Re: Beansbinding

[Emilian Bold]

The binding module has a dependency on the javac API wrapper which is
a dummy unless nb-javac is installed. Ugh.

--emi

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On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 9:51 PM Emilian Bold  wrote:
>
> See https://github.com/emilianbold/nb-apache-form-binding/releases/tag/emi-1.0
>
> Get the recompiled plugin from there.
>
> --emi
>
> http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 4:23 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
> >
> > Here's the reason for the problem you're having, i.e,, you could simply 
> > recompile the sources of the plugin and then provide a PR to the repo:
> >
> > https://github.com/GrolarDan/nb-apache-form-binding/issues/2
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:56 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> The mailing list works like any other mailing list.
> >>
> >> BeansBinding is GPL licensed so cannot be distributed by an Apache 
> >> project: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/300
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:50 PM Thomas Willms  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> how does the mailing list work?
> >>> Who can help me with the following problem of beans binding?
> >>>   Could you integrate Beans binding again or help me  using it ?
> >>>
> >>> Why is it said to be integrated in NB 10 but does not work?
> >>>  I used it in older software where I need it now and want to use it 
> >>> further. So this blocks me totally
> >>>   I found a plug-in
> >>> [http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/74915/beans-binding-support-for-form-editor]
> >>>  but using it I get the   messages below:
> >>>   Can you tell me how to use Netbeans with it?
> >>> Whatever I install does not work. Like below plug-in versions do not 
> >>> correspond.
> >>>   Why updates of plug-ins does not give the right version to use it?
> >>> Which version of Netbeans do I need?
> >>> I already wasted a lot of time and  I do not know to whom I could 
> >>> address...
> >>>
> >>>  Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Thomas
> >>>
> >>> >Some plugins require plugin Classpath APIs to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Classpath APIs is requested in version >= 1.57 but only 
> >>> > 1.56.1 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Javac API Wrapper to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Javac API Wrapper is requested in version >= 8.25.0.3 but 
> >>> > only 8.24.1.3 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin NetBeans Form Editor to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin NetBeans Form Editor is requested in version >= 0.22.0.1.4 
> >>> > but only 0.21.1.1.4 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Form Editor to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Form Editor is requested in version >= 1.61.0.4 but only 
> >>> > 1.60.1.4 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Java Source Base to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Java Source Base is requested in version >= 
> >>> > 2.39.0.4.3.25.8.1 but only 2.37.1.4.3.25.8.1 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin External Libraries to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin External Libraries is requested in version >= 1.57 but only 
> >>> > 1.56.1 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin File System API to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin File System API is requested in version >= 9.14 but only 
> >>> > 9.13.1 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Datasystems API to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Datasystems API is requested in version >= 7.71 but only 
> >>> > 7.70.1 was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Nodes API to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Nodes API is requested in version >= 7.49 but only 7.48.1 
> >>> > was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Lookup API to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Lookup API is requested in version >= 8.37 but only 8.36.1 
> >>> > was found.
> >>> > The following plugin is affected:
> >>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> >>> > Some plugins require plugin Utilities API to be installed.
> >>> > The plugin Utilities API is requested in version >= 9.12 but only 
> >>> > 9.11.1 was found.
> >>> > The following 

Re: Beansbinding

[Emilian Bold]

See https://github.com/emilianbold/nb-apache-form-binding/releases/tag/emi-1.0

Get the recompiled plugin from there.

