Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ?
The RCP is still supported and will be. I don't think 9.0 versus 10.0 will matter in terms of RCP, so if you have to pick something, go with the latest version. Backporting stuff for 6.9.1 might be an option depending how expensive the migration is going to be, but I think there's value in the migration itself. --emi On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 7:13 PM tanas gjorgoski wrote: > > Hi, > > The company I work for has an UI app built using the Netbeans Rich Client > Platform (RCP) 6.9.1 version. It has stopped working under JDK 9, and I got > the job of figuring out what to do. > I think it would be best if we can move to Netbeans 9.0, instead of patching > the 6.9.1 code. But before I look into it , I thought to ask: > a) is the RCP still supported as part of Netbeans 9.0 > b) given that I expect the work might take possibly a month - is it better to > look into moving to 10.0? > c) is the support for the RCP planned to continue in future? > > Thanks, > Tanas Gjorgoski > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ?
Thanks Eirik! That definitely seems like a promising path to take. Also thanks for the script you attached to the jira ticket, it should be a big help! > On 19 Oct 2018, at 15:55, Eirik Bakke wrote: > >> That is - the Netbeans Platform code itself needs first to be built (using >> "regular" ant build?) and put in maven repo? > That's exactly right. (At least until > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-467 is resolved.) > >> I'm asking because I would like to keep it possible for us to be able to >> make modifications in the Netbeans Platform code too. > Yes, then it makes sense to always build the platform sources yourself and > populate your local maven repository using the nb-repository-plugin Maven > plugin. That's what I do with my own platform application. > > > -Original Message- > From: tanas gjorgoski > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:10 AM > To: Neil C Smith > Cc: Eirik Bakke ; users@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP > 6.9.1 to 9.0 ? > > Thanks for the link Neil! > > I read through the text. Am I right thinking that in this case the Netbeans > Platform jars are maven dependency of the App, and they are downloaded from a > maven repo? > That is - the Netbeans Platform code itself needs first to be built (using > "regular" ant build?) and put in maven repo? > I'm asking because I would like to keep it possible for us to be able to make > modifications in the Netbeans Platform code too. > > Thanks, > Tanas > > >> On 19 Oct 2018, at 12:17, Neil C Smith wrote: >> >> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:08, tanas gjorgoski wrote: >>> It seems we are using ant build, but with a gradle wrapper which injects >>> the maven dependencies. >>> Looking at our code I'm under impression that ant is the only option, do >>> newer versions support building the Netbeans Platform apps using maven too? >>> If so, that would be great! >> >> I have a feeling 6.9 did! ;-) >> https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/69/nbm-maven-quickstart.html >> >> Interesting you're doing that with a gradle wrapper - wonder if anyone >> has used Ivy with the RCP? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Neil >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
RE: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ?
> That is - the Netbeans Platform code itself needs first to be built (using > "regular" ant build?) and put in maven repo? That's exactly right. (At least until https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-467 is resolved.) > I'm asking because I would like to keep it possible for us to be able to make > modifications in the Netbeans Platform code too. Yes, then it makes sense to always build the platform sources yourself and populate your local maven repository using the nb-repository-plugin Maven plugin. That's what I do with my own platform application. -Original Message- From: tanas gjorgoski Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:10 AM To: Neil C Smith Cc: Eirik Bakke ; users@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ? Thanks for the link Neil! I read through the text. Am I right thinking that in this case the Netbeans Platform jars are maven dependency of the App, and they are downloaded from a maven repo? That is - the Netbeans Platform code itself needs first to be built (using "regular" ant build?) and put in maven repo? I'm asking because I would like to keep it possible for us to be able to make modifications in the Netbeans Platform code too. Thanks, Tanas > On 19 Oct 2018, at 12:17, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:08, tanas gjorgoski wrote: >> It seems we are using ant build, but with a gradle wrapper which injects the >> maven dependencies. >> Looking at our code I'm under impression that ant is the only option, do >> newer versions support building the Netbeans Platform apps using maven too? >> If so, that would be great! > > I have a feeling 6.9 did! ;-) > https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/69/nbm-maven-quickstart.html > > Interesting you're doing that with a gradle wrapper - wonder if anyone > has used Ivy with the RCP? > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
RE: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ?
