Re: New Open Office Apache program

[chuck ef]

I have not tried to instal 4.1.3 yet but apparently Apple did make changes to 
Gatekeeper due to vulnerabilities found last year - I am echoing what I just 
Googled. You might do the same.

I did find this among many other things: 
https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/gatekeeper-macos-sierra/

I hope to try it later today.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:03 AM, Jim Driscoll 
mailto:jimdriscol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Sir,

I have a new Apple Mac Pro computer. I previously had to get special permission 
from Apple to open your old Open Office program. I made a permanent change to 
my Apple computer to access other down loaded programs.

Now Apple in their updates has changed my computer back to no new programs 
unless approved by Apple.

I downloaded your new Open Office Apache updated program and you made it seem 
so simple, like Apple would give me no problems. Apple again shut your program 
down. Now I have no access to my documents.

I need help. This time Apple will not help.

Any recommendations on computers because I am selling all my Apple iPhones, my 
2 MacPros and various other Apple devices. Apple dumped 236 of my CD downloaded 
songs in a transfer from iPhone 5 to iPhone 6s. They did this transfer at the 
store with no backup. So it was Apples software that dumped the songs. Apple 
can now be described as Sub Rosa Crooks.

Jim Driscoll
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Hello

[Alexandru Naiboiu]

  I am using Open Office and I must admit that for a regular user is as
good as Microsoft Office. I want to wish you good luck in making the
software better and better every day.

  At this point I want to bring to your attention this plugin
https://www.arielch.org/aoo/aoo-pdf-import/ . I downloaded it and when I
tried to install 360 security said that it has a trojan. Please check it
and see if it is really a trojan.


Thank you.

Re: cannot download office 4...

[Jim McLaughlin]

Yes Brian I noticed.  No it was not Sourceforge.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 23:09 14/10/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> ... I went to the openoffice.org web site and downloaded 4.1.3 directly,
>> without using the "updates" drop down within OO 4.1.3. Note that I used the
>> openoffice.org web site and did not use Sourceforge.
>>
>
> That's clever: how did you do that? Yes, you start at the OpenOffice site,
> but (did you not notice?) you are transferred to sourceforge.net for the
> actual download.
>
> Brian Barker
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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[chuck ef]

Well, I downloaded 4.1.3 this morning, and aside from the usual Gatekeeper 
issue, it opens and I am in business with my (much used) budget spreadsheet 
again.


So there is no real new issue with Gatekeeper in macOS unless you want the 
option of allowing it to open anything from anywhere all the time (not 
recommended). Then you will need to do the terminal thing described in the link 
below.


My word, 4.1.3 opens quickly now. 4.1.2 was such a slug for some reason.



From: chuck ef 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:06 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: New Open Office Apache program

I have not tried to instal 4.1.3 yet but apparently Apple did make changes to 
Gatekeeper due to vulnerabilities found last year - I am echoing what I just 
Googled. You might do the same.

I did find this among many other things: 
https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/gatekeeper-macos-sierra/
[https://cdn1.tekrevue.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/gatekeeper-sierra-unidentified-developer.jpg]

How to Disable Gatekeeper in macOS Sierra - 
TekRevue
www.tekrevue.com
Gatekeeper, first introduced in OS X Mountain Lion, is a Mac security feature 
which prevents the user from launching potentially harmful applications. In 
macOS Sierra ...




I hope to try it later today.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:03 AM, Jim Driscoll 
mailto:jimdriscol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Sir,

I have a new Apple Mac Pro computer. I previously had to get special permission 
from Apple to open your old Open Office program. I made a permanent change to 
my Apple computer to access other down loaded programs.

Now Apple in their updates has changed my computer back to no new programs 
unless approved by Apple.

I downloaded your new Open Office Apache updated program and you made it seem 
so simple, like Apple would give me no problems. Apple again shut your program 
down. Now I have no access to my documents.

I need help. This time Apple will not help.

Any recommendations on computers because I am selling all my Apple iPhones, my 
2 MacPros and various other Apple devices. Apple dumped 236 of my CD downloaded 
songs in a transfer from iPhone 5 to iPhone 6s. They did this transfer at the 
store with no backup. So it was Apples software that dumped the songs. Apple 
can now be described as Sub Rosa Crooks.

