Re: Open Office crashes ?

2024-02-15 Thread William Morder


This may or may not help, as I am running OpenOffice on a Linux machine; 
however, I did have that same problem. 

First thing for me was to make sure that I had purged my system of any 
competing application (notably, LibreOffice). I am uncertain how to go about 
this on your machine, as I haven't used other systems in a very long time. 

Also, it might not matter so much with a different system. Most Linux systems 
install LibreOffice by default, and moreover keep trying to uninstall 
OpenOffice and to install LibreOffice instead. So that part may or may not 
apply to your situation, but it's worth considering. 

Second is the actual trick that I used to get OpenOffice to run without 
crashing. After trying to start OpenOffice by clicking to open, and by trying 
to open various office documents with OpenOffice, it occurred to me to try a 
plain text document (that is, with the extension .txt). 

I just clicked on the plain text document, and used the "open with" dialog, 
then chose OpenOffice, and bingo! it worked. It's been running without a 
hitch ever since. 

Bill



On Thursday 15 February 2024 02:16:51 Newforce Pty Ltd wrote:
> Dear Users,
> I have a Windows 11 computer and I have installed then uninstalled and
> reinstalled Open Office 4.1.15 suite.
> Any of my Open Office applications always crash immediately upon starting,
> every time. I then get the notice to allow it to either 'wait for the
> programme to respond' or 'close the programme'.
> I always choose to 'close the programme' . It then sends a crash report to
> Microsoft (but I never get anything from them).
> Then, if I open the Open Office application immediately, it comes good
> straight away with full functionality.
> How do I fix this issue ?
> Yours faithfully,
> Mr G Douglas


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Re: PDF to odt problem

2023-12-15 Thread William Morder


There is perhaps a way to do this, but it's probably for Linux only. And even 
so, if you can do it, it probably won't be quite what you want (that is, 
pdf-to-odt format). 

It's possible to extract the text from a pdf. The Linux tool is called 
pdftotext, and there are probably applications like it for Windoze and the 
rotten Apple, but again, they only extract text. 

If I were faced with this problem, I would try copying the text from the pdf, 
if your pdf reader will allow it. (Again, I am running Linux, so this usually 
isn't a problem.) Then I would paste the text into a blank odt document, one 
paragraph at a time. Or -- if the document isn't too long -- I would print 
out the pdf, or open it in your pdf reader, then type it in by hand. 

I know this probably isn't the solution you want, but there really aren't many 
other solutions. A pdf document is essentially a photograph of a text 
document. The actual text in the document is now only a picture of each page. 

Good luck! 

Bill




On Friday 15 December 2023 09:33:18 Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:07:44 +
>
> "W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof."  wrote:
> > I assume that by 'totally distorted' Yvonne meant that the text was
> > present but the formatting was scrambled. If that is the case, I don't
> > think that optical character recognition (OCR) software would do any
> > better, and it might introduce errors in the text itself.
> >
> > I'm not aware of any better solution than using PDF-to-text conversion
> > software, which is what I assume the Best Buy people did. It might be
> > worth looking for such software that does a better job of reproducing the
> > original formatting. In my experience, a fair amount of manual editing is
> > required, depending on how complicated the formatting was.
> >
> > - Robert
>
> Almost every OCR program which produces plain text will require substantial
> reformatting, which the proposed alterations may well require anyway.  OCR,
> no matter how accurately carried out, will have a small error rate: in my
> experience 1% to 2%, which will require detailed proofreadng and
> correction.
>
> Some careful searching may reveal PDF to ODT conversion programs that
> preserve formatting, but the need for detailed proofreading and correction
> will still exist. On the occasions I OCR long texts, I always reformat.
>
> Rory
>
> > 
> > From: Terence Warby 
> > Sent: December 15, 2023 10:38
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: Re: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I think the best thing to do is to run the pdf file through an OCR
> > program. This will recover the text and you can the edit this in
> > OpenOffice writer. Hope this helps. 
> > From: AOL Mail 
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 1:14:50 AM
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> > Subject: PDF to odt problem
> >
> > I am trying to change a PDF file to odt.  I also take it to Best Buy and
> > when the techs converted it to odt and wanted to open it on Open Office
> > --- it was totally distorted.  If I send you a PDF file can you convert
> > it for me to odt, please.  It is a book my husband, who is an author,
> > wrote, and it needs some changes.  My odt files disappeared, so the only
> > way out is converting a PDF to odt. I will really appreciate it very much
> > Yvonne Barkhuizen


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