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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
On Sunday 22 September 2013 08:53:10 you wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the > > distro. Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very > > integrated with LO. > > > > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO. > > Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types. > > > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an > > option for Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system. > > I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO > 4.0.1 at this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details > until I can figure out more what the problem could be. > > I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg > specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use > of those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation > needed -- a topic for the "dev" list. > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across > > > this message. > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj > > > > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what > > > you mean > > > > by > > > > > this comment -- > > > > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. " > > > > > > Could you elaborate? > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install? Kay Schenk, I follow the AOO dev list see your posts. Not sure what constitutes integration/support for AOO & LO. I use Trinity desktop, the continuation of KDE 3.5.x branch. The lead dev there has provided some kind of support for LO, mostly due to lack of resources to do more and AOO is not in distros. Are you aware of this code? http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-May/031676.html -- Peace, Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:31:54 +0700 "Urmas" wrote: > "Fernando Cassia": > > Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD > campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics > are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. > > Please, just admit Apache OO is dead, and will never be relevant again > unless some company will grease some minister in some 3rd world government > to build that state ECM system on it. For average customer it is already > obsoleted by LO. > You've never been accused of being intelligent, right? -- Help spread the word! Learn about Jury Nullification! Help take back our country from our corrupt government! www DOT fija DOT org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
"Fernando Cassia": Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Please, just admit Apache OO is dead, and will never be relevant again unless some company will grease some minister in some 3rd world government to build that state ECM system on it. For average customer it is already obsoleted by LO. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Issue with Open office
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado > wrote: > > > > > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the > > distro. > > > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO. > > > > > > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO. > > > > > > > Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types. > > > > Just like we do automatically for Windows, but offer no solution on Linux. > Users need to do it manually. > > > http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/images/Download_2_4_1_html_5bc7f92d.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option > > for > > > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system. > > > > > > > > > I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1 > at > > this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can > > figure out more what the problem could be. > > > > There is also Akonadi which is the underlining resource manager for > KDE-PIM. Not sure to what degree of integration with KMail "services" is > dependable of it. I know in the past Sun people worked with Mozilla to > integrate some of the Calendar/Mail services with OpenOffice under the > Lightning project. > > > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/#Calendar_and_Email_Client_.28Mozilla_Thunderbird_and_Lightning.29 > > Evolution is practically death, but both Kolab/Akonadi are very well alive > under the KDE layer. > > > > > > > I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg > > specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of > > those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed -- > a > > topic for the "dev" list. > > > > Gnome use gconf for their setting rules (API), I don't know the actual > name for KDE but I know there is one. This is a few layers above DBus/uDev, > but more on the Desktop environment level. > > I also think that we need to take efforts to make OpenOffice finally deal > with media (for embedded objects). Sun never wanted to depend on DM > specific media frameworks like gstreamer, and preffered a very obsolete JMF > (Java Media Framework) which quite honestly never really worked as > expected. Freedesktop have some frameworks like Telepathy, and KDE has > phonon to deal with media. > > KDE deals greatly with OpenDocuments (not really AOO but helps) having an > internal rendering libraries for all things OpenDocuments natively. > https://kenai.com/projects/kde-odf-thumbnail > > A lot of useful information here. Oddly, now using AOO 4.0.1, RC3, and > configuring my e-mail manually, all is good. With the previous RC2 version, > I got into some dialog boxes that seemed to want to do some configuration, > but only got partially through that. Odd. And, it didn't work. But, today, > all is well. OK, I will look into this when I have a moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk > > wrote: > > > > > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this > > > > message. > > > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj > > > > > > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you > mean > > > by > > > > this comment -- > > > > > > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. " > > > > > > > > Could you elaborate? > > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > MzK > > > > > > > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > > > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > > > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Alexandro Colorado > > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > > > http://www.openoffice.org > > > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > - > > MzK > > > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > -- - MzK "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado >> wrote: >> >> > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the >> distro. >> > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO. >> > >> > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO. >> > >> >> Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types. >> > > Just like we do automatically for Windows, but offer no solution on > Linux. Users need to do it manually. > > http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/images/Download_2_4_1_html_5bc7f92d.png > > > >> >> >> > >> > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option >> for >> > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system. >> > >> >> >> I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1 at >> this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can >> figure out more what the problem could be. >> > > There is also Akonadi which is the underlining resource manager for > KDE-PIM. Not sure to what degree of integration with KMail "services" is > dependable of it. I know in the past Sun people worked with Mozilla to > integrate some of the Calendar/Mail services with OpenOffice under the > Lightning project. > > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/#Calendar_and_Email_Client_.28Mozilla_Thunderbird_and_Lightning.29 > > Evolution is practically death, but both Kolab/Akonadi are very well alive > under the KDE layer. > Here are two examples of integration from KDE into Mozilla, one for KWallet replacing Mozilla internal master password, and the other is for Plasmoid notifications system. