Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

2014-08-19 Thread Doug


On 08/19/2014 08:29 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

As the poster was not specific in where the exact problem was.
I assumed that he has read the help file because he said: "in the way 
you explain the aid"

The help file clearly state:

   *Undoing password protection*
   To remove a password, open the document, then save without password.

Hence my assumption was that he needed to remove a password that he 
couldn't remember.


If posters are vague in their problem description you could expect 
that different people have different interpretations.

/snip/

I think this is Catch 22.
1. The document is protected by a password
2. You must open the document to remove the password
3. You don't know the password to open the document.

Maybe hypnosis?

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Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Groenescheij

As the poster was not specific in where the exact problem was.
I assumed that he has read the help file because he said: "in the way 
you explain the aid"

The help file clearly state:

   *Undoing password protection*
   To remove a password, open the document, then save without password.

Hence my assumption was that he needed to remove a password that he 
couldn't remember.


If posters are vague in their problem description you could expect that 
different people have different interpretations.


On 20-8-2014 9:37, Brian Barker wrote:

At 08:56 20/08/2014 +1000, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

If it is that easy to remove a password ...


Er, how easy is "that easy", please?


... it doesn't make sense to set a password in the first place.


It makes complete sense to me to be able to encrypt a document and 
protect this with a password. It also makes sense to be able to choose 
to save the same document later - with either the same or a different 
name - but now with the password protection removed. You can do this 
in OpenOffice - and this is what the questioner is having difficulty 
with.


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Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

2014-08-19 Thread Brian Barker

At 08:56 20/08/2014 +1000, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

If it is that easy to remove a password ...


Er, how easy is "that easy", please?


... it doesn't make sense to set a password in the first place.


It makes complete sense to me to be able to encrypt a document and 
protect this with a password. It also makes sense to be able to 
choose to save the same document later - with either the same or a 
different name - but now with the password protection removed. You 
can do this in OpenOffice - and this is what the questioner is having 
difficulty with.


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Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

2014-08-19 Thread elderdanlewis


 Original message 
From: Martin Groenescheij  
Date:08/19/2014  6:56 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Cc: rmarti...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD 

When you set a password the window give you the following:

Note: After a password has been set, the document will only
open with the password. Should you lose the password, there
will be no way to recover the document. Please also note
that this password is case-sensitive

If it is that easy to remove a password it doesn't make sense to set a 
password in the first place.

 You seem to have forgotten something. When a document has been saved with 
a password,  you must first reopen the document with the password before you 
can change it. If you forget the password,  you can not open it.

Dan

On 19-8-2014 13:49, Ruben Martinelli wrote:
> *I can not remove my password from a document ods openoffice calc, in the
> way you explain the aid.*
>
> *THANKS YOU.*
>
> *RUBEN MARTINELLI*
>



Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Groenescheij

When you set a password the window give you the following:

   Note: After a password has been set, the document will only
   open with the password. Should you lose the password, there
   will be no way to recover the document. Please also note
   that this password is case-sensitive

If it is that easy to remove a password it doesn't make sense to set a 
password in the first place.


.

On 19-8-2014 13:49, Ruben Martinelli wrote:

*I can not remove my password from a document ods openoffice calc, in the
way you explain the aid.*

*THANKS YOU.*

*RUBEN MARTINELLI*





Re: Macro Problems

2014-08-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 08/19/2014 04:19 PM, Don Daugherty wrote:
For several years I have been using OOo Macros, running under Basic. 
Then a  few months ago they stopped working, and I am unable to 
track-down the source of the difficulty.  When I startup a particular 
Financial spreadsheet, which should trigger a "Startup" macro, 
OpenOffice Basic starts and balks at the first command, which is 
GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.LoadLibrary("Calc"), with "Basic runtime 
error, An exception occurred,

type com.sun.star.container.NoSuchElementException, Message:."

I don't know where it's looking.  What shows up in the file structure 
is under
C:\Users\His\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org\3\user\basic\Calc, which 
contains a group of .xba basic files.

Ideas, anyone?



That message seems to be saying that a Basic library loaded at the 
directory you list does not exist.


Which version of OpenOffice are you running? Did you, perhaps, install a 
new version of OpenOffice?


Do you have the directory as listed above? If yes, what files are in 
that directory?