Jim Driscoll
jimdriscol...@gmail.com
971-678-1905


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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[James Plante]

The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from running 
software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about, hence they’re 
judged to be untrustworthy. 

So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security & 
Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the window 
“Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App Store” and “App Store 
and identified developers.” 

Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that Gatekeeper 
blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled “Open Anyway.”

But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and click the 
little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password. You can now make 
changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway” button. AOO will launch. 

You can sell all your Mac stuff if you want, but you’ll be shooting yourself in 
the foot if you do. Most problems have solutions. Many solutions require a 
limited amount of work and/or study. If you go with Windows stuff, you’ll have 
a lot of problems, but there are lots of people who’ll give you solutions. You 
will come to know them well. If you go with Linux, you’ll have to do a lot more 
studying, and learn some new cuss words. But it works, and it’s not Apple.

Good luck to you.  BTW, what are you asking for the new Mac Pro?

Jim

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Jim Driscoll  wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I have a new Apple Mac Pro computer. I previously had to get special 
> permission from Apple to open your old Open Office program. I made a 
> permanent change to my Apple computer to access other down loaded programs.
> 
> Now Apple in their updates has changed my computer back to no new programs 
> unless approved by Apple. 
> 
> I downloaded your new Open Office Apache updated program and you made it seem 
> so simple, like Apple would give me no problems. Apple again shut your 
> program down. Now I have no access to my documents. 
> 
> I need help. This time Apple will not help. 
> 
> Any recommendations on computers because I am selling all my Apple iPhones, 
> my 2 MacPros and various other Apple devices. Apple dumped 236 of my CD 
> downloaded songs in a transfer from iPhone 5 to iPhone 6s. They did this 
> transfer at the store with no backup. So it was Apples software that dumped 
> the songs. Apple can now be described as Sub Rosa Crooks.
> 
> Jim Driscoll
> jimdriscol...@gmail.com
> 971-678-1905
> 
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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[James Plante]

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:27 AM, chuck ef  wrote:
> 
> My word, 4.1.3 opens quickly now. 4.1.2 was such a slug for some reason.

You’re right! I downloaded yesterday, and just now started 4.1.3 to check Jim 
Driscoll’s problem. After quitting, that program reloads in a flash on this 
iMac. 

Thanks for the tip,

Jim

Re: cannot download [open?]office 4...

[Brian Barker]

At 08:25 15/10/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

Yes Brian I noticed. No it was not Sourceforge.


Strange, then, that you didn't notice what site it was!

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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Julian Thomas]

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:27, chuck ef  wrote:
> 
> So there is no real new issue with Gatekeeper in macOS unless you want the 
> option of allowing it to open anything from anywhere all the time (not 
> recommended).

I'm not running Sierra yet, but does the procedure for temporarily overriding 
gateway need to be used every time the app is opened, or just the first time?

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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2016-10-15, 1:00 PM Julian Thomas wrote:

On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:27, chuck ef  wrote:

So there is no real new issue with Gatekeeper in macOS unless you want the 
option of allowing it to open anything from anywhere all the time (not 
recommended).

I'm not running Sierra yet, but does the procedure for temporarily overriding 
gateway need to be used every time the app is opened, or just the first time?


Just the first time.


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what is the jre environment looking for?

[Gary Aitken]

Hi all,

First, thanks for all the helpful advice I've gotten on this list over the
years.

After re-installing my os (freebsd 10.3), aoo (4.1.2), mysql (5.6),
and java (openjdk7, 8) when I attempt to open a database I get the
message 
  "No Java installation found..."
ok...

The
  Tools/Options/OpenOffice/Java
dialog shows no installed jre.
I presume this is because they are installed in /usr/local/openjdkx
which is not the standard linux place.

However, when I go to add a JRE, it complains about the folder I selected
not containing a java runtime environment.

Which folder should I be pointing at?
I've tried
  /usr/local/openjdk7
  /usr/local/openjdk7/jre
  /usr/local/openjdk7/lib
  /usr/local/openjdk7/bin
  /usr/local/openjdk7-jre
  /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/bin
  /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/lib

What, specifically, is it looking for to detect a jre?
I've tried installing only the jre port, /usr/local/openjdk7-jre,
but pointing at it doesn't help either.

Thanks,

Gary

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Re: what is the jre environment looking for?

