Re: EPUB from OpenOffice
On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:31:33 -0500 Tamblyne tambl...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 4:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. I finally had a chance to try this, and while I love the other aspects of Calibre, the conversion to epub wasn't great as regards it's handling of the styles. So -- to convert do you need a document without any formatting? Thanks Tam I can't answer that in any detail; later this year I will have occasion to convert a book text to some form of epub and will have to read up the intricacies of Calibre's .odt conversion. I am aware that it can be fine tuned to pick up and convert many of the formattings in the .odt, but haven't looked into that in depth yet. Any form of format conversion usually entails decision making about the compromises involved; a text formatted for (say) a US Letter page may not adjust immediately to the reduced and dynamic page/textflow of an ereader. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EPUB from OpenOffice
On 05/10/2013 04:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:31:33 -0500 Tamblyne tambl...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 4:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. I finally had a chance to try this, and while I love the other aspects of Calibre, the conversion to epub wasn't great as regards it's handling of the styles. So -- to convert do you need a document without any formatting? Thanks Tam I can't answer that in any detail; later this year I will have occasion to convert a book text to some form of epub and will have to read up the intricacies of Calibre's .odt conversion. I am aware that it can be fine tuned to pick up and convert many of the formattings in the .odt, but haven't looked into that in depth yet. Any form of format conversion usually entails decision making about the compromises involved; a text formatted for (say) a US Letter page may not adjust immediately to the reduced and dynamic page/textflow of an ereader. What I have found that works rather well is to use Calibre to convert ODT to ePUB. Then I use Sigil to clean up the underlying html files. I use these settings in Sigil's Preferences in the Clean Source section: HTML Tiddy, Open, Save, and Replace all files. We had a post that mentioned Tiddy in a web article in which the author mentioned that using his method to clean up the code while converting OTD to ePUB. The only problem with the article is that there seems to be no information on the web for how to install Tiddy on Ubuntu (the OS that I use). Sigil seems to install and use Tiddy to clean up the code. FYI: The conversion of ODT to ePUB involves converting a single ODT file to multiple HTML files based upon your settings in Calibre. These files are zipped along with other information, and the zipped file is given the ePUB suffix. --Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: EPUB from OpenOffice
Pamela Wilson provides some free seminars on making ebooks, http://www.bigbrandsystem.com/free-brown-bag-webinars/#3. Apache OpenOffice Writer is featured as the preferred authoring too. The bundled materials that are for sale include ODT templates. There is also guidance and explanation of what it takes to format for EPUB and have good results. EPUB formats are restricted and attempting to make a heavily styled document is not a good idea. The proposed approach works for submissions of Kindle books also. The associated materials are not inexpensive, in the $100-$200 US range. They are intended for folks who are serious about publishing or who want to provide authoring services to others. After the initial expense, there is no reuse limitation and there are no royalty obligations, however. Calibre for creating eReader-ready format. There is an assumption that folks are using Windows or Macintosh OSX. There's an On-Demand Webinar for eBook Evolution that is recommended for folks who are not professional authors/writers as well. I presume that it features the eBook Evolution package that is offered as a product. I haven't explored this: http://www.bigbrandsystem.com/ultimate-ebook-kickstart/. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dan Lewis [mailto:elderdanle...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 03:53 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: EPUB from OpenOffice On 05/10/2013 04:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:31:33 -0500 Tamblyne tambl...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 4:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. I finally had a chance to try this, and while I love the other aspects of Calibre, the conversion to epub wasn't great as regards it's handling of the styles. So -- to convert do you need a document without any formatting? Thanks Tam I can't answer that in any detail; later this year I will have occasion to convert a book text to some form of epub and will have to read up the intricacies of Calibre's .odt conversion. I am aware that it can be fine tuned to pick up and convert many of the formattings in the .odt, but haven't looked into that in depth yet. Any form of format conversion usually entails decision making about the compromises involved; a text formatted for (say) a US Letter page may not adjust immediately to the reduced and dynamic page/textflow of an ereader. What I have found that works rather well is to use Calibre to convert ODT to ePUB. Then I use Sigil to clean up the underlying html files. I use these settings in Sigil's Preferences in the Clean Source section: HTML Tiddy, Open, Save, and Replace all files. We had a post that mentioned Tiddy in a web article in which the author mentioned that using his method to clean up the code while converting OTD to ePUB. The only problem with the article is that there seems to be no information on the web for how to install Tiddy on Ubuntu (the OS that I use). Sigil seems to install and use Tiddy to clean up the code. FYI: The conversion of ODT to ePUB involves converting a single ODT file to multiple HTML files based upon your settings in Calibre. These files are zipped along with other information, and the zipped file is given the ePUB suffix. --Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EPUB from OpenOffice
The Webinar mentioned later is an hour long infomercial about the eBook Evolution product. There were also a general outline of the process that was very general in nature. I'm not sure if there was anything in it that could not be learned from other sources, but the general ideas presented might help someone. Perhaps the free seminars might be more specific. As far as the link to the free brown bag webinars, the outline of the two webinars available at the link below contains some of the same information found in the ultimate-ebook webinar that I watched from the second link. Neither link seems to give enough information for it to be useful to me. Disclaimer: I use Linux as my OS exclusively, so none of this information is of any use to me that I can see. Perhaps an ODT template can be developed by a person for AOO that could be used with Calibre to create an ePUB document that has fairly clean code. This could then be used by people who only use Linux. --Dan On 05/10/2013 12:10 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Pamela Wilson provides some free seminars on making ebooks, http://www.bigbrandsystem.com/free-brown-bag-webinars/#3. Apache OpenOffice Writer is featured as the preferred authoring too. The bundled materials that are for sale include ODT templates. There is also guidance and explanation of what it takes to format for EPUB and have good results. EPUB formats are restricted and attempting to make a heavily styled document is not a good idea. The proposed approach works for submissions of Kindle books also. The associated materials are not inexpensive, in the $100-$200 US range. They are intended for folks who are serious about publishing or who want to provide authoring services to others. After the initial expense, there is no reuse limitation and there are no royalty obligations, however. Calibre for creating eReader-ready format. There is an assumption that folks are using Windows or Macintosh OSX. There's an On-Demand Webinar for eBook Evolution that is recommended for folks who are not professional authors/writers as well. I presume that it features the eBook Evolution package that is offered as a product. I haven't explored this: http://www.bigbrandsystem.com/ultimate-ebook-kickstart/. