RE: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
In the chat it is easy to split of the discussion for a foreign language speaker in a private channel... Lately all of the action is happening in the ##jsf channel (also MyFaces-stuff), therefor the #myfaces-channel is sometimes reused for foreign language discussions... Or should I say: the ##jsf channel is the foreign language channel? The majority of the chatters seems to be not native-english!!! South America, Europe and neareast are ruling ;-) And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. It can help, at least, to formulate the question for the mailing list, but often the solution can also be found. The disadvantage (at least for the #myfaces channel is, that no searchable log exists. ##jsf is logged... Infos about the chat-channels can be found on http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/, scroll down (or search for Talk, talk, talk). See you on chat... Alexander -Original Message- From: Bruno Aranda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:41 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question From my personal experience is not that easy to find someone speaking easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know many cases of people not posting to the list due to the lack of ability to explain its particular problem. Many of them try with automatic translators, but the end message is not always easy to understand. However, I do think that the language of this list should be english, although this can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers of the World. I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, and how other projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative mailing list to support other languages? Cheers, Bruno On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks english and ask them to translate for you. It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic you have going. -Original Message- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: question I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't speak English. What I don't like is when people go off on some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF or MyFaces. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: Re: question personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ... this forum should be open to a wide range of people. So english is strongly recommented. Thanks! On 7/18/06, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener paciencia. Que quieres saber? On 7/18/06, wdiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somebody Spanish speech? soy nuevo en esto de tobago, y deseo obtener información para aprender el manejo -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com This correspondence is for the named persons only. It may contain confidential or privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or relay on any part of this correspondence, if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with the authority, states them to be the opinions of the Department of Emergency Services, Queensland.
Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
2006/7/19, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. Are they exotic languages?? ;-) Cosma
RE: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
ironic Ask George W. /ironic ;-) regards Alexander -Original Message- From: Cosma Colanicchia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:41 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question 2006/7/19, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. Are they exotic languages?? ;-) Cosma
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ironic Ask George W. /ironic ironic2 But then you should add english to the list too /ironic2 Ciao, Mr. Anonymous
RE: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
Would that be English-English, US English or Bush-English? -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:48 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question ironic Ask George W. /ironic ironic2 But then you should add english to the list too /ironic2 Ciao, Mr. Anonymous
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ironic3 Well easy: *english (except bush-english) would be exotic... /ironic3 -Original Message- From: Julian Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:57 PM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: RE: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question Would that be English-English, US English or Bush-English? -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:48 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question ironic Ask George W. /ironic ironic2 But then you should add english to the list too /ironic2 Ciao, Mr. Anonymous
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I am not against other languages... but... well that's not the common world language... and we should address that. spanish list? There is the problem of a split... :) can you bring that up to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list? thanks, matt On 7/19/06, Bruno Aranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my personal experience is not that easy to find someone speaking easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know many cases of people not posting to the list due to the lack of ability to explain its particular problem. Many of them try with automatic translators, but the end message is not always easy to understand. However, I do think that the language of this list should be english, although this can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers of the World. I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, and how other projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative mailing list to support other languages? Cheers, Bruno On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks english and ask them to translate for you. It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic you have going. -Original Message- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: question I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't speak English. What I don't like is when people go off on some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF or MyFaces. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: Re: question personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ... this forum should be open to a wide range of people. So english is strongly recommented. Thanks! On 7/18/06, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener paciencia. Que quieres saber? On 7/18/06, wdiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somebody Spanish speech? soy nuevo en esto de tobago, y deseo obtener información para aprender el manejo -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com This correspondence is for the named persons only. It may contain confidential or privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or relay on any part of this correspondence, if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with the authority, states them to be the opinions of the Department of Emergency Services, Queensland. -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
IRC is interesting for getting people up to speed. But IRC is not the tool that should be used for *technical decission* in MyFaces. Same is true for Google Talk and other stuff. B/c where to look at the archives? It would be interesting to *post* the IRC chat to this (user) list. -Matthias On 7/19/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the chat it is easy to split of the discussion for a foreign language speaker in a private channel... Lately all of the action is happening in the ##jsf channel (also MyFaces-stuff), therefor the #myfaces-channel is sometimes reused for foreign language discussions... Or should I say: the ##jsf channel is the foreign language channel? The majority of the chatters seems to be not native-english!!! South America, Europe and neareast are ruling ;-) And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. It can help, at least, to formulate the question for the mailing list, but often the solution can also be found. The disadvantage (at least for the #myfaces channel is, that no searchable log exists. ##jsf is logged... Infos about the chat-channels can be found on http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/, scroll down (or search for Talk, talk, talk). See you on chat... Alexander -Original Message- From: Bruno Aranda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:41 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question From my personal experience is not that easy to find someone speaking easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know many cases of people not posting to the list due to the lack of ability to explain its particular problem. Many of them try with automatic translators, but the end message is not always easy to understand. However, I do think that the language of this list should be english, although this can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers of the World. I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, and how other projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative mailing list to support other languages? Cheers, Bruno On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks english and ask them to translate for you. It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic you have going. -Original Message- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: question I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't speak English. What I don't like is when people go off on some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF or MyFaces. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: Re: question personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ... this forum should be open to a wide range of people. So english is strongly recommented. Thanks! On 7/18/06, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener paciencia. Que quieres saber? On 7/18/06, wdiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somebody Spanish speech? soy nuevo en esto de tobago, y deseo obtener información para aprender el manejo -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com This correspondence is for the named persons only. It may contain confidential or privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or relay on any part of this correspondence, if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with the authority, states them to be the opinions of the Department of Emergency Services, Queensland. -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
The log is here;http://uwyn.com/droneCheck out the ##jsf link.myfaces chat room is not logged.CagatayOn 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IRC is interesting for getting people up to speed. But IRC is not thetool that should be used for *technical decission* in MyFaces. Same istrue for Google Talk and other stuff.B/c where to look at the archives? It would be interesting to *post* the IRC chat to this (user) list.-MatthiasOn 7/19/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the chat it is easy to split of the discussion for a foreign language speaker in a private channel... Lately all of the action is happening in the ##jsf channel (also MyFaces-stuff), therefor the #myfaces-channel is sometimes reused for foreign language discussions... Or should I say: the ##jsf channel is the foreign language channel? The majority of the chatters seems to be not native-english!!! South America, Europe and neareast are ruling ;-) And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. It can help, at least, to formulate the question for the mailing list, but often the solution can also be found. The disadvantage (at least for the #myfaces channel is, that no searchable log exists. ##jsf is logged... Infos about the chat-channels can be found on http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ , scroll down (or search for Talk, talk, talk). See you on chat... Alexander -Original Message- From: Bruno Aranda [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:41 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question From my personal experience is not that easy to find someone speaking easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know many cases of people not posting to the list due to the lack of ability to explain its particular problem. Many of them try with automatic translators, but the end message is not always easy to understand. However, I do think that the language of this list should be english, although this can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers of the World. I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, and how other projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative mailing list to support other languages? Cheers, Bruno On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks english and ask them to translate for you. It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic you have going. -Original Message- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: question I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't speak English.What I don't like is when people go off on some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF or MyFaces. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: Re: question personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ... this forum should be open to a wide range of people. So english is strongly recommented. Thanks! On 7/18/06, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener paciencia.Que quieressaber? On 7/18/06, wdiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somebody Spanish speech? soy nuevo en esto de tobago, y deseo obtener información para aprender el manejo -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com This correspondence is for the named persons only. It may contain confidential or privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or relay on any part of this correspondence, if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with the authority, states them to be the opinions of the Department of Emergency Services, Queensland. --Matthias Wessendorffurther stuff:blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
On 7/19/06, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The log is here; http://uwyn.com/drone Check out the ##jsf link. myfaces chat room is not logged. that JSF thing I don't care about, to be honest. but the myfaces one... it is a no no to make technical decissions there. -Matt Cagatay On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IRC is interesting for getting people up to speed. But IRC is not the tool that should be used for *technical decission* in MyFaces. Same is true for Google Talk and other stuff. B/c where to look at the archives? It would be interesting to *post* the IRC chat to this (user) list. -Matthias On 7/19/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the chat it is easy to split of the discussion for a foreign language speaker in a private channel... Lately all of the action is happening in the ##jsf channel (also MyFaces-stuff), therefor the #myfaces-channel is sometimes reused for foreign language discussions... Or should I say: the ##jsf channel is the foreign language channel? The majority of the chatters seems to be not native-english!!! South America, Europe and neareast are ruling ;-) And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. It can help, at least, to formulate the question for the mailing list, but often the solution can also be found. The disadvantage (at least for the #myfaces channel is, that no searchable log exists. ##jsf is logged... Infos about the chat-channels can be found on http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ , scroll down (or search for Talk, talk, talk). See you on chat... Alexander -Original Message- From: Bruno Aranda [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:41 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question From my personal experience is not that easy to find someone speaking easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know many cases of people not posting to the list due to the lack of ability to explain its particular problem. Many of them try with automatic translators, but the end message is not always easy to understand. However, I do think that the language of this list should be english, although this can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers of the World. I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, and how other projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative mailing list to support other languages? Cheers, Bruno On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks english and ask them to translate for you. It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic you have going. -Original Message- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: question I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't speak English. What I don't like is when people go off on some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF or MyFaces. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: Re: question personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ... this forum should be open to a wide range of people. So english is strongly recommented. Thanks! On 7/18/06, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener paciencia. Que quieres saber? On 7/18/06, wdiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somebody Spanish speech? soy nuevo en esto de tobago, y deseo obtener información para aprender el manejo -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com This correspondence is for the named persons only. It may contain confidential or privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or relay on any part of this correspondence, if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with the authority, states them to be the opinions of the Department of Emergency Services, Queensland. -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail
RE: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question
when we solve problems there I usually recommend to write interesting points to the wiki... or to the mailing list... on the ##jsf list we often discuss solutions in a implementation agnostic way... and if someone wants to discuss something with the sun people directly it's the place to be... Alexander -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:23 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question On 7/19/06, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The log is here; http://uwyn.com/drone Check out the ##jsf link. myfaces chat room is not logged. that JSF thing I don't care about, to be honest. but the myfaces one... it is a no no to make technical decissions there. -Matt Cagatay On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IRC is interesting for getting people up to speed. But IRC is not the tool that should be used for *technical decission* in MyFaces. Same is true for Google Talk and other stuff. B/c where to look at the archives? It would be interesting to *post* the IRC chat to this (user) list. -Matthias On 7/19/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the chat it is easy to split of the discussion for a foreign language speaker in a private channel... Lately all of the action is happening in the ##jsf channel (also MyFaces-stuff), therefor the #myfaces-channel is sometimes reused for foreign language discussions... Or should I say: the ##jsf channel is the foreign language channel? The majority of the chatters seems to be not native-english!!! South America, Europe and neareast are ruling ;-) And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. It can help, at least, to formulate the question for the mailing list, but often the solution can also be found. The disadvantage (at least for the #myfaces channel is, that no searchable log exists. ##jsf is logged... Infos about the chat-channels can be found on http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ , scroll down (or search for Talk, talk, talk). See you on chat... Alexander -Original Message- From: Bruno Aranda [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:41 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question From my personal experience is not that easy to find someone speaking easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know many cases of people not posting to the list due to the lack of ability to explain its particular problem. Many of them try with automatic translators, but the end message is not always easy to understand. However, I do think that the language of this list should be english, although this can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers of the World. I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, and how other projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative mailing list to support other languages? Cheers, Bruno On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks english and ask them to translate for you. It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic you have going. -Original Message- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: question I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't speak English. What I don't like is when people go off on some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF or MyFaces. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: Re: question personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ... this forum should be open to a wide range of people. So english is strongly recommented. Thanks! On 7/18/06, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener paciencia. Que quieres saber? On 7/18/06, wdiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somebody Spanish speech? soy nuevo en esto de tobago, y deseo obtener información para aprender el manejo -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http
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I am not against IRC, but it's sorta pain in the ass, to get that information to the people :) Recommend to write wiki/mail is a nice thing. great. but they need to do that :) ##jsf is more RI/Spec releated than that #myfaces list ;) -Matthias On 7/19/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when we solve problems there I usually recommend to write interesting points to the wiki... or to the mailing list... on the ##jsf list we often discuss solutions in a implementation agnostic way... and if someone wants to discuss something with the sun people directly it's the place to be... Alexander -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessendorf Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:23 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question On 7/19/06, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The log is here; http://uwyn.com/drone Check out the ##jsf link. myfaces chat room is not logged. that JSF thing I don't care about, to be honest. but the myfaces one... it is a no no to make technical decissions there. -Matt Cagatay On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IRC is interesting for getting people up to speed. But IRC is not the tool that should be used for *technical decission* in MyFaces. Same is true for Google Talk and other stuff. B/c where to look at the archives? It would be interesting to *post* the IRC chat to this (user) list. -Matthias On 7/19/06, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the chat it is easy to split of the discussion for a foreign language speaker in a private channel... Lately all of the action is happening in the ##jsf channel (also MyFaces-stuff), therefor the #myfaces-channel is sometimes reused for foreign language discussions... Or should I say: the ##jsf channel is the foreign language channel? The majority of the chatters seems to be not native-english!!! South America, Europe and neareast are ruling ;-) And there are often people around speaking exotic languages like German, Spanish, Italian and others. It can help, at least, to formulate the question for the mailing list, but often the solution can also be found. The disadvantage (at least for the #myfaces channel is, that no searchable log exists. ##jsf is logged... Infos about the chat-channels can be found on http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ , scroll down (or search for Talk, talk, talk). See you on chat... Alexander -Original Message- From: Bruno Aranda [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:41 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: [OT] Mailing list Support in other languages, was Re: question From my personal experience is not that easy to find someone speaking easy in places like Spain or South America. I do know many cases of people not posting to the list due to the lack of ability to explain its particular problem. Many of them try with automatic translators, but the end message is not always easy to understand. However, I do think that the language of this list should be english, although this can be a limitation for a sensible part of developers of the World. I do not know what is the official policy at the ASF, and how other projects handle that. But couldn't exist alternative mailing list to support other languages? Cheers, Bruno On 7/19/06, Dhananjay Prasanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's that hard to find someone who speaks english and ask them to translate for you. It would be nice (not to mention much more useful) for everyone to be able to participate in whatever topic you have going. -Original Message- From: Dennis Byrne [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 3:59 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: question I don't mind non-English posts, many users simply don't speak English. What I don't like is when people go off on some long discussion that has nothing to do with JSF or MyFaces. Dennis Byrne -Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 01:50 AM To: 'MyFaces Discussion' Subject: Re: question personally I don't mind if you guys speak Spanish, but ... this forum should be open to a wide range of people. So english is strongly recommented. Thanks! On 7/18/06, CD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puedo hablarlo un poquito pero tienes que tener paciencia. Que quieres saber? On 7/18/06, wdiaz