I do not have a Windows instance to check against; sorry. I will do some 
guessing.


How did you find this path? Do you find this path somewhere in options, 
or, did you look on your hard drive?


This may be only marginally useful to you, but, I am currently on a 
Linux computer and I have LibreOffice installed, but, I think that the 
information will still be useful to you.


I have a file located here:

/home/andy/.config/libreoffice/4/user/basic/script.xlc

I expect that from what you stated, you should have a file here:

C:\Users\His\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org\3\user\basic\script.xlc

If you look at script.xlc, I expect that you will find an entry that 
looks something like this:


 xlink:href="$(USER)/basic/Calc/script.xlb/" xlink:type="simple" 
library:link="false"/>


This is saying that you have a library named Calc and that it is 
described in the file script.xlb. (remember that I asked about the files 
in that directory above).


Just trying to get a feel for what you have on your machine.

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Macro Problems

2014-08-19 Thread Don Daugherty
For several years I have been using OOo Macros, running under Basic.  
Then a  few months ago they stopped working, and I am unable to 
track-down the source of the difficulty.  When I startup a particular 
Financial spreadsheet, which should trigger a "Startup" macro, 
OpenOffice Basic starts and balks at the first command, which is 
GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.LoadLibrary("Calc"), with  "Basic runtime 
error, An exception occurred,

type com.sun.star.container.NoSuchElementException, Message:."

I don't know where it's looking.  What shows up in the file structure is 
under
C:\Users\His\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org\3\user\basic\Calc, which 
contains a group of .xba basic files.

Ideas, anyone?




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Re: letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:10 19/08/2014 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote:

On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:06, Tom Backer Johnsen wrote:
Use a table with one row and two columns, no borders, width between 
the left and right margins. Format the two cells for left and right 
text, and there you are.


In the body of the text, you need to get rid of about 0.4" of 
leading space in the first column.  Haven't found the trick for this yet.


That's 0.04" (or 0.1 cm), I think.

To remove this, go to Table | Table Properties... | Borders | Spacing 
to contents (or right-click | Table... | Borders | Spacing to 
contents) and set the Left value to zero. (If you leave Synchronise 
ticked, all the spacings will become zero, which is possibly what you want.)


I trust this helps.

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Re: letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Don Daugherty

On 8/19/2014 8:51 AM, Christine wrote:

I am trying to find how to set a right hand margin - always had mine set now 
cannot remember how to do thishave asked many but do not understand why I 
need one as there is a left margin box on screen but this does not work when 
writing something on left and then tab across to the right, it does not happen 
with this setting.
Hopefully you can understand this
Thanks
Christine
Click Format >Page >click Page Tab and you can set each of t he 
margins.  Take note of the name of the Page Style at the top of the 
window so you can select that style by name in the future.



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Re: Sneak in Scam

2014-08-19 Thread James Plante
Because many data service providers interface *only* through Internet Explorer. 
That can be handled. But the VB code the services use won't run on Mac or 
Linux. 

I'm a real estate appraiser and our local Multiple Listing Service uses a 
database/web application that runs only on IE. I've asked several times for 
just plain ascii access: Here's a map number, send me all the properties. He 
cannot do that, and his board won't let him change the software that they paid 
thousands for, and keep paying a high subscription fee for. I finally just 
cancelled my subscription and do things the old-fashioned way.

But mostly, I think using Windows is just a bad habit that's harder to quit 
than smoking.

Jim Plante

On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Doug  wrote:

>  I wonder why more people don't just come to Linux?


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Re: letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:10:44 -0400
Julian Thomas  wrote:

> 
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:06, Tom Backer Johnsen  wrote:
> 
> > Use a table with one row and two columns, no borders, width between the 
> > left and right margins. Format the two cells for left and right text, and 
> > there you are.
> 
> thanks.  for a header, you then need to reduce the header size and or spacing.
> 
> In the body of the text, you need to get rid of about 0.4" of leading space 
> in the first column.  Haven't found the trick for this yet.

One adjusts interline/inter-paragrapgh space in the Paragraph style definition, 
Indents and Spacing tab, by changing settings Above Paragraph, Below Paragraph, 
and Leading.  

Check out the help file for Indents and Spacing.