--emi

http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 4:23 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
>
> Here's the reason for the problem you're having, i.e,, you could simply 
> recompile the sources of the plugin and then provide a PR to the repo:
>
> https://github.com/GrolarDan/nb-apache-form-binding/issues/2
>
> Gj
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:56 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
>  wrote:
>>
>> The mailing list works like any other mailing list.
>>
>> BeansBinding is GPL licensed so cannot be distributed by an Apache project: 
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/300
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:50 PM Thomas Willms  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> how does the mailing list work?
>>> Who can help me with the following problem of beans binding?
>>>   Could you integrate Beans binding again or help me  using it ?
>>>
>>> Why is it said to be integrated in NB 10 but does not work?
>>>  I used it in older software where I need it now and want to use it 
>>> further. So this blocks me totally
>>>   I found a plug-in
>>> [http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/74915/beans-binding-support-for-form-editor]
>>>  but using it I get the   messages below:
>>>   Can you tell me how to use Netbeans with it?
>>> Whatever I install does not work. Like below plug-in versions do not 
>>> correspond.
>>>   Why updates of plug-ins does not give the right version to use it?
>>> Which version of Netbeans do I need?
>>> I already wasted a lot of time and  I do not know to whom I could address...
>>>
>>>  Thanks
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> >Some plugins require plugin Classpath APIs to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Classpath APIs is requested in version >= 1.57 but only 1.56.1 
>>> > was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Javac API Wrapper to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Javac API Wrapper is requested in version >= 8.25.0.3 but only 
>>> > 8.24.1.3 was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin NetBeans Form Editor to be installed.
>>> > The plugin NetBeans Form Editor is requested in version >= 0.22.0.1.4 but 
>>> > only 0.21.1.1.4 was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Form Editor to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Form Editor is requested in version >= 1.61.0.4 but only 
>>> > 1.60.1.4 was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Java Source Base to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Java Source Base is requested in version >= 2.39.0.4.3.25.8.1 
>>> > but only 2.37.1.4.3.25.8.1 was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin External Libraries to be installed.
>>> > The plugin External Libraries is requested in version >= 1.57 but only 
>>> > 1.56.1 was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin File System API to be installed.
>>> > The plugin File System API is requested in version >= 9.14 but only 
>>> > 9.13.1 was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Datasystems API to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Datasystems API is requested in version >= 7.71 but only 
>>> > 7.70.1 was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Nodes API to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Nodes API is requested in version >= 7.49 but only 7.48.1 was 
>>> > found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Lookup API to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Lookup API is requested in version >= 8.37 but only 8.36.1 was 
>>> > found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > Some plugins require plugin Utilities API to be installed.
>>> > The plugin Utilities API is requested in version >= 9.12 but only 9.11.1 
>>> > was found.
>>> > The following plugin is affected:
>>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>>> > Some plugins not installed to avoid potential installation problems.
>>> >
>>> >

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RE: waiting for connection (xdebug)

[Jake Ochs]

I was going to file a bug report for other issues relating to NB10 XDebug 
issues. I haven’t tried to replicate your issue, I’l lfire up a VirtualBox 
Linux session with your environment to try and replicate the issue.




From: Lucio 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 6:46:09 AM
To: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: waiting for connection (xdebug)

I wrote:

 > Do you agree? Or am I overlooking something? Should I file a bug
 > report?

I'm not sure about how to read the lack of replies in this case, anyway
here is the bug report with a few more info, just in case anyone wants
to chime in from now on:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1959

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Re: Beansbinding

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Here's the reason for the problem you're having, i.e,, you could simply
recompile the sources of the plugin and then provide a PR to the repo:

