RE: AOO-Members dont forget voting
I'm repeating myself, but... The AOO crew continues to serve us well -- not only with a quality product but with well-phrased responses to inquiries and problems. I was part of engineering & software development, publications, etc, at Big Blue for many years, so I have a soft spot in my heart for you; the volunteers who "keep the wheels on" with this first-rate offering. Thanks, Guy & Gals! Maurice Howe [just a user, but a happy one!] -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 4:14 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, kalle hauser wrote: > for the RC2 to be released as AOO 4.0 (or even not) on > > http://www.marshut.com/rrypt/release-openoffice-4-rc2.html > > ;-) > > My question to this: > > it seems, that not one IT-website in the internet knows about a RC of AOO 4. why you dont start a PR-campain for the new AOO 4 and make a public testing of the RC? > > Like SuperKK on the AOO blog says: "You need to work on your PR. Why were there no public beta announcements? The LibreOffice propaganda machine has already convinced many people that OO is dead. Release early, release often." > We've discussed AOO 4.0 many times, on the blog and in social media, and this has been covered in the press. Yes, we don't issue a press release every week or every time we change code indentation, like some other projects seem to do. But we do take care of major announcements. For example, the AOO 4.0 press release already went out. You might not have seen it, but that's the point. Press releases are for the press, so they can write their stories. They want "the scoop". We're doing press interviews for AOO 4.0 as well. Remember, if it is on our website then it is not news anymore. So we should not confuse noise with impact. There is an open source echo-chamber, and saying the same tired FUD within that small circle of authors will not convince or convert a single user to move toward or away from OpenOffice. Or at least it will have very little impact compared to the effort. We need to find a way to reach out, beyond the "usual suspects" and get the news to a new audience. Remember, the growth for AOO is not from those within the open source community. The growth is from those who have never heard of open source. > After finishing work on the major-release AOO4, i hope you bring out bugfix-releases more often than all 6 - 8 month. i my opinion bugfixreleases all 3-4 month would be a good intervall... > > > btw: i switched to LO 3.5/3.6, after the OOo-develpoment was on-ice/ incubating, but a comparisen of LO4.0 and AOO3.4.1 shows 1 important thing: You Apache-Guys need longer to bring an new release and implement new features, but the quality of your product seems to be higher > I think the pace of development is one reason for the better quality. I'd like to release more often as well, but I don't want to compromise on quality. But I think there is room for improvement here. And we are discussing having a public beta for AOO 4.1. Regards, -Rob > e.g LO announces improvments on Load/Save-speed over and over angain, but in the end, AOO 3.4.1 starts faster than LO 3.6. The improvments on the docx/xlsx/pptx-filters in LO are also not as good as yours. > > > keep up the good work! > > regards > > K. Hauser - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6502 - Release Date: 07/18/13 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Navigator
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:31:55 -0400 Rima Schulkind wrote: > I was cc'd this email, and while it doesn't address my query, you sound like > someone who might know something about this awful word processing app. Here > are the questions I sent to users@open office- and received no response: > > 1. How can I change the default font Set a blank document up as you wish, changing the styles, then save as a template. Details at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=1161 > > 2. Can I make saving to the desktop the default instead of to documents? Change the path under /Tools /Options/OpenOffice.org :Paths Yoou may need to restart OpenOffce including the Quickstarter for this to take (I'm not certain) > > 3. How can I alphabetize a list of words, and can I do this by either first > name or second name? /Tools /Sort - best to consult the Help file for more detail. > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:05:35 +1200, Dale Erwin wrote: > > > >> That doesn't work. The only thing that happens when I hit F5 is the > >> document inside the window frame shifts to the right about 1/8 of an inch. > >> Then if I press F5 again, it shifts back to its original position. But > >> no Navigator. > > > > That means most likely that navigator is docked but minimised. Check to > > see if there is a a row of about 6 dots in a vertical row about half way > > down one side, most likely on the left as that's the default. If its not > > there press F5 and see if it appears. If it does then just hover your > > cursor over until a double ended arrow appears. Click and hold and drag > > away from the screen edge. > > > > Cheers > > GL > > > >> > >> Dale Erwin > >> Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 > >> Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU > >> http://leather.casaerwin.org > >> > >> On 7/18/2013 7:49 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: > >>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:50:24 +1200, Dale Erwin wrote: > >>> > This is frustrating. I have a master document with 50 sub documents > under Win 7 / OOo 3.4.1 which I've been working on for nearly 3 years > now. I don't remember at this point just what version of OOo I was > using when I created the documents, but I've been on this version for > quite a while now. Every time I used to open the master document it > used to automatically open the Navigator alongside it (including under > my current system), and it was a little annoying because it was always > on top of what I wanted. Now, I NEED the navigator and it doesn't open. > I have no idea what I might have done to suppress it. > > Can someone please tell me how to open the Navigator? > > >>> > >>> > >>> With a document open, press F5 > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> GL > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > ___ > Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting > http://www.doteasy.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, kalle hauser wrote: > for the RC2 to be released as AOO 4.0 (or even not) on > > http://www.marshut.com/rrypt/release-openoffice-4-rc2.html > > ;-) > > My question to this: > > it seems, that not one IT-website in the internet knows about a RC of AOO 4. > why you dont start a PR-campain for the new AOO 4 and make a public testing > of the RC? > > Like SuperKK on the AOO blog says: "You need to work on your PR. Why were > there no public beta announcements? The LibreOffice propaganda machine has > already convinced many people that OO is dead. Release early, release often." > We've discussed AOO 4.0 many times, on the blog and in social media, and this has been covered in the press. Yes, we don't issue a press release every week or every time we change code indentation, like some other projects seem to do. But we do take care of major announcements. For example, the AOO 4.0 press release already went out. You might not have seen it, but that's the point. Press releases are for the press, so they can write their stories. They want "the scoop". We're doing press interviews for AOO 4.0 as well. Remember, if it is on our website then it is not news anymore. So we should not confuse noise with impact. There is an open source echo-chamber, and saying the same tired FUD within that small circle of authors will not convince or convert a single user to move toward or away from OpenOffice. Or at least it will have very little impact compared to the effort. We need to find a way to reach out, beyond the "usual suspects" and get the news to a new audience. Remember, the growth for AOO is not from those within the open source community. The growth is from those who have never heard of open source. > After finishing work on the major-release AOO4, i hope you bring out > bugfix-releases more often than all 6 - 8 month. i my opinion bugfixreleases > all 3-4 month would be a good intervall... > > > btw: i switched to LO 3.5/3.6, after the OOo-develpoment was on-ice/ > incubating, but a comparisen of LO4.0 and AOO3.4.1 shows 1 important thing: > You Apache-Guys need longer to bring an new release and implement new > features, but the quality of your product seems to be higher > I think the pace of development is one reason for the better quality. I'd like to release more often as well, but I don't want to compromise on quality. But I think there is room for improvement here. And we are discussing having a public beta for AOO 4.1. Regards, -Rob > e.g LO announces improvments on Load/Save-speed over and over angain, but in > the end, AOO 3.4.1 starts faster than LO 3.6. The improvments on the > docx/xlsx/pptx-filters in LO are also not as good as yours. > > > keep up the good work! > > regards > > K. Hauser - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Header Text
This one especially I think: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=32244 Hagar Le 19/07/2013 06:52, Rory O'Farrell a écrit : On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:43:26 -0500 Dale Erwin wrote: If I want to display sometthing Header and change it to new value every time a new chapter begins, does that mean I have to have a different set of page styles for each chapter? There are a number of Header/Footer related tutorials at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=71 which you may find it of use to consult. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Navigator
