Re: Need stable version scheme for TomEE and link to archived releases

2012-10-28 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Links can definitively be added, about scheme we need to discuss it but
well clearly maintain tomee 1 when well start hacking on jee7 (tomee 2 i
guess)
Le 28 oct. 2012 11:11, "Alex The Rocker"  a écrit :

> Romain:
>
> Good to know that older version still exist, but this is only part of my
> points, which again are:
>  - How about a well defined version scheme for TomEE ?
>  - Can links to older versions & archives be added to TomEE download page?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
>
> > Quick side note: all versions are available on nexus, links are not
> (yet?)
> > mentioned but exist.
> > Le 27 oct. 2012 08:45, "Alex The Rocker"  a écrit
> :
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > TomEE is supposed to be "Tomcat Enterprise Edition". One thing that
> > > "Enterprises" appreciate with software prerequisites is the ability to
> > move
> > > from one version to another when they fell confident that 1/ it's
> > > compatible with the web apps they deploy 2/ it's available.
> > >
> > > Currently (as of 27th October) we have in TomEE download page only
> links
> > to
> > > version 1.5.0.
> > >
> > > In theory, there will soon be version 1.5.1, and "enterprises" will
> > > consider the .1 as a bug fix release.
> > > I read that maybe the next available TomEE would be 1.6.0, meaning
> > features
> > > changes.
> > >
> > > Why 1.0.0. isn't anymore accessible on TomEE download page?
> > > Will links to 1.5.0 be removed when 1.5.1 is available on the download
> > > page?
> > > Will links to 1.5.x be removed when 1.6.0 is available on the download
> > > page?
> > > What if an "enterprise" bought a product that is certified on 1.5.x ;
> > x=>0
> > > ?
> > > Will there be no 1.5.2, 1.5.3 once 1.6.0 is available? what if Tomcat 7
> > > security fixes are only avail on TomEE 1.6.x but not on TomEE 1.5.x?
> > >
> > > Let's compare with Apache Tomcat download page: there are links for the
> > > last 3 major releases (Tomcat 7, Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 5).
> > > When you follow the link on a given release, say Tomcat 7, you have
> > access
> > > to latest point release of Tomcat 7 (Tomcat 7.0.32 as of this writing),
> > but
> > > also to "Archives", from where all point releases between 7.0.0 and
> > > 7.0.0.32 can be downloaded.
> > >
> > > All major application servers have clear version scheme and access to
> > > archives.
> > > We all want TomEE to be taken seriously (reference to Romain's link to
> a
> > > french article where TomEE was almost seen as a Toy-me ;), so would you
> > > agree to
> > >   1/ Standardize TomEE version scheme
> > >   2/ Restore access to TomEE 1.0.0 and provide a link to TomEE
> "archived"
> > > versions
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alex.
> > >
> >
>


Re: Need stable version scheme for TomEE and link to archived releases

2012-10-28 Thread Alex The Rocker
Romain:

Good to know that older version still exist, but this is only part of my
points, which again are:
 - How about a well defined version scheme for TomEE ?
 - Can links to older versions & archives be added to TomEE download page?

Thanks,
Alex

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
wrote:

> Quick side note: all versions are available on nexus, links are not (yet?)
> mentioned but exist.
> Le 27 oct. 2012 08:45, "Alex The Rocker"  a écrit :
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > TomEE is supposed to be "Tomcat Enterprise Edition". One thing that
> > "Enterprises" appreciate with software prerequisites is the ability to
> move
> > from one version to another when they fell confident that 1/ it's
> > compatible with the web apps they deploy 2/ it's available.
> >
> > Currently (as of 27th October) we have in TomEE download page only links
> to
> > version 1.5.0.
> >
> > In theory, there will soon be version 1.5.1, and "enterprises" will
> > consider the .1 as a bug fix release.
> > I read that maybe the next available TomEE would be 1.6.0, meaning
> features
> > changes.
> >
> > Why 1.0.0. isn't anymore accessible on TomEE download page?
> > Will links to 1.5.0 be removed when 1.5.1 is available on the download
> > page?
> > Will links to 1.5.x be removed when 1.6.0 is available on the download
> > page?
> > What if an "enterprise" bought a product that is certified on 1.5.x ;
> x=>0
> > ?
> > Will there be no 1.5.2, 1.5.3 once 1.6.0 is available? what if Tomcat 7
> > security fixes are only avail on TomEE 1.6.x but not on TomEE 1.5.x?
> >
> > Let's compare with Apache Tomcat download page: there are links for the
> > last 3 major releases (Tomcat 7, Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 5).
> > When you follow the link on a given release, say Tomcat 7, you have
> access
> > to latest point release of Tomcat 7 (Tomcat 7.0.32 as of this writing),
> but
> > also to "Archives", from where all point releases between 7.0.0 and
> > 7.0.0.32 can be downloaded.
> >
> > All major application servers have clear version scheme and access to
> > archives.
> > We all want TomEE to be taken seriously (reference to Romain's link to a
> > french article where TomEE was almost seen as a Toy-me ;), so would you
> > agree to
> >   1/ Standardize TomEE version scheme
> >   2/ Restore access to TomEE 1.0.0 and provide a link to TomEE "archived"
> > versions
> > ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex.
> >
>


