- make renderer more independent from the layout management.
- more flexible
- more type of layout managers
- better testability (unit tests)
- better support for browser-window resizing

* New tree implementation

* Better support for integrating 3rd party components

* Client side coordinates of action event on server side (mouse event,
click event)

* simplify css and javascript files

* support for many tabs

* improved sheet performance

* more support for other renderkits

and many internal refactorings (plan)

* Generating tag classes and components

* Enhanced tobago lifecyle with buildView layoutView (registerResource)
/ encodeView (renderResponse)

* UIPopup should be a subform

* UITab should be a naming container (which tab contains a component
with a Message)

* Z-Index Provider

* replace prototype with dojo

* replace commons-logging with slf4j

* Remove deprecated methods and classes

* public and internal packages(public api and internal api)

* remove some static classes

* improved TobagoResponseWriter for javascript (JSON)

* TabGroup should be an ActionSource

* TabChangeEvent should be an ActionEvent

* requiredMessage validatorMessage converterMessage for all
EditableValueHolder in Tobago


Regards

Udo

kanth99 schrieb:

Hi all,

Thanks for your replies.


Groovie wrote:
  

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Christian Groove


groo...@groovesytems.de wrote:
  
  

Salut



Hi All,

We are developing a web application with myfaces.

  
  

That's fine, JSF is the cool think. I worked with
Tobago, that comes with a great layout manager
and some cool widgets.

It is not my intention to overwhelm that nice
project but it seems to be dead. The development



that's totally wrong ...
  
  

I hope you are right, but i looks like (for me)
that the development activity slowed down.
2008 was a great year an i was lucky using this
wonderful component library.

Could you give us a short insight of the current
development ?

I switched to Richfaces and found it also useful
for me. What are the advantages  or drawback
of one  lib comparing the other?


Thanks
Groovy


of new widgets seems not to proceed so you may
better look to other Taglibs like Richfaces, Icefaces.

Groovy



This application needs proper navigation and UI .I have observed
Trinidad
has good navigation practices and other utilities.Tobago has some good
layouts but not good navigation practices.both these technologies have
featurs like PPR.
  
  

Trinidat looks a little bit old-fashioned to me, anyway there
seems to be only a little support for AJAX.




could some one plaese advice us which is the better technology and the
distinct features of these technologies.

Thanks,
Srikanth




  
  




  
  





  


Re: Tobago style sheet problem:

2009-06-05 Thread Udo Schnurpfeil

Hi,

I didn't get what you want to change, sorry. Do you want to change one 
component on every page, or the general background, or only for a single 
page?


Generally Firebug (for Firefox) is a great tool to find out the 
structure of the html and check which style effects a component.


I agree, that the structure is sometimes not plain, that is an issue to 
to the Tobago 1.1 release.


Regards,

Udo

kanth99 schrieb:

Hi All,

I have been modifying the Example demo of Tobago.I wanted to change the
color of layout page ,so same will be applicable to all the pages.I modified
the div tags in 'style.css' in the primary theme and the other supported
themes.But the color of page has not changed.

There are so many divs (for example tobago-gridLayout-default
,tobago-tab-link etc..).By changing hte color of which div element will
change the color of layout,also how to quickly identify divs related to the
components?I think Naming conventions are confusing.

Thanks

  


Re: Trinidad vs Tobago

2009-06-05 Thread Christian Groove

Salut Udo,

Hi all,

let me explain the actual status of the Tobago development:

We have branched the development into the tobago-1.0.x branch and the
trunk which is the next major release.

looks like, . that i was wrong. Tobago is still alive, great.




The trunk (1.1.x) is an area of many refactorings and implementation of
new features. But the status is still alpha. Here is a list of issues
for the next major release:

* Reimplementation of the layout management:

(...)

Another topic you may not thought before. Please reactivate the foreach!
I had to code a database driven form with a couple of altering types
of input-fields and selection boxes.
The jsf-page was programmed as a dynamic formular engine. The taglib
met almost all requirements i needed, with one exception: foreach !!!

For this reason i  hat to abuse the table tag, cause this was the only 
remaining

container-element, that acts like a foreach. This solution had one drawback,
the table size does not grow with its contents. So i estimated the size by
couting the containing elements and patch the rows/size of the table, b.

   [stage direction to the audience] time to boo Groovie


Voilá, that was the reason, why i needed foreach!

Groovy



Regards

Udo


Thanks for your good job. Does your company still uses Tobago ?


Re: Trinidad vs Tobago

2009-06-05 Thread Udo Schnurpfeil

Hi Christian,

I know the issue with the forEach. There are many aspects to notice with 
the interation stuff.


I've written a sample for tobago 1.0.x which works with the c:forEach 
from the JSTL.
But this not works with Facelets and also not with JSP-Tag-Files 
(because scriptlets are not allowed).


I think we will find a solution for Tobago 1.1, but I can't promise it 
in the moment.


An other aproach might be using a binding to a UIPanel, an building the 
components with Java-Code.