https://github.com/GrolarDan/nb-apache-form-binding/issues/2

Gj

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:56 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> The mailing list works like any other mailing list.
>
> BeansBinding is GPL licensed so cannot be distributed by an Apache
> project: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/300
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:50 PM Thomas Willms  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> how does the mailing list work?
>> Who can help me with the following problem of beans binding?
>>   Could you integrate Beans binding again or help me  using it ?
>>
>> Why is it said to be integrated in NB 10 but does not work?
>>  I used it in older software where I need it now and want to use it
>> further. So this blocks me totally
>>   I found a plug-in
>> [
>> http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/74915/beans-binding-support-for-form-editor
>> ]
>>  but using it I get the   messages below:
>>   Can you tell me how to use Netbeans with it?
>> Whatever I install does not work. Like below plug-in versions do not
>> correspond.
>>   Why updates of plug-ins does not give the right version to use it?
>> Which version of Netbeans do I need?
>> I already wasted a lot of time and  I do not know to whom I could
>> address...
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> >Some plugins require plugin Classpath APIs to be installed.
>> > The plugin Classpath APIs is requested in version >= 1.57 but only
>> 1.56.1 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Javac API Wrapper to be installed.
>> > The plugin Javac API Wrapper is requested in version >= 8.25.0.3 but
>> only 8.24.1.3 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin NetBeans Form Editor to be installed.
>> > The plugin NetBeans Form Editor is requested in version >= 0.22.0.1.4
>> but only 0.21.1.1.4 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Form Editor to be installed.
>> > The plugin Form Editor is requested in version >= 1.61.0.4 but only
>> 1.60.1.4 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Java Source Base to be installed.
>> > The plugin Java Source Base is requested in version >=
>> 2.39.0.4.3.25.8.1 but only 2.37.1.4.3.25.8.1 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin External Libraries to be installed.
>> > The plugin External Libraries is requested in version >= 1.57 but only
>> 1.56.1 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin File System API to be installed.
>> > The plugin File System API is requested in version >= 9.14 but only
>> 9.13.1 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Datasystems API to be installed.
>> > The plugin Datasystems API is requested in version >= 7.71 but only
>> 7.70.1 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Nodes API to be installed.
>> > The plugin Nodes API is requested in version >= 7.49 but only 7.48.1
>> was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Lookup API to be installed.
>> > The plugin Lookup API is requested in version >= 8.37 but only 8.36.1
>> was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > Some plugins require plugin Utilities API to be installed.
>> > The plugin Utilities API is requested in version >= 9.12 but only
>> 9.11.1 was found.
>> > The following plugin is affected:
>> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
>> > Some plugins not installed to avoid potential installation problems.
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: Beansbinding

[Geertjan Wielenga]

The mailing list works like any other mailing list.

BeansBinding is GPL licensed so cannot be distributed by an Apache project:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/300

Gj


On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:50 PM Thomas Willms  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> how does the mailing list work?
> Who can help me with the following problem of beans binding?
>   Could you integrate Beans binding again or help me  using it ?
>
> Why is it said to be integrated in NB 10 but does not work?
>  I used it in older software where I need it now and want to use it
> further. So this blocks me totally
>   I found a plug-in
> [
> http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/74915/beans-binding-support-for-form-editor
> ]
>  but using it I get the   messages below:
>   Can you tell me how to use Netbeans with it?
> Whatever I install does not work. Like below plug-in versions do not
> correspond.
>   Why updates of plug-ins does not give the right version to use it?
> Which version of Netbeans do I need?
> I already wasted a lot of time and  I do not know to whom I could
> address...
>
>  Thanks
>
> Thomas
>
> >Some plugins require plugin Classpath APIs to be installed.
> > The plugin Classpath APIs is requested in version >= 1.57 but only
> 1.56.1 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Javac API Wrapper to be installed.
> > The plugin Javac API Wrapper is requested in version >= 8.25.0.3 but
> only 8.24.1.3 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin NetBeans Form Editor to be installed.
> > The plugin NetBeans Form Editor is requested in version >= 0.22.0.1.4
> but only 0.21.1.1.4 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Form Editor to be installed.
> > The plugin Form Editor is requested in version >= 1.61.0.4 but only
> 1.60.1.4 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Java Source Base to be installed.
> > The plugin Java Source Base is requested in version >= 2.39.0.4.3.25.8.1
> but only 2.37.1.4.3.25.8.1 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin External Libraries to be installed.
> > The plugin External Libraries is requested in version >= 1.57 but only
> 1.56.1 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin File System API to be installed.
> > The plugin File System API is requested in version >= 9.14 but only
> 9.13.1 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Datasystems API to be installed.
> > The plugin Datasystems API is requested in version >= 7.71 but only
> 7.70.1 was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Nodes API to be installed.
> > The plugin Nodes API is requested in version >= 7.49 but only 7.48.1 was
> found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > h3. Some plugins require plugin Lookup API to be installed.
> > The plugin Lookup API is requested in version >= 8.37 but only 8.36.1
> was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > Some plugins require plugin Utilities API to be installed.
> > The plugin Utilities API is requested in version >= 9.12 but only 9.11.1
> was found.
> > The following plugin is affected:
> >   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> > Some plugins not installed to avoid potential installation problems.
> >
> >
>

Beansbinding

[Thomas Willms]

Hello,

how does the mailing list work?
Who can help me with the following problem of beans binding?
  Could you integrate Beans binding again or help me  using it ?