[Gary Aitken]

On 10/15/16 13:15, Gary Aitken wrote:

> After re-installing my os (freebsd 10.3), aoo (4.1.2), mysql (5.6),
> and java (openjdk7, 8) when I attempt to open a database I get the
> message 
>   "No Java installation found..."
> ok...
> 
> The
>   Tools/Options/OpenOffice/Java
> dialog shows no installed jre.
> I presume this is because they are installed in /usr/local/openjdkx
> which is not the standard linux place.
> 
> However, when I go to add a JRE, it complains about the folder I selected
> not containing a java runtime environment.
> 
> Which folder should I be pointing at?
> I've tried
>   /usr/local/openjdk7
>   /usr/local/openjdk7/jre
>   /usr/local/openjdk7/lib
>   /usr/local/openjdk7/bin
>   /usr/local/openjdk7-jre
>   /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/bin
>   /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/lib
> 
> What, specifically, is it looking for to detect a jre?
> I've tried installing only the jre port, /usr/local/openjdk7-jre,
> but pointing at it doesn't help either.

It seemed to work after installing openjdk8-jre

But the question remains, what is it looking for to identify a jre?
Why doesn't it identify openjdk7-jre as valid?

Thanks,

Gary

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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Andrea Pescetti]

James Plante wrote:

The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from running 
software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about, hence they’re 
judged to be untrustworthy.
So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security & 
Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the window “Allow 
apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App Store” and “App Store and 
identified developers.”
Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that Gatekeeper 
blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled “Open Anyway.”
But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and click the 
little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password. You can now make 
changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway” button. AOO will launch.


Is this better or more current than what we have now in the OpenOffice 
4.1.3 Release Notes? Our instructions have been the same for a few 
years, and if the new Mac OS X Sierra adopted another approach they 
might need some updates.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Andrea Pescetti]

Andrea Pescetti wrote:

James Plante wrote:

The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from
running software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about,
hence they’re judged to be untrustworthy.
So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security
& Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the
window “Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App
Store” and “App Store and identified developers.”
Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that
Gatekeeper blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled
“Open Anyway.”
But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and
click the little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password.
You can now make changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway”
button. AOO will launch.


Is this better or more current than what we have now in the OpenOffice
4.1.3 Release Notes? Our instructions have been the same for a few
years, and if the new Mac OS X Sierra adopted another approach they
might need some updates.


To be clear, I refer to the first bullet point here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.3ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Hello

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 15/10/2016 Alexandru Naiboiu wrote:

I want to bring to your attention this plugin
https://www.arielch.org/aoo/aoo-pdf-import/ . I downloaded it and when I
tried to install 360 security said that it has a trojan. Please check it
and see if it is really a trojan.


That extension, for restrictions due to licensing of needed libraries, 
is not released by the OpenOffice project, but by Ariel as an individual 
(even though Ariel is a prominent OpenOffice developer and the Release 
Manager for the next OpenOffice release). I'm putting Ariel in CC just 
in case.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[James Plante]

Andrea,
The release note refers to an article in the Apple Knowledge Base that was 
written for systems up to and including El Capitain (MacOS 10.11). In Sierra 
(MacOS 10.12) the procedure is as I described and as chuck ef expanded on, 
i.e., how to kill Gatekeeper permanently (not recommended). 

What I posted is current, and was taken point-by-point as I installed AOO on my 
iMac and Sierra. 

You may copy and edit my post and use it to amend the release notes if you like.

Regards,
Jim

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> James Plante wrote:
>>> The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from
>>> running software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about,
>>> hence they’re judged to be untrustworthy.
>>> So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security
>>> & Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the
>>> window “Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App
>>> Store” and “App Store and identified developers.”
>>> Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that
>>> Gatekeeper blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled
>>> “Open Anyway.”
>>> But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and
>>> click the little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password.
>>> You can now make changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway”
>>> button. AOO will launch.
>> 
>> Is this better or more current than what we have now in the OpenOffice
>> 4.1.3 Release Notes? Our instructions have been the same for a few
>> years, and if the new Mac OS X Sierra adopted another approach they
>> might need some updates.
> 
> To be clear, I refer to the first bullet point here:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.3ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues
>  
> 
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Ian King]

Is OpenOffice compatible with Mac OS Sierra? I had read that Sierra no longer 
includes JAVA and that means OpenOffice will not operate properly. Am I 
mistaken?