> do newer versions support building the Netbeans Platform apps using maven too? Yes--myself I moved from Ant to Maven for my own platform app a few years ago. It works great. (Note that for maven builds, platform developers must build the platform artifacts themselves using the nb-repository-plugin until https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-467 is resolved. I added a comment to that bug with the commands I used.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: tanas gjorgoski Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:08 AM To: Eirik Bakke Cc: NetBeans Mailing List Subject: Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ? Thanks Eric! It seems we are using ant build, but with a gradle wrapper which injects the maven dependencies. Looking at our code I'm under impression that ant is the only option, do newer versions support building the Netbeans Platform apps using maven too? If so, that would be great! Tanas > On 19 Oct 2018, at 03:47, Eirik Bakke wrote: > > Hi, Tanas. > >> It has stopped working under JDK 9, and I got the job of figuring out what >> to do. > Yes, you'll need to use the 9.0 version of the NetBeans Platform or above to > work with Java 9 or above. > > a) is the RCP still supported as part of Netbeans 9.0 Yes! I'm > maintaining a NetBeans Platform (=RCP) application myself. > > b) given that I expect the work might take possibly a month - is it better to > look into moving to 10.0? > Yes, I'd move to 10.0. There's not a substantial difference from 9.0 to 10.0 > from an RCP point of view, just lots of bugfixes. > > I'd start by moving to 8.2 (the last pre-Apache version) and fixing any > issues you get up to that point. Then you can switch to 10. If you hit too > many problems at once, just go up one version at the time. > > c) is the support for the RCP planned to continue in future? > As long as NetBeans exists as an IDE, the RCP will continue to work. The > NetBeans IDE is just another NetBeans Platform application. > > Which build system are you using--ant or maven? > > -- Eirik > > -Original Message- > From: tanas gjorgoski > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:14 PM > To: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to > 9.0 ? > > Hi, > > The company I work for has an UI app built using the Netbeans Rich Client > Platform (RCP) 6.9.1 version. It has stopped working under JDK 9, and I got > the job of figuring out what to do. > I think it would be best if we can move to Netbeans 9.0, instead of patching > the 6.9.1 code. But before I look into it , I thought to ask: > a) is the RCP still supported as part of Netbeans 9.0 > b) given that I expect the work might take possibly a month - is it better to > look into moving to 10.0? > c) is the support for the RCP planned to continue in future? > > Thanks, > Tanas Gjorgoski > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ?
Thanks for the link Neil! I read through the text. Am I right thinking that in this case the Netbeans Platform jars are maven dependency of the App, and they are downloaded from a maven repo? That is - the Netbeans Platform code itself needs first to be built (using "regular" ant build?) and put in maven repo? I'm asking because I would like to keep it possible for us to be able to make modifications in the Netbeans Platform code too. Thanks, Tanas > On 19 Oct 2018, at 12:17, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:08, tanas gjorgoski wrote: >> It seems we are using ant build, but with a gradle wrapper which injects the >> maven dependencies. >> Looking at our code I'm under impression that ant is the only option, do >> newer versions support building the Netbeans Platform apps using maven too? >> If so, that would be great! > > I have a feeling 6.9 did! ;-) > https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/69/nbm-maven-quickstart.html > > Interesting you're doing that with a gradle wrapper - wonder if anyone > has used Ivy with the RCP? > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ?
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:08, tanas gjorgoski wrote: > It seems we are using ant build, but with a gradle wrapper which injects the > maven dependencies. > Looking at our code I'm under impression that ant is the only option, do > newer versions support building the Netbeans Platform apps using maven too? > If so, that would be great! I have a feeling 6.9 did! ;-) https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/69/nbm-maven-quickstart.html Interesting you're doing that with a gradle wrapper - wonder if anyone has used Ivy with the RCP? Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to 9.0 ?
Thanks Eric! It seems we are using ant build, but with a gradle wrapper which injects the maven dependencies. Looking at our code I'm under impression that ant is the only option, do newer versions support building the Netbeans Platform apps using maven too? If so, that would be great! Tanas > On 19 Oct 2018, at 03:47, Eirik Bakke wrote: > > Hi, Tanas. > >> It has stopped working under JDK 9, and I got the job of figuring out what >> to do. > Yes, you'll need to use the 9.0 version of the NetBeans Platform or above to > work with Java 9 or above. > > a) is the RCP still supported as part of Netbeans 9.0 > Yes! I'm maintaining a NetBeans Platform (=RCP) application myself. > > b) given that I expect the work might take possibly a month - is it better to > look into moving to 10.0? > Yes, I'd move to 10.0. There's not a substantial difference from 9.0 to 10.0 > from an RCP point of view, just lots of bugfixes. > > I'd start by moving to 8.2 (the last pre-Apache version) and fixing any > issues you get up to that point. Then you can switch to 10. If you hit too > many problems at once, just go up one version at the time. > > c) is the support for the RCP planned to continue in future? > As long as NetBeans exists as an IDE, the RCP will continue to work. The > NetBeans IDE is just another NetBeans Platform application. > > Which build system are you using--ant or maven? > > -- Eirik > > -Original Message- > From: tanas gjorgoski > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:14 PM > To: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: [rcp][platform] Moving UI application based on Netbeans RCP 6.9.1 to > 9.0 ? > > Hi, > > The company I work for has an UI app built using the Netbeans Rich Client > Platform (RCP) 6.9.1 version. It has stopped working under JDK 9, and I got > the job of figuring out what to do. > I think it would be best if we can move to Netbeans 9.0, instead of patching > the 6.9.1 code. But before I look into it , I thought to ask: > a) is the RCP still supported as part of Netbeans 9.0 > b) given that I expect the work might take possibly a month - is it better to > look into moving to 10.0? > c) is the support for the RCP planned to continue in future? > > Thanks, > Tanas Gjorgoski > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