> 
> It looks like you can also do this for a line or group of lines using columns 
> and applying the column properties to the selected text rather than the page; 
> that avoids the above mentioned problem of the leading space.
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Re: letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Julian Thomas

On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:06, Tom Backer Johnsen  wrote:

> Use a table with one row and two columns, no borders, width between the left 
> and right margins. Format the two cells for left and right text, and there 
> you are.

thanks.  for a header, you then need to reduce the header size and or spacing.

In the body of the text, you need to get rid of about 0.4" of leading space in 
the first column.  Haven't found the trick for this yet.

It looks like you can also do this for a line or group of lines using columns 
and applying the column properties to the selected text rather than the page; 
that avoids the above mentioned problem of the leading space.

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Re: letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:29:59 -0400
Julian Thomas  wrote:

> 
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:51, Christine  wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to find how to set a right hand margin - always had mine set 
> > now cannot remember how to do thishave asked many but do not understand 
> > why I need one as there is a left margin box on screen but this does not 
> > work when writing something on left and then tab across to the right, it 
> > does not happen with this setting.
> 
> 
> I think that what the OP wants to do is to have on the same line text aligned 
> to the left margin and then be able to have additional text aligned to the 
> right margin.
> 
> I would also be interested in how to do this; particularly for setting up 
> headers/footers.
> 

In Header/Footer, enter your (left) text, then hit tab (sometimes two tabs, 
depending on length of left text) then type right text. 

On ordinary text right click on the ruler bar, insert right tab, then pull this 
to the right margin point. Enter left text, hit tab, then right text.

The two tabs may be necessary in header/footer because there is by default also 
set a centre tab.

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Re: letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
Use a table with one row and two columns, no borders, width between the left 
and right margins. Format the two cells for left and right text, and there you 
are.

Tom

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On 19. Aug 2014, at 16:29 , Julian Thomas  wrote:

> 
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:51, Christine  wrote:
> 
>> I am trying to find how to set a right hand margin - always had mine set now 
>> cannot remember how to do thishave asked many but do not understand why 
>> I need one as there is a left margin box on screen but this does not work 
>> when writing something on left and then tab across to the right, it does not 
>> happen with this setting.
> 
> 
> I think that what the OP wants to do is to have on the same line text aligned 
> to the left margin and then be able to have additional text aligned to the 
> right margin.
> 
> I would also be interested in how to do this; particularly for setting up 
> headers/footers.
> 
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Re: Sneak in Scam

2014-08-19 Thread Doug


On 08/19/2014 05:13 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
/snip/


Some non-SourceForge sites which come top of Google searches use a 
DownloadManager (or similar name) of about 34MB to download OpenOffice. Such 
sites, in my limited experience of investigating complaints on the en-Forum, 
always include unwanted add-ons, usually an intrusive and persistent toolbar 
and who knows what other nasties.  Unfortunately one cannot unquestioningly 
accept the URLs reported by inexperienced computer users - they often report 
that they used their desired URL, not the actual URL used.



/snip/

That damned Download Manager crap is one of the reasons I avoid using 
anything Windows. When I had to reinstall a Windows system not too long 
ago, I went to
get Firefox, and sure enough, I got the Conduit virus, which is one 
bitch to get rid of! I wonder why more people don't just come to Linux?


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Re: letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Julian Thomas

On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:51, Christine  wrote:

> I am trying to find how to set a right hand margin - always had mine set now 
> cannot remember how to do thishave asked many but do not understand why I 
> need one as there is a left margin box on screen but this does not work when 
> writing something on left and then tab across to the right, it does not 
> happen with this setting.


I think that what the OP wants to do is to have on the same line text aligned 
to the left margin and then be able to have additional text aligned to the 
right margin.

I would also be interested in how to do this; particularly for setting up 
headers/footers.