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/kde-wallet-password-integratio/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/plasmanotify/ Looking at the code of plasmoid, it looks like they catch the calls and re-route them to kdialog's notification system. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3122278 A good testcase is to use Calligra and review how integrated is with the rest of the desktop. > > > >> >> I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg >> specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of >> those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed -- a >> topic for the "dev" list. >> > > Gnome use gconf for their setting rules (API), I don't know the actual > name for KDE but I know there is one. This is a few layers above DBus/uDev, > but more on the Desktop environment level. > > I also think that we need to take efforts to make OpenOffice finally deal > with media (for embedded objects). Sun never wanted to depend on DM > specific media frameworks like gstreamer, and preffered a very obsolete JMF > (Java Media Framework) which quite honestly never really worked as > expected. Freedesktop have some frameworks like Telepathy, and KDE has > phonon to deal with media. > > KDE deals greatly with OpenDocuments (not really AOO but helps) having an > internal rendering libraries for all things OpenDocuments natively. > https://kenai.com/projects/kde-odf-thumbnail > > > >> >> >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk >> wrote: >> > >> > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this >> > > message. >> > > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj >> > > >> > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you >> mean >> > by >> > > this comment -- >> > > >> > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. " >> > > >> > > Could you elaborate? >> > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install? >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > >> > >> - >> > > MzK >> > > >> > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged >> > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." >> > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Alexandro Colorado >> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> > http://www.openoffice.org >> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> - >> MzK >> >> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged >> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." >> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain >> > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the > distro. > > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO. > > > > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO. > > > > Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types. > Just like we do automatically for Windows, but offer no solution on Linux. Users need to do it manually. http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/images/Download_2_4_1_html_5bc7f92d.png > > > > > > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option > for > > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system. > > > > > I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1 at > this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can > figure out more what the problem could be. > There is also Akonadi which is the underlining resource manager for KDE-PIM. Not sure to what degree of integration with KMail "services" is dependable of it. I know in the past Sun people worked with Mozilla to integrate some of the Calendar/Mail services with OpenOffice under the Lightning project. http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/#Calendar_and_Email_Client_.28Mozilla_Thunderbird_and_Lightning.29 Evolution is practically death, but both Kolab/Akonadi are very well alive under the KDE layer. > > I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg > specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of > those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed -- a > topic for the "dev" list. > Gnome use gconf for their setting rules (API), I don't know the actual name for KDE but I know there is one. This is a few layers above DBus/uDev, but more on the Desktop environment level. I also think that we need to take efforts to make OpenOffice finally deal with media (for embedded objects). Sun never wanted to depend on DM specific media frameworks like gstreamer, and preffered a very obsolete JMF (Java Media Framework) which quite honestly never really worked as expected. Freedesktop have some frameworks like Telepathy, and KDE has phonon to deal with media. KDE deals greatly with OpenDocuments (not really AOO but helps) having an internal rendering libraries for all things OpenDocuments natively. https://kenai.com/projects/kde-odf-thumbnail > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk > wrote: > > > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this > > > message. > > > > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj > > > > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean > > by > > > this comment -- > > > > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. " > > > > > > Could you elaborate? > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > - > > > MzK > > > > > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alexandro Colorado > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > > http://www.openoffice.org > > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > > > > -- > > - > MzK > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the distro. > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO. > > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO. > Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types. > > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option for > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system. > I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1 at this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can figure out more what the problem could be. I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed -- a topic for the "dev" list. > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this > > message. > > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj > > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean > by > > this comment -- > > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. " > > > > Could you elaborate? > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install? > > > > -- > > > > > - > > MzK > > > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > -- - MzK "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