Re: Need stable version scheme for TomEE and link to archived releases

2012-10-27 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Quick side note: all versions are available on nexus, links are not (yet?)
mentioned but exist.
Le 27 oct. 2012 08:45, "Alex The Rocker"  a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> TomEE is supposed to be "Tomcat Enterprise Edition". One thing that
> "Enterprises" appreciate with software prerequisites is the ability to move
> from one version to another when they fell confident that 1/ it's
> compatible with the web apps they deploy 2/ it's available.
>
> Currently (as of 27th October) we have in TomEE download page only links to
> version 1.5.0.
>
> In theory, there will soon be version 1.5.1, and "enterprises" will
> consider the .1 as a bug fix release.
> I read that maybe the next available TomEE would be 1.6.0, meaning features
> changes.
>
> Why 1.0.0. isn't anymore accessible on TomEE download page?
> Will links to 1.5.0 be removed when 1.5.1 is available on the download
> page?
> Will links to 1.5.x be removed when 1.6.0 is available on the download
> page?
> What if an "enterprise" bought a product that is certified on 1.5.x ; x=>0
> ?
> Will there be no 1.5.2, 1.5.3 once 1.6.0 is available? what if Tomcat 7
> security fixes are only avail on TomEE 1.6.x but not on TomEE 1.5.x?
>
> Let's compare with Apache Tomcat download page: there are links for the
> last 3 major releases (Tomcat 7, Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 5).
> When you follow the link on a given release, say Tomcat 7, you have access
> to latest point release of Tomcat 7 (Tomcat 7.0.32 as of this writing), but
> also to "Archives", from where all point releases between 7.0.0 and
> 7.0.0.32 can be downloaded.
>
> All major application servers have clear version scheme and access to
> archives.
> We all want TomEE to be taken seriously (reference to Romain's link to a
> french article where TomEE was almost seen as a Toy-me ;), so would you
> agree to
>   1/ Standardize TomEE version scheme
>   2/ Restore access to TomEE 1.0.0 and provide a link to TomEE "archived"
> versions
> ?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex.
>


Need stable version scheme for TomEE and link to archived releases

2012-10-26 Thread Alex The Rocker
Hello,

TomEE is supposed to be "Tomcat Enterprise Edition". One thing that
"Enterprises" appreciate with software prerequisites is the ability to move
from one version to another when they fell confident that 1/ it's
compatible with the web apps they deploy 2/ it's available.

Currently (as of 27th October) we have in TomEE download page only links to
version 1.5.0.

In theory, there will soon be version 1.5.1, and "enterprises" will
consider the .1 as a bug fix release.
I read that maybe the next available TomEE would be 1.6.0, meaning features
changes.

Why 1.0.0. isn't anymore accessible on TomEE download page?
Will links to 1.5.0 be removed when 1.5.1 is available on the download page?
Will links to 1.5.x be removed when 1.6.0 is available on the download page?
What if an "enterprise" bought a product that is certified on 1.5.x ; x=>0 ?
Will there be no 1.5.2, 1.5.3 once 1.6.0 is available? what if Tomcat 7
security fixes are only avail on TomEE 1.6.x but not on TomEE 1.5.x?

Let's compare with Apache Tomcat download page: there are links for the
last 3 major releases (Tomcat 7, Tomcat 6 and Tomcat 5).
When you follow the link on a given release, say Tomcat 7, you have access
to latest point release of Tomcat 7 (Tomcat 7.0.32 as of this writing), but
also to "Archives", from where all point releases between 7.0.0 and
7.0.0.32 can be downloaded.

All major application servers have clear version scheme and access to
archives.
We all want TomEE to be taken seriously (reference to Romain's link to a
french article where TomEE was almost seen as a Toy-me ;), so would you
agree to
  1/ Standardize TomEE version scheme
  2/ Restore access to TomEE 1.0.0 and provide a link to TomEE "archived"
versions
?

Thanks,
Alex.