Why is it said to be integrated in NB 10 but does not work?
 I used it in older software where I need it now and want to use it
further. So this blocks me totally
  I found a plug-in
[
http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/74915/beans-binding-support-for-form-editor
]
 but using it I get the   messages below:
  Can you tell me how to use Netbeans with it?
Whatever I install does not work. Like below plug-in versions do not
correspond.
  Why updates of plug-ins does not give the right version to use it?
Which version of Netbeans do I need?
I already wasted a lot of time and  I do not know to whom I could address...

 Thanks

Thomas

>Some plugins require plugin Classpath APIs to be installed.
> The plugin Classpath APIs is requested in version >= 1.57 but only 1.56.1
was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin Javac API Wrapper to be installed.
> The plugin Javac API Wrapper is requested in version >= 8.25.0.3 but only
8.24.1.3 was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin NetBeans Form Editor to be installed.
> The plugin NetBeans Form Editor is requested in version >= 0.22.0.1.4 but
only 0.21.1.1.4 was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin Form Editor to be installed.
> The plugin Form Editor is requested in version >= 1.61.0.4 but only
1.60.1.4 was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin Java Source Base to be installed.
> The plugin Java Source Base is requested in version >= 2.39.0.4.3.25.8.1
but only 2.37.1.4.3.25.8.1 was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin External Libraries to be installed.
> The plugin External Libraries is requested in version >= 1.57 but only
1.56.1 was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin File System API to be installed.
> The plugin File System API is requested in version >= 9.14 but only
9.13.1 was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin Datasystems API to be installed.
> The plugin Datasystems API is requested in version >= 7.71 but only
7.70.1 was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin Nodes API to be installed.
> The plugin Nodes API is requested in version >= 7.49 but only 7.48.1 was
found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> h3. Some plugins require plugin Lookup API to be installed.
> The plugin Lookup API is requested in version >= 8.37 but only 8.36.1 was
found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> Some plugins require plugin Utilities API to be installed.
> The plugin Utilities API is requested in version >= 9.12 but only 9.11.1
was found.
> The following plugin is affected:
>   Beans Binding Support for Form Editor
> Some plugins not installed to avoid potential installation problems.
>
>

Re: waiting for connection (xdebug)

[Lucio]

I wrote:

> Do you agree? Or am I overlooking something? Should I file a bug
> report?

I'm not sure about how to read the lack of replies in this case, anyway 
here is the bug report with a few more info, just in case anyone wants 
to chime in from now on:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1959

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Re: Netbeans Day

[Geertjan Wielenga]

When would you suggest for this event?

(Sorry, I keep getting '.invalid' in your e-mail address, so not sure if
you're getting responses from me.)

Gj


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 2:18 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Excellent, when would you suggest?
>
> Maybe September?
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 6:01 PM Luff,Chris 
> wrote:
>
>> I have an agreement in principle from my organisation's hierarchy to host
>> a Netbeans day. The organisation is based in Paddington London with hosting
>> facilities. Cerner.com
>>
>> Do we have any ideas on dates; the space is heavily utilised so this will
>> be the difficult part, but I feel sure it can be done. I don’t think we can
>> meet the usual April timeframe so perhaps later in the year.
>>
>> How does registration/invite usually function?
>>
>> Thanks
>> C
>>
>> On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:56, Luff,Chris 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sweet…will work within the parameters and see what is possible!
>> Standby…commercial organisation!
>>
>>
>> On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:49, Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>
>> Awesome!
>>
>> Requirements:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Events
>> 
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 4:47 PM Luff,Chris 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Geertjan and others; Netbeans Day…if I had a venue, what are the
>>> prerequisites?
>>>
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