IMPORTANT: Community Acceptance Survey for Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0
Hi all, Please make sure to spend about 5 minutes filling out this brief survey about your experiences using Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0. To fill out the survey, you do not need to build Apache NetBeans from sources, you do not need to Git clone anything, you simply need to use the Vote Candidate 3 build of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0, do your normal Java SE development work with it, and report on your findings in terms of features, performance, etc, as described in the survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfw1WT1HDjR-nPMcXn8gBCQXk5k3IiXSoXW85FZezaPQQzGTQ/viewform The more people filling in the above, the better an impression we can gather across the user community of how Apache NetBeans works for them. Many thanks for your time -- we need 5 minutes of it for the above! Gj
Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
On 07/14/2018 10:49 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > Source level is set to 9, Java platform is JDK10. Running under OpenJDK > 10. I was also on the profiler tribe for NetCAT. We only tested against > 8 and 10 since we knew that 9 would be superseded by the time NetBeans > 9.0 was released. Tried with both Maven and Ant project types. P.S. This was under Linux (Debian "Stretch"). -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Netbeans 9 profiler
On 07/14/2018 05:59 AM, Peter Hull wrote:
> Do you agree that there are two (probably independent) problems here,
> first the reflection warning, second the JVM crash? (I'm assuming this
> is reproducible for everyone?)
I don't get the VM crash. Followed Alan's steps:
> Create new java application with main class.
> Add System.out.println("Hello world");
> Change java platform to java9 (properties).
> Change source/binary format to java9 (properties).
> Run profiler, methods, all classes.
Source level is set to 9, Java platform is JDK10. Running under OpenJDK
10. I was also on the profiler tribe for NetCAT. We only tested against
8 and 10 since we knew that 9 would be superseded by the time NetBeans
9.0 was released. Tried with both Maven and Ant project types.
Profiler Agent: Waiting for connection on port 5140, timeout 10 seconds
(Protocol version: 18)
Profiler Agent: Established connection with the tool
WARNING: An illegal reflective access operation has occurred
WARNING: Illegal reflective access by
org.netbeans.lib.profiler.server.ClassLoaderManager to method
java.lang.ClassLoader.findLoadedClass(java.lang.String)
WARNING: Please consider reporting this to the maintainers of
org.netbeans.lib.profiler.server.ClassLoaderManager
WARNING: Use --illegal-access=warn to enable warnings of further illegal
reflective access operations
WARNING: All illegal access operations will be denied in a future release
Profiler Agent: Local accelerated session
Profiler Agent: Initializing...
Profiler Agent: Options:
>/mnt/common/netbeans-9.0/netbeans/profiler/lib,5140,10<
Profiler Agent: Initialized successfully
Profiler Agent: 250 classes cached.
Profiler Agent: 250 classes cached.
Profiler Agent: 250 classes cached.
Profiler Agent: 250 classes cached.
Profiler Agent: 250 classes cached.
Hello World
Profiler Agent: Connection with agent closed
Profiler Agent: Connection with agent closed
Profiler Agent: 250 classes cached.
BUILD SUCCESS
Total time: 7.359 s
Finished at: 2018-07-14T10:37:19-05:00
Final Memory: 7M/34M
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Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
Hi Everyone, I also have no issues with the profiler (ran through the same steps as outlined by Alan) on OS X 10.13.5. I was part of the NetCAT for profiler as well. I am leaning towards a Windows-specific issue perhaps. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Sven Reimers wrote: > Hi all.. > > I was part of the NetCat Profiler tribe and I remember having some > problems in the early phase but nothing later on... > > I am using OS X... so maybe something > specific with Windows? > > What version of Windows are you using... > > @NetCat anyone able to reproduce? > > I still have to check the crashdump... > > But probably some feedback grom the JBS may be helpful > > -Sven > > Geertjan Wielenga schrieb am > Sa., 14. Juli 2018, 11:39: > >> That’s correct vc3 is the one to use. >> >> Note that at this stage it is very unlikely we’re going to fix anything >> for the 9.0 release. That is set to be released in August, the voting going >> well so far. However, we intend to have quarterly releases and this can be >> included in the next release — note that some problems in the Profiler area >> have already been fixed and so this must be something different. >> >> I hope you understand. We can’t create another whole new build and >> restart voting from scratch at this stage, unless we as a community decide >> that this is what must be done, delaying the release significantly. >> >> Gj >> >> >> On Saturday, July 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: >> >>> Obviously I can't speak for anyone else, but I am using vc3 which I >>> understand is the latest version (newer than rc1, is that correct?) >>> Pete >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 at 08:02 Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Are you using rc1 or the vc3 build? See blogs.apache.org/netbeans. Thanks, Gj On Saturday, July 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM Glenn Holmer > wrote: > > > > [Sorry if this appears twice, T-bird crashed while sending.] > I only saw it once! > > > Yes, I couldn't find it either. FYI, this was reported during NetCAT: > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-298 > I'm not sure it's the same thing; Alan's report does include that > reflection warning, but there's also a 'hard' crash in the JVM itself > where it gets a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. > > Pete > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