On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

James Plante wrote:
> The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from running 
> software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about, hence they’re 
> judged to be untrustworthy.
> So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security & 
> Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the window 
> “Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App Store” and “App 
> Store and identified developers.”
> Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that Gatekeeper 
> blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled “Open Anyway.”
> But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and click 
> the little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password. You can now 
> make changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway” button. AOO will launch.

Is this better or more current than what we have now in the OpenOffice 4.1.3 
Release Notes? Our instructions have been the same for a few years, and if the 
new Mac OS X Sierra adopted another approach they might need some updates.

Regards,
 Andrea.

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Open office won't open properly

[Margaret Keasberry]

Hello,  I have tried everything there is a box that pops up that says the 
program wasn’t shutdown properly and would I lie to re open windows  I have 
tried to re open  to no avail or asked not to re -open but the box won’t go
away . I can see the options for the pages behind the box but it won’t let me 
type into  or do anything  Please help  I have tried everything  It also won’t 
open any previously written documents 

Thank you I have tried all the forums but nothing is even dressed to this 

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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[jimdriscoll51]

James,I appreciate your timely and factual response. My displaced anger is 
somewhat under control, you helped in this area. You made me see the light of 
reality.  I will keep the MacPro.Purchased a Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, just 
before their new fire bombs came out. Lucky! I thoroughly enjoy using this well 
engineered product. My private/Cd songs to not get dumped. Thanks againJim 
Driscoll


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
 Original message From: James Plante  Date: 
10/15/16  9:29 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: New 
Open Office Apache program 
The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from running 
software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about, hence they’re 
judged to be untrustworthy. 

So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security & 
Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the window 
“Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App Store” and “App Store 
and identified developers.” 

Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that Gatekeeper 
blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled “Open Anyway.”

But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and click the 
little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password. You can now make 
changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway” button. AOO will launch. 

You can sell all your Mac stuff if you want, but you’ll be shooting yourself in 
the foot if you do. Most problems have solutions. Many solutions require a 
limited amount of work and/or study. If you go with Windows stuff, you’ll have 
a lot of problems, but there are lots of people who’ll give you solutions. You 
will come to know them well. If you go with Linux, you’ll have to do a lot more 
studying, and learn some new cuss words. But it works, and it’s not Apple.

Good luck to you.  BTW, what are you asking for the new Mac Pro?

Jim

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Jim Driscoll  wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I have a new Apple Mac Pro computer. I previously had to get special 
> permission from Apple to open your old Open Office program. I made a 
> permanent change to my Apple computer to access other down loaded programs.
> 
> Now Apple in their updates has changed my computer back to no new programs 
> unless approved by Apple. 
> 
> I downloaded your new Open Office Apache updated program and you made it seem 
> so simple, like Apple would give me no problems. Apple again shut your 
> program down. Now I have no access to my documents. 
> 
> I need help. This time Apple will not help. 
> 
> Any recommendations on computers because I am selling all my Apple iPhones, 
> my 2 MacPros and various other Apple devices. Apple dumped 236 of my CD 
> downloaded songs in a transfer from iPhone 5 to iPhone 6s. They did this 
> transfer at the store with no backup. So it was Apples software that dumped 
> the songs. Apple can now be described as Sub Rosa Crooks.
> 
> Jim Driscoll
> jimdriscol...@gmail.com
> 971-678-1905
> 
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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2016-10-15, 2:22 PM Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Andrea Pescetti wrote:

James Plante wrote:

The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from
running software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about,
hence they’re judged to be untrustworthy.
So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security
& Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the
window “Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App
Store” and “App Store and identified developers.”
Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that
Gatekeeper blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled
“Open Anyway.”
But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and
click the little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password.
You can now make changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway”
button. AOO will launch.


Is this better or more current than what we have now in the OpenOffice
4.1.3 Release Notes? Our instructions have been the same for a few
years, and if the new Mac OS X Sierra adopted another approach they
might need some updates.


To be clear, I refer to the first bullet point here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.3ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues 



Regards,
  Andrea. 


