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From: Will Hartung <willhart...@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:33:34 -0700
Subject: Re: removing the "new project" support for Ant projects


On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:33 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> No one is suggesting removing support for Ant altogether.
>
> The suggestion is to remove the possibility of creating new Ant projects.
>

And to be fair, the problem is not with Ant per se. The problem is simply
that the Ant projects and wizards within the IDE are not being supported.
And that lack of support leads to bad experiences, especially with new
users. And by new users, I mean folks new to Java, new to NB, or just new
to whatever tech they want to try ("Gee, what's it like writing a web
service?").

I have nothing against Ant, I don't like the bad experiences in precisely
the place where a bad experience can be quite disrupting -- first contact
with the IDE.

As the paraphrase goes: "Patches welcome". If someone would like to chime
in, step up, and audit and update the Ant projects, then the door is wide
open.

But having them linger in limbo just isn't satisfactory to me, but I don't
think someone would want me (or anyone) to just make a pull request yanking
them out.

Regards,

Will Hartung

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