Hi all.. I was part of the NetCat Profiler tribe and I remember having some problems in the early phase but nothing later on... I am using OS X... so maybe something specific with Windows? What version of Windows are you using... @NetCat anyone able to reproduce? I still have to check the crashdump... But probably some feedback grom the JBS may be helpful -Sven Geertjan Wielenga schrieb am Sa., 14. Juli 2018, 11:39: > That’s correct vc3 is the one to use. > > Note that at this stage it is very unlikely we’re going to fix anything > for the 9.0 release. That is set to be released in August, the voting going > well so far. However, we intend to have quarterly releases and this can be > included in the next release — note that some problems in the Profiler area > have already been fixed and so this must be something different. > > I hope you understand. We can’t create another whole new build and restart > voting from scratch at this stage, unless we as a community decide that > this is what must be done, delaying the release significantly. > > Gj > > > On Saturday, July 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: > >> Obviously I can't speak for anyone else, but I am using vc3 which I >> understand is the latest version (newer than rc1, is that correct?) >> Pete >> >> >> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 at 08:02 Geertjan Wielenga < >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> Are you using rc1 or the vc3 build? >>> >>> See blogs.apache.org/netbeans. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, July 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM Glenn Holmer wrote: > > [Sorry if this appears twice, T-bird crashed while sending.] I only saw it once! > Yes, I couldn't find it either. FYI, this was reported during NetCAT: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-298 I'm not sure it's the same thing; Alan's report does include that reflection warning, but there's also a 'hard' crash in the JVM itself where it gets a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
Well, I’m a little bit surprised by these developments since fixes have been put in specificslly to enable the Profiler to work with JDK 9 and 10, by Sven Reimers and Jan Lahoda, so a bit more investigation needs to be done before drawing any conclusions here. Gj On Saturday, July 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > I hope you understand. We can’t create another whole new build and > restart voting from scratch at this stage, unless we as a community decide > that this is what must be done, delaying the release significantly. > I do understand. > Do you agree that there are two (probably independent) problems here, > first the reflection warning, second the JVM crash? (I'm assuming this > is reproducible for everyone?) > The first is NETBEANS-298 and it is a warning that can be dealt with > in a future release. > The second is not Netbean's fault - as I understand it, it should not > be possible to crash the JVM like this from Java code (correct me if > I'm wrong!). Alan has reported this to Oracle and I will be interested > to see the response. However, wherever the problem lies, the result is > that NB's profiler doesn't work. Is there a JIRA issue filed on this? > The community may decide this is a blocker but they can't judge that > if there's no issue on record. > Thanks as always for your help on this. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > I hope you understand. We can’t create another whole new build and restart > voting from scratch at this stage, unless we as a community decide that this > is what must be done, delaying the release significantly. I do understand. Do you agree that there are two (probably independent) problems here, first the reflection warning, second the JVM crash? (I'm assuming this is reproducible for everyone?) The first is NETBEANS-298 and it is a warning that can be dealt with in a future release. The second is not Netbean's fault - as I understand it, it should not be possible to crash the JVM like this from Java code (correct me if I'm wrong!). Alan has reported this to Oracle and I will be interested to see the response. However, wherever the problem lies, the result is that NB's profiler doesn't work. Is there a JIRA issue filed on this? The community may decide this is a blocker but they can't judge that if there's no issue on record. Thanks as always for your help on this. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
Obviously I can't speak for anyone else, but I am using vc3 which I understand is the latest version (newer than rc1, is that correct?) Pete On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 at 08:02 Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Are you using rc1 or the vc3 build? > > See blogs.apache.org/netbeans. > > Thanks, > > Gj > > > On Saturday, July 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM Glenn Holmer >> wrote: >> > >> > [Sorry if this appears twice, T-bird crashed while sending.] >> I only saw it once! >> >> > Yes, I couldn't find it either. FYI, this was reported during NetCAT: >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-298 >> I'm not sure it's the same thing; Alan's report does include that >> reflection warning, but there's also a 'hard' crash in the JVM itself >> where it gets a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. >> >> Pete >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >>
Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
Are you using rc1 or the vc3 build? See blogs.apache.org/netbeans. Thanks, Gj On Saturday, July 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM Glenn Holmer > wrote: > > > > [Sorry if this appears twice, T-bird crashed while sending.] > I only saw it once! > > > Yes, I couldn't find it either. FYI, this was reported during NetCAT: > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-298 > I'm not sure it's the same thing; Alan's report does include that > reflection warning, but there's also a 'hard' crash in the JVM itself > where it gets a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. > > Pete > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
Re: Netbeans 9 profiler
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM Glenn Holmer wrote: > > [Sorry if this appears twice, T-bird crashed while sending.] I only saw it once! > Yes, I couldn't find it either. FYI, this was reported during NetCAT: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-298 I'm not sure it's the same thing; Alan's report does include that reflection warning, but there's also a 'hard' crash in the JVM itself where it gets a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