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dan Lewis [mailto:elderdanle...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 03:53 To:users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: EPUB from OpenOffice On 05/10/2013 04:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:31:33 -0500 Tamblynetambl...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 4:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* *http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* *http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. I finally had a chance to try this, and while I love the other aspects of Calibre, the conversion to epub wasn't great as regards it's handling of the styles. So -- to convert do you need a document without any formatting? Thanks Tam I can't answer that in any detail; later this year I will have occasion to convert a book text to some form of epub and will have to read up the intricacies of Calibre's .odt conversion. I am aware that it can be fine tuned to pick up and convert many of the formattings in the .odt, but haven't looked into that in depth yet. Any form of format conversion usually entails decision making about the compromises involved; a text formatted for (say) a US Letter page may not adjust immediately to the reduced and dynamic page/textflow of an ereader. What I have found that works rather well is to use Calibre to convert ODT to ePUB. Then I use Sigil to clean up the underlying html files. I use these settings in Sigil's Preferences in the Clean Source section: HTML Tiddy, Open, Save, and Replace all files. We had a post that mentioned Tiddy in a web article in which the author mentioned that using his method to clean up the code while converting OTD to ePUB. The only problem with the article is that there seems to be no information on the web for how to install Tiddy on Ubuntu (the OS that I use). Sigil seems to install and use Tiddy to clean up the code. FYI: The conversion of ODT to ePUB involves converting a single ODT file to multiple
Re: EPUB from OpenOffice
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/10/2013 04:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:31:33 -0500 Tamblyne tambl...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 4:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. I finally had a chance to try this, and while I love the other aspects of Calibre, the conversion to epub wasn't great as regards it's handling of the styles. So -- to convert do you need a document without any formatting? Thanks Tam I can't answer that in any detail; later this year I will have occasion to convert a book text to some form of epub and will have to read up the intricacies of Calibre's .odt conversion. I am aware that it can be fine tuned to pick up and convert many of the formattings in the .odt, but haven't looked into that in depth yet. Any form of format conversion usually entails decision making about the compromises involved; a text formatted for (say) a US Letter page may not adjust immediately to the reduced and dynamic page/textflow of an ereader. What I have found that works rather well is to use Calibre to convert ODT to ePUB. Then I use Sigil to clean up the underlying html files. I use these settings in Sigil's Preferences in the Clean Source section: HTML Tiddy, Open, Save, and Replace all files. Hi Dan, Does that workflow you describe preserve the Table of Contents from the document, so it becomes a proper TOC in EPUB, not list a list of hyperlinks? -Rob We had a post that mentioned Tiddy in a web article in which the author mentioned that using his method to clean up the code while converting OTD to ePUB. The only problem with the article is that there seems to be no information on the web for how to install Tiddy on Ubuntu (the OS that I use). Sigil seems to install and use Tiddy to clean up the code. FYI: The conversion of ODT to ePUB involves converting a single ODT file to multiple HTML files based upon your settings in Calibre. These files are zipped along with other information, and the zipped file is given the ePUB suffix. --Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EPUB from OpenOffice
On 05/10/2013 04:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/10/2013 04:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:31:33 -0500 Tamblyne tambl...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 4:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. I finally had a chance to try this, and while I love the other aspects of Calibre, the conversion to epub wasn't great as regards it's handling of the styles. So -- to convert do you need a document without any formatting? Thanks Tam I can't answer that in any detail; later this year I will have occasion to convert a book text to some form of epub and will have to read up the intricacies of Calibre's .odt conversion. I am aware that it can be fine tuned to pick up and convert many of the formattings in the .odt, but haven't looked into that in depth yet. Any form of format conversion usually entails decision making about the compromises involved; a text formatted for (say) a US Letter page may not adjust immediately to the reduced and dynamic page/textflow of an ereader. What I have found that works rather well is to use Calibre to convert ODT to ePUB. Then I use Sigil to clean up the underlying html files. I use these settings in Sigil's Preferences in the Clean Source section: HTML Tiddy, Open, Save, and Replace all files. Hi Dan, Does that workflow you describe preserve the Table of Contents from the document, so it becomes a proper TOC in EPUB, not list a list of hyperlinks? -Rob I would think the answer is yes, but it depends upon what you mean by proper TOC. It is a list of the headings used in the document in the form of hyperlinks. When one of these is clicked, you are taken to the selected heading. Each level of the TOC has a style applied to it that has at least two properties: font size, and left margin. So, the TOC contains indentations that are determined by the level of a particular heading. I'm not sure if this answers your concerns. If you want, I could convert a copy of AOO3_4_chapter_template1.odt and send it to you off-line. I have the template so it is no problem creating the odt file from it. --Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EPUB from OpenOffice
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. Interesting. I have Calibre but didn't notice it handled ODF files. I'll give it a try. Thanks, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
EPUB from OpenOffice
*I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. -Rob