The Apple support article linked to hasn't been updated for Sierra. The option "Anywhere – 
Allow applications to run regardless of their source on the Internet (default in OS X Lion 
v10.7.5); Gatekeeper is effectively turned off. Note: Developer ID-signed apps that have been 
inappropriately altered will not open, even with this option selected." has been removed in Sierra.


The rest of the article is valid, especially the Right click option which is the easiest way to 
activate non-signed applications on macOS.


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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2016-10-15, 3:18 PM Ian King wrote


Is OpenOffice compatible with Mac OS Sierra? I had read that Sierra no longer 
includes JAVA and that means OpenOffice will not operate properly. Am I 
mistaken?


macOS Sierra, like all version of Mac OS X starting with Lion do not include Java an any update 
to a newer version removes the legacy Apple version of Java.
The legacy version of Java can be downloaded from Apple: 
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572?locale=en_CA


The database portion of AOO and the mailmerge functions require Java. It is best to install the 
current version of Java as well as the legacy version. It is available from 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html



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Re: Open office won't open properly

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2016-10-15, 1:27 PM Margaret Keasberry wrote concerning "Open office won't open 
properly":

Hello,  I have tried everything there is a box that pops up that says the 
program wasn’t shutdown properly and would I lie to re open windows  I have 
tried to re open  to no avail or asked not to re -open but the box won’t go
away . I can see the options for the pages behind the box but it won’t let me 
type into  or do anything  Please help  I have tried everything  It also won’t 
open any previously written documents

Thank you I have tried all the forums but nothing is even dressed to this

hope you can help


This question has been answered dozens of times on the forum. See 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html


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Re: what is the jre environment looking for?

[Girvin R. Herr]

On 10/15/2016 12:38 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:

On 10/15/16 13:15, Gary Aitken wrote:


After re-installing my os (freebsd 10.3), aoo (4.1.2), mysql (5.6),
and java (openjdk7, 8) when I attempt to open a database I get the
message
   "No Java installation found..."
ok...

The
   Tools/Options/OpenOffice/Java
dialog shows no installed jre.
I presume this is because they are installed in /usr/local/openjdkx
which is not the standard linux place.

However, when I go to add a JRE, it complains about the folder I selected
not containing a java runtime environment.

Which folder should I be pointing at?
I've tried
   /usr/local/openjdk7
   /usr/local/openjdk7/jre
   /usr/local/openjdk7/lib
   /usr/local/openjdk7/bin
   /usr/local/openjdk7-jre
   /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/bin
   /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/lib

What, specifically, is it looking for to detect a jre?
I've tried installing only the jre port, /usr/local/openjdk7-jre,
but pointing at it doesn't help either.

It seemed to work after installing openjdk8-jre

But the question remains, what is it looking for to identify a jre?
Why doesn't it identify openjdk7-jre as valid?

Thanks,

Gary

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Gary,
usr/local is a valid place to install programs in *nix.  However, I have 
done so and found that some programs expect to be in /usr or expect to 
find programs in /usr, not /usr/local, so beware.


Do you have a JAVA_HOME environment variable?  If so, what is it 
pointing to?
Mine, on Slackware Linux, is pointing to /usr/lib/java .  By what you 
say above, I would guess yours should be pointing to /usr/local/openjdk7 
.  I have reluctantly installed Oracle jdk 1.8.0_40, so some locations 
may be different with openjdk7, but the concept should be the same.


My OpenOffice java path is pointing to /usr/lib/java/jre .
Normally, AOO searches the familiar paths for the java and posts the 
ones it finds in the  Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice -> Java dialog.  If 
a java is selected in that dialog, down at the bottom, it has a 
"Location" where it found it.  I would try the JAVA_HOME first, and if 
that is set properly and AOO still cannot find the java, then manually 
"Add" your java path to the dialog.


Another note about java and database connectors.  I use 
mysql-connector-java-5.1.18-bin.jar to connect my AOO to my mariadb 
(mysql) server.  The jar files must be located in a specific place to be 
recognized by java (the jre).  Mine is in /usr/lib/java/jre/lib/ext/. , 
or ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/ext/. .


HTH.
Girvin Herr



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Re: what is the jre environment looking for?