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letter writing

2014-08-19 Thread Christine
I am trying to find how to set a right hand margin - always had mine set now 
cannot remember how to do thishave asked many but do not understand why I 
need one as there is a left margin box on screen but this does not work when 
writing something on left and then tab across to the right, it does not happen 
with this setting.
Hopefully you can understand this
Thanks
Christine

Re: OpenOffice is unreliable

2014-08-19 Thread TN Patriot
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:55:39 -0700
Bob Holtzman  wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:09:10PM -0700, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com
> wrote:
> > For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work.  I say
> > the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!
> > It wasn't that I was lax in saving my work as I go (you have to save every
> > few seconds with OpenOrifice to keep from loosing your work), but when it
> > crashed this time, the recovery program erased the previously saved work
> > and replaced it with a blank document.  I'm tired of not knowing what
> > ridiculous function is going to crash the program next and whether or not
> > my project will still be there.
> > 
> > Good bye OpenOffice!
> 
> Did it ever occur to you that thousands (tens of thousands?) of people
> happily use the program with few if any problems.
> 
> Could it be that the problem isn't with the program?
> 

Exactly. 50% of the time it's PEBKAC.


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Re: Sneak in Scam

2014-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:45:15 +0200
Roberto Galoppini  wrote:

> Morning all,
> 
>  Thanks Andrea for looping me in, in line comments.
> 
> 
> 2014-08-19 8:42 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti :
> 
> > Well, if this is the case then SourceForge committed to removing unwanted
> > ads. They have even setup a dedicated channel for reporting this kind of
> > situations. I'm including Roberto in the conversation (Roberto, see below
> > for context) since he already took action in a few other cases discussed on
> > the dev list.
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> >
> > On 19/08/2014 Brian Barker wrote:
> >
> >> At 08:14 19/08/2014 +0800, Carl Wilson wrote:
> >>
> >>> When you download open office it comes with an attached piece of
> >>> software called Driver Manager which is spyware, they do not claim to
> >>> be affiliated with Apache but they seem to have succeed in attaching
> >>> Driver Manager to your download.
> >>>
> >>
> >> When people make suggestions such as this, they are normally dismissed
> >> with comments insisting that they simply must have downloaded OpenOffice
> >> from some unofficial source and thus obtained a contaminated product.
> >> (That hasn't happened this time so far, though.) May I make an
> >> alternative suggestion?
> >>
> >> When prospective users visit the official site and click on the download
> >> link, they are redirected to sourceforge.net. They need to wait a few
> >> second until the download begins, and even then they probably need to
> >> recognise their browser's warning bar requesting confirmation. They may
> >> not even know what to do with this at first. Meanwhile, they are
> >> presented with a Sourceforge page which generally advertises other
> >> possible free downloads. These advertisements usually contain a large
> >> green "Download" button.
> >>
> >> Surely it is quite likely that users will be distracted by a big green
> >> Download button and not, initially, notice some beige banner from their
> >> browser? They will click the big green button, understandably thinking
> >> that this will download the product they have come for: after all, this
> >> is still the official OpenOffice download site, isn't it? When they
> >> install the extra software along with OpenOffice, they will blame
> >> OpenOffice or - as here - remark that the rogue item has somehow
> >> infected the OpenOffice download.
> >>
> >> Note that DriverManager is indeed a program distributed by Sourceforge:
> >> see http://sourceforge.net/projects/drivermanager/ . There is
> >> suspiciously little information about it at the Sourceforge site.
> >>
> >
> 
> I'm not familiar with that project, but it has 0 files <
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/drivermanager/files/?source=navbar> and it
> has been downloaded 0 times <
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/drivermanager/files/stats/timeline?dates=2014-08-01+to+2014-08-19>,
> I guess that's not the program you're talking about.
> 
> Having said that we are committed to remove all malicious ads that do not
> clearly state what are they about. All I need to remove those it's a
> screenshot of the download page with the misleading ads and the link to
> which such ads points to. Most of the times we are able to get rid of that
> in few hours, only over the week-end it could take longer.
> 
> >From Italy as of now I'm seeing an ads about "LogMeIn", an Anti-Virus trial
> or an invitation to monetize your downloads. None of them seems ambiguous
> or misleading and I'm not able to get a "green button" anyhow. If you can
> would you please send an email to me or to blockt...@sourceforge.net?
> 
> Thanks in advance and thanks for heads up.
> 
> Roberto

Some non-SourceForge sites which come top of Google searches use a 
DownloadManager (or similar name) of about 34MB to download OpenOffice. Such 
sites, in my limited experience of investigating complaints on the en-Forum, 
always include unwanted add-ons, usually an intrusive and persistent toolbar 
and who knows what other nasties.  Unfortunately one cannot unquestioningly 
accept the URLs reported by inexperienced computer users - they often report 
that they used their desired URL, not the actual URL used. 

