Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

2020-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Hagar Delest wrote:
There IS an issue somewhere. I do not doubt that this is a weird issue 
but it happens, period.


It is very hard to get a copy of a broken profile to study. When the 
report was more frequent, years ago, we asked for broken profiles and I 
think we even built a survey to help identifying the cause; but that 
didn't help (honestly, many users are even unable to fix it with the 
instructions we give them).



then they may have found something, then there may be something to be found.


At a point it was believed that the original problem was the decision to 
migrate 3.x profiles over to 4.x; "sometimes" this would result in 
damaging the profile; it would be interesting to know whether this is 
still reasonable or whether people manage to get this error even if they 
install a fresh 4.1.7 and keep using it.


This would also explain why other programs don't have the issue, if they 
really don't.


Focusing on what we can do now, I'd say the easiest thing to do is a 
"Tools - Reset profile" menu item, or alternatively a "Start with a 
fresh profile" option at install time. Volunteers welcome etc... but 
this would probably be helpful to users beyond the specific issue.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

2020-10-13 Thread Hagar Delest



Le 13/10/2020 à 18:31, Brian Barker a écrit :
Aha! But this problem is not a matter of "the spell checker doesn't 
work", so we don't know - indeed you don't know - that this is what 
the original questioner is experiencing. And you didn't indicate that 
this different problem - that spelling checking works until you 
mishandle your computer but then doesn't - is what you were talking about.

What makes you think that the user mishandled his computer?
This has been a recurring issue in the forum as well. I can't believe 
that all these users do mishandle their computer.


Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you 
already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these 
two office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution 
would be to apply the same solution.


Yes, I agree that this later problem should be prevented, but we 
should not give users generally the untrue idea that "the spell 
checker doesn't work". Meanwhile we should encourage them into the 
good practice that avoids it anyway.

What kind of best practice do you have in mind?

There IS an issue somewhere. I do not doubt that this is a weird issue 
but it happens, period. If LO has fixed the problem, then they may have 
found something, then there may be something to be found.


Hagar

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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

2020-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 10/13/2020 11:00 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:
>> At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:
>>> On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
 When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work on
 Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell
 checker doesn't work.
>>>
>>> A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?
>>
>> Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for
>> millions of others. Why not for you?
>>
>> Brian Barker
> 
>    For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by
> some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more.
> Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you
> already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these two
> office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution would
> be to apply the same solution.
> 
>    I also know that this affect very few people, but it is a consistent
> problem that appears in this mailing list.
> 
> 
> Dan
Dan;

Just because LO fixed it does not mean that AOO can apply that patch. In
general LO is duel licensed under Mozilla Public License v2 and the GNU
Lesser GPL v3+ licenses which are incompatible with the Apache License
version 2.0 (ALV2) and cannot be used unless the developer also
licensees it under the ALV2[1].

[1] https://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x



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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

2020-10-13 Thread Dan Lewis



On 10/13/20 12:31, Brian Barker wrote:

At 11:00 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:

At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work 
on Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell 
checker doesn't work.


A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?


Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for 
millions of others. Why not for you?


For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by 
some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more.


Aha! But this problem is not a matter of "the spell checker doesn't 
work", so we don't know - indeed you don't know - that this is what 
the original questioner is experiencing. And you didn't indicate that 
this different problem - that spelling checking works until you 
mishandle your computer but then doesn't - is what you were talking 
about.


Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you 
already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these 
two office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution 
would be to apply the same solution.


Yes, I agree that this later problem should be prevented, but we 
should not give users generally the untrue idea that "the spell 
checker doesn't work". Meanwhile we should encourage them into the 
good practice that avoids it anyway.


Brian Barker


I agree with you. What I should have pointed out as to what the likely 
problem is that the user was having which I did not. Instead I assumed 
that everyone would know what has been obvious on so many computers 
running OOo: the configuration folder has become corrupt. It has become 
a reflex action.


Dan

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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

2020-10-13 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:00 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:

At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work 
on Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell 
checker doesn't work.


A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?


Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for 
millions of others. Why not for you?


For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by 
some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more.


Aha! But this problem is not a matter of "the spell checker doesn't 
work", so we don't know - indeed you don't know - that this is what 
the original questioner is experiencing. And you didn't indicate that 
this different problem - that spelling checking works until you 
mishandle your computer but then doesn't - is what you were talking about.


Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you 
already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these 
two office programs are very similar, I would think that the 
solution would be to apply the same solution.


Yes, I agree that this later problem should be prevented, but we 
should not give users generally the untrue idea that "the spell 
checker doesn't work". Meanwhile we should encourage them into the 
good practice that avoids it anyway.


Brian Barker  



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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

2020-10-13 Thread Dan Lewis



On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:

At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work on 
Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell 
checker doesn't work.


A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?


Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for 
millions of others. Why not for you?


Brian Barker


   For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by 
some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more. 
Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you 
already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these two 
office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution would 
be to apply the same solution.


   I also know that this affect very few people, but it is a consistent 
problem that appears in this mailing list.



Dan


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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

2020-10-13 Thread Brian Barker

At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work 
on Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell 
checker doesn't work.


A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?


Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for 
millions of others. Why not for you?


Brian Barker 



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