I was cc'd this email, and while it doesn't address my query, you sound like someone who might know something about this awful word processing app. Here are the questions I sent to users@open office- and received no response: 1. How can I change the default font? 2. Can I make saving to the desktop the default instead of to documents? 3. How can I alphabetize a list of words, and can I do this by either first name or second name? On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:05:35 +1200, Dale Erwin wrote: > >> That doesn't work. The only thing that happens when I hit F5 is the >> document inside the window frame shifts to the right about 1/8 of an inch. >> Then if I press F5 again, it shifts back to its original position. But no >> Navigator. > > That means most likely that navigator is docked but minimised. Check to see > if there is a a row of about 6 dots in a vertical row about half way down one > side, most likely on the left as that's the default. If its not there press > F5 and see if it appears. If it does then just hover your cursor over until a > double ended arrow appears. Click and hold and drag away from the screen edge. > > Cheers > GL > >> >> Dale Erwin >> Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 >> Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU >> http://leather.casaerwin.org >> >> On 7/18/2013 7:49 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: >>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:50:24 +1200, Dale Erwin wrote: >>> This is frustrating. I have a master document with 50 sub documents under Win 7 / OOo 3.4.1 which I've been working on for nearly 3 years now. I don't remember at this point just what version of OOo I was using when I created the documents, but I've been on this version for quite a while now. Every time I used to open the master document it used to automatically open the Navigator alongside it (including under my current system), and it was a little annoying because it was always on top of what I wanted. Now, I NEED the navigator and it doesn't open. I have no idea what I might have done to suppress it. Can someone please tell me how to open the Navigator? >>> >>> >>> With a document open, press F5 >>> >>> Cheers >>> GL >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > ___ Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting http://www.doteasy.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Navigator
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:05:35 +1200, Dale Erwin wrote: That doesn't work. The only thing that happens when I hit F5 is the document inside the window frame shifts to the right about 1/8 of an inch. Then if I press F5 again, it shifts back to its original position. But no Navigator. That means most likely that navigator is docked but minimised. Check to see if there is a a row of about 6 dots in a vertical row about half way down one side, most likely on the left as that's the default. If its not there press F5 and see if it appears. If it does then just hover your cursor over until a double ended arrow appears. Click and hold and drag away from the screen edge. Cheers GL Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 7/18/2013 7:49 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:50:24 +1200, Dale Erwin wrote: This is frustrating. I have a master document with 50 sub documents under Win 7 / OOo 3.4.1 which I've been working on for nearly 3 years now. I don't remember at this point just what version of OOo I was using when I created the documents, but I've been on this version for quite a while now. Every time I used to open the master document it used to automatically open the Navigator alongside it (including under my current system), and it was a little annoying because it was always on top of what I wanted. Now, I NEED the navigator and it doesn't open. I have no idea what I might have done to suppress it. Can someone please tell me how to open the Navigator? With a document open, press F5 Cheers GL - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting
Am 19.07.2013 13:49, schrieb kalle hauser: for the RC2 to be released as AOO 4.0 (or even not) on http://www.marshut.com/rrypt/release-openoffice-4-rc2.html ;-) My question to this: it seems, that not one IT-website in the internet knows about a RC of AOO 4. why you dont start a PR-campain for the new AOO 4 and make a public testing of the RC? +1 RCs should announced on annou...@openoffice.apache.org. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO-Members dont forget voting
for the RC2 to be released as AOO 4.0 (or even not) on http://www.marshut.com/rrypt/release-openoffice-4-rc2.html ;-) My question to this: it seems, that not one IT-website in the internet knows about a RC of AOO 4. why you dont start a PR-campain for the new AOO 4 and make a public testing of the RC? Like SuperKK on the AOO blog says: "You need to work on your PR. Why were there no public beta announcements? The LibreOffice propaganda machine has already convinced many people that OO is dead. Release early, release often." After finishing work on the major-release AOO4, i hope you bring out bugfix-releases more often than all 6 - 8 month. i my opinion bugfixreleases all 3-4 month would be a good intervall... btw: i switched to LO 3.5/3.6, after the OOo-develpoment was on-ice/ incubating, but a comparisen of LO4.0 and AOO3.4.1 shows 1 important thing: You Apache-Guys need longer to bring an new release and implement new features, but the quality of your product seems to be higher e.g LO announces improvments on Load/Save-speed over and over angain, but in the end, AOO 3.4.1 starts faster than LO 3.6. The improvments on the docx/xlsx/pptx-filters in LO are also not as good as yours. keep up the good work! regards K. Hauser