That is not nice and has some pitfalls, but may a solution for you.

Hope that helps

Udo

Christian Groove schrieb:

Salut Udo,

Hi all,

let me explain the actual status of the Tobago development:

We have branched the development into the tobago-1.0.x branch and the
trunk which is the next major release.

looks like, . that i was wrong. Tobago is still alive, great.




The trunk (1.1.x) is an area of many refactorings and implementation of
new features. But the status is still alpha. Here is a list of issues
for the next major release:

* Reimplementation of the layout management:

(...)

Another topic you may not thought before. Please reactivate the foreach!
I had to code a database driven form with a couple of altering types
of input-fields and selection boxes.
The jsf-page was programmed as a dynamic formular engine. The taglib
met almost all requirements i needed, with one exception: foreach !!!

For this reason i  hat to abuse the table tag, cause this was the only 
remaining
container-element, that acts like a foreach. This solution had one 
drawback,
the table size does not grow with its contents. So i estimated the 
size by
couting the containing elements and patch the rows/size of the table, 
b.


   [stage direction to the audience] time to boo Groovie


Voilá, that was the reason, why i needed foreach!

Groovy



Regards

Udo


Thanks for your good job. Does your company still uses Tobago ?



Re: Trinidad vs Tobago

2009-06-05 Thread Udo Schnurpfeil

I forgot the link:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/tobago/branches/tobago-1.0.x/example/demo/src/main/webapp/best-practice/for-each.jsp

Udo Schnurpfeil schrieb:

Hi Christian,

I know the issue with the forEach. There are many aspects to notice 
with the interation stuff.


I've written a sample for tobago 1.0.x which works with the c:forEach 
from the JSTL.
But this not works with Facelets and also not with JSP-Tag-Files 
(because scriptlets are not allowed).


I think we will find a solution for Tobago 1.1, but I can't promise it 
in the moment.


An other aproach might be using a binding to a UIPanel, an building 
the components with Java-Code.

That is not nice and has some pitfalls, but may a solution for you.

Hope that helps

Udo

Christian Groove schrieb:

Salut Udo,

Hi all,

let me explain the actual status of the Tobago development:

We have branched the development into the tobago-1.0.x branch and the
trunk which is the next major release.

looks like, . that i was wrong. Tobago is still alive, great.




The trunk (1.1.x) is an area of many refactorings and implementation of
new features. But the status is still alpha. Here is a list of issues
for the next major release:

* Reimplementation of the layout management:

(...)

Another topic you may not thought before. Please reactivate the foreach!
I had to code a database driven form with a couple of altering types
of input-fields and selection boxes.
The jsf-page was programmed as a dynamic formular engine. The taglib
met almost all requirements i needed, with one exception: foreach !!!

For this reason i  hat to abuse the table tag, cause this was the 
only remaining
container-element, that acts like a foreach. This solution had one 
drawback,
the table size does not grow with its contents. So i estimated the 
size by
couting the containing elements and patch the rows/size of the table, 
b.


   [stage direction to the audience] time to boo Groovie


Voilá, that was the reason, why i needed foreach!

Groovy



Regards

Udo


Thanks for your good job. Does your company still uses Tobago ?





Re: Trinidad vs Tobago

2009-06-05 Thread Luka Surija

Andrew,
it's always the same reason.
Trinidad is too complicated do extend without strong knowledge:
   1. in it's architecture isn't well documented
   2. in maven-faces-plugin

I'm familiar with your wiki page ( 
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Facelets_and_JSF_1.1_maven-faces-plugin_Getting_started 
) but, as you can see it takes too much effort to make a simple hello 
world component and I think this is a main reason why there is almost no 
new components in last 2 years. I'm using trinidad since m1-incubating 
version and I'm tracking all the changes. In my opinion trinidad is 
potentialy  the  best jsf framework currently available, but it lacks 
some features to make it the best:

1. More components
2. easier component development
3. new AJAX under-layer to track component changes (to allow push 
technology one day). See ICEFaces as a example how to make a framework 
so popular with this technology. But in the background it lacks so many 
thing and nobody cares. I've tried ICEFaces, and for hello world 
application is ok, but for anything more complex, trinidad is 100x 
better and more developer friendly +  has better browser compatibility.

4. wow skin to make him more attractive.

I'm sure that many trinidad users (developers) are willing to contribute 
to the community starting from my self  if they knew how to do it in 
some easier way.


Best regards,

Luka Surija

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Andrew Robinson wrote:

I would not jump to just saying that's totally wrong ... when there
is truth to the observation. I cannot speak for Tobago, but there are
areas of Trinidad that have not significantly changed in years. This
may give the impression that there is not much ongoing development.
What you find with Trinidad is that the server side framework is very
well supported, as well as the components classes, but the Renderers,
skins and JavaScript of Trinidad are very much neglected.

This is probably a result of many that extend Trinidad but do not
necessarily contribute those extensions back. There is a Trinidad
Sandbox, but unlike Tomahawk, there is no activity in it for the most
part. I am not sure why this is and what we can do to motivate our
users to provide new components and enhancements to existing
components.