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >> Should there be some explanation and warning on the OpenOffice web site
> >> immediately before the transfer to Sourceforge ("Don't touch the
> >> button!"?) to help potential users avoid this trap? Should those
> >> responding to complaints be aware of this likely cause of the problem
> >> and not so quick to dismiss the user as having used ill-advised
> >> alternative download sources?
> >>
> >> Is this what happened to the current user?
> >>
> >> Brian Barker
> >>
> >>


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Re: Sneak in Scam

2014-08-19 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Morning all,

 Thanks Andrea for looping me in, in line comments.


2014-08-19 8:42 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti :

> Well, if this is the case then SourceForge committed to removing unwanted
> ads. They have even setup a dedicated channel for reporting this kind of
> situations. I'm including Roberto in the conversation (Roberto, see below
> for context) since he already took action in a few other cases discussed on
> the dev list.
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
> On 19/08/2014 Brian Barker wrote:
>
>> At 08:14 19/08/2014 +0800, Carl Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> When you download open office it comes with an attached piece of
>>> software called Driver Manager which is spyware, they do not claim to
>>> be affiliated with Apache but they seem to have succeed in attaching
>>> Driver Manager to your download.
>>>
>>
>> When people make suggestions such as this, they are normally dismissed
>> with comments insisting that they simply must have downloaded OpenOffice
>> from some unofficial source and thus obtained a contaminated product.
>> (That hasn't happened this time so far, though.) May I make an
>> alternative suggestion?
>>
>> When prospective users visit the official site and click on the download
>> link, they are redirected to sourceforge.net. They need to wait a few
>> second until the download begins, and even then they probably need to
>> recognise their browser's warning bar requesting confirmation. They may
>> not even know what to do with this at first. Meanwhile, they are
>> presented with a Sourceforge page which generally advertises other
>> possible free downloads. These advertisements usually contain a large
>> green "Download" button.
>>
>> Surely it is quite likely that users will be distracted by a big green
>> Download button and not, initially, notice some beige banner from their
>> browser? They will click the big green button, understandably thinking
>> that this will download the product they have come for: after all, this
>> is still the official OpenOffice download site, isn't it? When they
>> install the extra software along with OpenOffice, they will blame
>> OpenOffice or - as here - remark that the rogue item has somehow
>> infected the OpenOffice download.
>>
>> Note that DriverManager is indeed a program distributed by Sourceforge:
>> see http://sourceforge.net/projects/drivermanager/ . There is
>> suspiciously little information about it at the Sourceforge site.
>>
>

I'm not familiar with that project, but it has 0 files <
https://sourceforge.net/projects/drivermanager/files/?source=navbar> and it
has been downloaded 0 times <
https://sourceforge.net/projects/drivermanager/files/stats/timeline?dates=2014-08-01+to+2014-08-19>,
I guess that's not the program you're talking about.

Having said that we are committed to remove all malicious ads that do not
clearly state what are they about. All I need to remove those it's a
screenshot of the download page with the misleading ads and the link to
which such ads points to. Most of the times we are able to get rid of that
in few hours, only over the week-end it could take longer.

>From Italy as of now I'm seeing an ads about "LogMeIn", an Anti-Virus trial
or an invitation to monetize your downloads. None of them seems ambiguous
or misleading and I'm not able to get a "green button" anyhow. If you can
would you please send an email to me or to blockt...@sourceforge.net?

Thanks in advance and thanks for heads up.

Roberto





>
>> Should there be some explanation and warning on the OpenOffice web site
>> immediately before the transfer to Sourceforge ("Don't touch the
>> button!"?) to help potential users avoid this trap? Should those
>> responding to complaints be aware of this likely cause of the problem
>> and not so quick to dismiss the user as having used ill-advised
>> alternative download sources?
>>
>> Is this what happened to the current user?
>>
>> Brian Barker
>>
>>


I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

2014-08-19 Thread Ruben Martinelli
*I can not remove my password from a document ods openoffice calc, in the
way you explain the aid.*

*THANKS YOU.*

*RUBEN MARTINELLI*