[Gary Aitken]

On 10/15/16 18:14, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/15/2016 12:38 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:
>> On 10/15/16 13:15, Gary Aitken wrote:
>> 
>>> After re-installing my os (freebsd 10.3), aoo (4.1.2), mysql
>>> (5.6), and java (openjdk7, 8) when I attempt to open a database I
>>> get the message "No Java installation found..." ok...
>>> 
>>> The Tools/Options/OpenOffice/Java dialog shows no installed jre. 
>>> I presume this is because they are installed in
>>> /usr/local/openjdkx which is not the standard linux place.
>>> 
>>> However, when I go to add a JRE, it complains about the folder I
>>> selected not containing a java runtime environment.
>>> 
>>> Which folder should I be pointing at? I've tried 
>>> /usr/local/openjdk7 /usr/local/openjdk7/jre 
>>> /usr/local/openjdk7/lib /usr/local/openjdk7/bin 
>>> /usr/local/openjdk7-jre /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/bin 
>>> /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/lib
>>> 
>>> What, specifically, is it looking for to detect a jre? I've tried
>>> installing only the jre port, /usr/local/openjdk7-jre, but
>>> pointing at it doesn't help either.
>> It seemed to work after installing openjdk8-jre
>> 
>> But the question remains, what is it looking for to identify a
>> jre? Why doesn't it identify openjdk7-jre as valid?

>> 
> Gary, usr/local is a valid place to install programs in *nix.
> However, I have done so and found that some programs expect to be in
> /usr or expect to find programs in /usr, not /usr/local, so beware.
> 
> Do you have a JAVA_HOME environment variable?  If so, what is it
> pointing to? Mine, on Slackware Linux, is pointing to /usr/lib/java .
> By what you say above, I would guess yours should be pointing to
> /usr/local/openjdk7 .  I have reluctantly installed Oracle jdk
> 1.8.0_40, so some locations may be different with openjdk7, but the
> concept should be the same.

I don't have JAVA_HOME set, but do have JAVA_VERSION set (1.7)
That may be an issue at some point, but for this particular problem
I don't think it is (since openjdk8-jre showed up ok).

> My OpenOffice java path is pointing to /usr/lib/java/jre . Normally,
> AOO searches the familiar paths for the java and posts the ones it
> finds in the  Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice -> Java dialog.  If a
> java is selected in that dialog, down at the bottom, it has a
> "Location" where it found it.  I would try the JAVA_HOME first, and
> if that is set properly and AOO still cannot find the java, then
> manually "Add" your java path to the dialog.

The problem is that manually adding a path doesn't work.
I have both openjdk7-jre and openjdk8-jre installed,
as well as the complete jdk7 and jdk8;
in /usr/local/openjdk7-jre and /usr/local/openjdk8-jre and
/usr/local/openjdk7 and /usr/local/openjdk8 respectively.
Aoo automagically found the jre in openjdk8-jre, but not the one
in openjdk7-jre, or the ones in the full openjdkX installs.
If I open the dialog and point it at /usr/local/openjdk7-jre, 
it claims there is no valid jre there.
However, there *is* as nearly as I can tell.  
In particular, /usr/local/openjdk7-jre/lib/rt.jar exists and is
readable.  Same for /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/rt.jar.
Which is why I'm wondering how it determines whether a jre is present
or not.

With only JAVA_VERSION set (to 1.7), compiles and executions seem
to do the right thing:

$ java -version
openjdk version "1.7.0_91"
$ javac garya/ClassTest.java
$ ls -lt garya
total 16
-rw-r--r--  1 garya  1001  246 Oct 15 20:09 Cl.class
-rw-r--r--  1 garya  1001  533 Oct 15 20:09 ClassTest.class
-rwxr-xr-x  1 garya  1001  415 Oct 15 20:07 ClassTest.java
$ java garya.ClassTest
Hello

> Another note about java and database connectors.  I use
> mysql-connector-java-5.1.18-bin.jar to connect my AOO to my mariadb
> (mysql) server.  The jar files must be located in a specific place to
> be recognized by java (the jre).  Mine is in
> /usr/lib/java/jre/lib/ext/. , or ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/ext/. .

Already have that one covered, although I'm using 5.1.37
Mine is in /usr/local/openjdkX-jre/lib/ext similar to yours,
although it is actually a symlink to an installed port; the
actual file is in /usr/local/share/java/classes/mysql-connector-java.jar

Thanks

> HTH. Girvin Herr


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