So as a result, you will probably find that Trinidad is very solid,
the server side keeps up to date with other libraries and with some
new JSF technologies and there is a great community of support at the
framework level. Just what is lacking is active support of the
component offerings and the look and feel of Trinidad.

As Apache relies on its users quite a bit, new patches, and new
components are welcome, especially for the sandbox as it is a great
testing ground for new ideas without having to perform all the
architectural discussions up front. Then components can be brought
into the core as they gain popularity and their architecture can be
standardized if not already.

-Andrew

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:
  

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Christian Groove
groo...@groovesytems.de wrote:


Salut
  

Hi All,

We are developing a web application with myfaces.



That's fine, JSF is the cool think. I worked with
Tobago, that comes with a great layout manager
and some cool widgets.

It is not my intention to overwhelm that nice
project but it seems to be dead. The development
  

that's totally wrong ...



of new widgets seems not to proceed so you may
better look to other Taglibs like Richfaces, Icefaces.

Groovy
  

This application needs proper navigation and UI .I have observed Trinidad
has good navigation practices and other utilities.Tobago has some good
layouts but not good navigation practices.both these technologies have
featurs like PPR.

could some one plaese advice us which is the better technology and the
distinct features of these technologies.

Thanks,
Srikanth





  

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RE: Trinidad maven build errors on WindowsXP

2009-06-05 Thread Mike Quentel
Thank you Matthias; I downloaded the pom.xml, and ensured that the Maven
settings on my computer (C:\maven\apache-maven-2.1.0\conf\settings.xml)
specify: 

profile
  idjdk5.home/id
  activation
activeByDefaulttrue/activeByDefault
  /activation
  properties
jdk5.homeC:\jdk1.5.0_19/jdk5.home
  /properties
/profile

However, I still get the same compile errors.  By default, my JAVA_HOME is
set to 1.6; before running mvn clean install, I do this: 

set JAVA_HOME=C:\jdk1.5.0_19

Then: 

mvn clean install

Still get build errors: 

[ERROR] BUILD FAILURE
[INFO] --
[INFO] Compilation failure
Unable to locate the Javac Compiler in:
  C:\jdk1.5.0_19\..\lib\tools.jar
Please ensure you are using JDK 1.4 or above and
not a JRE (the com.sun.tools.javac.Main class is required).
In most cases you can change the location of your Java
installation by setting the JAVA_HOME environment variable.

Thank you,

Mike Quentel

-Original Message-
From: On Behalf Of Matthias W
Sent: 4 June 2009 22:05
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: Trinidad maven build errors on WindowsXP

hey mike,

I think it is the issue with the JDK profiles.

See my commit (I enabled it again, after I screwed it up before):
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrevision=781495

and the pom.xml has some information as well:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/myfaces/trinidad/trunk/pom.xml

(search for the allow people that use Java6 (or above) as their section)

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Mike Quentel mquen...@4dm-inc.com wrote:
 On WindowsXP workstation...

 1.  I installed JDK1.5 to C:\jdk1.5.0_19

 2.  I have set the settings.xml for Maven to point jdk.5 to C:\jdk1.5.0_19

 3.  I had JDK 1.6 installed on my workstation, then uninstalled it.

 4.  At the command line, I did set JAVA_HOME= C:\jdk1.5.0_19

 5.  When I try to run the command mvn clean install ..

 I still get the following build error:

 [INFO] Compilation failure
 Unable to locate the Javac Compiler in:
  C:\jdk1.5.0_19\..\lib\tools.jar
 Please ensure you are using JDK 1.4 or above and
 not a JRE (the com.sun.tools.javac.Main class is required).
 In most cases you can change the location of your Java
 installation by setting the JAVA_HOME environment variable.

 Please, any advice on how to get this to work?  I only wanted to get some
 kind of Trinidad examples demo WAR file, but I cannot even seem to find a
 properly working version of it at Apache.  I thought that perhaps if I
 download the entire Trinidad trunk via SVN, then attempt to build via MVN,
 I'd get a working demo example.  What would be very helpful is to see a
demo
 of various user controls that includes the actual JSF source (the
irian.net
 examples do not seem to feature this).

 Thanks,

 Mike Quentel






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Re: [TRINIDAD] selectOneChoice ignores contentStyle if readOnly=true

2009-06-05 Thread dushyant agarwal
Hi,I have the same problem. please let me know too if many one has a solution 
to it.
Thanks.Dushyant

--- On Fri, 5/6/09, Carsten Pieper carsten.pie...@continentale.de wrote:

From: Carsten Pieper carsten.pie...@continentale.de
Subject: [TRINIDAD] selectOneChoice ignores contentStyle if readOnly=true
To: users@myfaces.apache.org
Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 1:27 PM


Hi, 

Trinidad's selectOneChoice ignores contentStyle settings if readOnly=true
(we're on Trinidad 1.0.10). Imho, this seems to be a bug. Or is it a feature
;-} ?

Best regards, Carsten
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