Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Fernando Cassia: Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Please, just admit Apache OO is dead, and will never be relevant again unless some company will grease some minister in some 3rd world government to build that state ECM system on it. For average customer it is already obsoleted by LO. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgusers-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.**orgusers-h...@openoffice.apache.org Maybe some of you missed this recent Bossie award (2013/09/07) to Apache OpenOffice... http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/119867/bossie-awards-2013-the-best-open-source-desktop-and-mobile-software-226979#slide8 Dead? I think not. :) Keeping alive and lively! -- - MzK Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. -- Following the Equator, Mark Twain
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Scooter scoo...@scootersdesk.com wrote: I'm a bit confused. It shows. Some comments below each of your statements What is FOSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software FUD http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt and why would any of us think Open Office is pretty much only a memory (per Mr Cassia).? I didnt say that. I quoted an article. And included the URL so that others could read it in its entirety. How and why is Mr Cassia in this List group If he detests AOO so much Please try to understand what you read before you accuse someone of something. The purpose of my e-mail was to alert the group of yet another article smearing Apache Open Office. I do support AOO, I use it daily. The rest of my message, which you failed to grasp, tried to highlight that the arguments used by some in the LO camp against AOO are the same used by MariaDB against MySQL, in a nutshell that: -that a corporation being the main contributor to an open source project is in itself a bad thing -that dual licensing is bad (not used against AOO but was used against Sun OpenOffice.org before, and Oracle after that) -that AOO contributors were mostly IBMers - MDB accuses MySQL of being developed mostly by Oracle employees -that forking in the name of community gives better results overall for the health of a project rather than engaging with the upstream corporate sponsor of it. I personally think -like Canonical's Shutleworth- 1. that the OO.o-LO fork was an unfortunate event 2. That the split hurt both projects more than it helped 3. That the reasons invoked for the split were magnified, and included a large dose of FUD (I guess you know what it means by now) 4. That part of the IT press played a role in magnifying Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, hence creating a self fulfilling prophecy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy Those were my thoughts. If high-level historical analysis of events confuses you, please, dont answer. ;-) Best FC - FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:31:54 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Fernando Cassia: Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Please, just admit Apache OO is dead, and will never be relevant again unless some company will grease some minister in some 3rd world government to build that state ECM system on it. For average customer it is already obsoleted by LO. You've never been accused of being intelligent, right? -- Help spread the word! Learn about Jury Nullification! Help take back our country from our corrupt government! www DOT fija DOT org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
LibreOffice is a pile of crapware in my experience. Q.C. seems to be missing in action! OpenOffice has always done what I need to get done without irritating the daylights out of me. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: (and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's investments in FOSS to end). LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world as well. OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mariadb-130916110509.html Citebite archive: http://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but not before it was widely spread around... This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever. https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608 https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208 Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT journalism. Case in point:http://tinyurl.com/muktware-liars vs reality http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f Or: http://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vti vs:reality: https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225 This isnt healthy. It needs to stop. In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle, investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans, Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox, etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else? Thinking aloud FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
Good Morning Group, I'm a bit confused. What is FOSS FUD and why would any of us think Open Office is pretty much only a memory (per Mr Cassia).? I join Mr. Davis' opinion. I tried LibreOffice (LO) not knowing about Apache Open Office (AOO), and didn't like LO. It was too different from OO 3.3. If Mr Cassia is literally referring to the Open Office of Oracle then he is correct, but LO ain't it. How and why is Mr Cassia in this List group If he detests AOO so much. I can't judge his statements about the Linux version, I am a happy Win7 user of AOO, especially since it went into Apache's main level of support. I read the articles included in Mr Cassia's email. I didn't understand , since most of it referred to SQL, MySQL, Maria/DB and not to LibreOffice The websites were geared to Linux, maybe that's why this diatribe makes no sense to me. Take Care. Scooter College Park, MD USA Chuck Davis wrote on 9/18/2013 5:58 AM: LibreOffice is a pile of crapware in my experience. Q.C. seems to be missing in action! OpenOffice has always done what I need to get done without irritating the daylights out of me. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: (and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's investments in FOSS to end). LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world as well. OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mariadb-130916110509.html Citebite archive: http://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but not before it was widely spread around... This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever. https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608 https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208 Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT journalism. Case in point:http://tinyurl.com/muktware-liars vs reality http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f Or: http://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vti vs:reality: https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225 This isnt healthy. It needs to stop. In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle, investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans, Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox, etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else? Thinking aloud FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
Hi Scooter, Actually Fernando was reporting on what others had said, not stating his opinion. Just to clear that up for you. I hope you continue to enjoy your experience with AOO. //drew On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Scooter scoo...@scootersdesk.com wrote: Good Morning Group, I'm a bit confused. What is FOSS FUD and why would any of us think Open Office is pretty much only a memory (per Mr Cassia).? I join Mr. Davis' opinion. I tried LibreOffice (LO) not knowing about Apache Open Office (AOO), and didn't like LO. It was too different from OO 3.3. If Mr Cassia is literally referring to the Open Office of Oracle then he is correct, but LO ain't it. How and why is Mr Cassia in this List group If he detests AOO so much. I can't judge his statements about the Linux version, I am a happy Win7 user of AOO, especially since it went into Apache's main level of support. I read the articles included in Mr Cassia's email. I didn't understand , since most of it referred to SQL, MySQL, Maria/DB and not to LibreOffice The websites were geared to Linux, maybe that's why this diatribe makes no sense to me. Take Care. Scooter College Park, MD USA Chuck Davis wrote on 9/18/2013 5:58 AM: LibreOffice is a pile of crapware in my experience. Q.C. seems to be missing in action! OpenOffice has always done what I need to get done without irritating the daylights out of me. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: (and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's investments in FOSS to end). LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world as well. OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory http://www.linuxtoday.com/**upload/oracle-losing-its-** mysql-grip-to-mariadb-**130916110509.htmlhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mariadb-130916110509.html Citebite archive: http://pages.citebite.com/**l2e1g0y0r4kpbhttp://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but not before it was widely spread around... This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever. https://twitter.com/sheeri/**status/372319624043716608https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608 https://twitter.com/sheeri/**status/372099540624478208https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208 Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT journalism. Case in point:http://tinyurl.com/**muktware-liarshttp://tinyurl.com/muktware-liarsvs reality http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f Or: http://pages.citebite.com/**c2u1y0m0q5vtihttp://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vtivs:reality: https://twitter.com/myfear/**status/380190532552884225https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225 This isnt healthy. It needs to stop. In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/** e7v0f3m9sder http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle, investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans, Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox, etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else? Thinking aloud FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwel --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgusers-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.**orgusers-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgusers-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.**orgusers-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
FOSS usually means Free and Open Source Software. FUD usually means Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (or Disinformation). Maurice Howe (a happy AOO user) -Original Message- From: Scooter [mailto:scoo...@scootersdesk.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:43 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land) Good Morning Group, I'm a bit confused. What is FOSS FUD and why would any of us think Open Office is pretty much only a memory (per Mr Cassia).? I join Mr. Davis' opinion. I tried LibreOffice (LO) not knowing about Apache Open Office (AOO), and didn't like LO. It was too different from OO 3.3. If Mr Cassia is literally referring to the Open Office of Oracle then he is correct, but LO ain't it. How and why is Mr Cassia in this List group If he detests AOO so much. I can't judge his statements about the Linux version, I am a happy Win7 user of AOO, especially since it went into Apache's main level of support. I read the articles included in Mr Cassia's email. I didn't understand , since most of it referred to SQL, MySQL, Maria/DB and not to LibreOffice The websites were geared to Linux, maybe that's why this diatribe makes no sense to me. Take Care. Scooter College Park, MD USA Chuck Davis wrote on 9/18/2013 5:58 AM: LibreOffice is a pile of crapware in my experience. Q.C. seems to be missing in action! OpenOffice has always done what I need to get done without irritating the daylights out of me. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: (and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's investments in FOSS to end). LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world as well. OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mari adb-130916110509.html Citebite archive: http://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but not before it was widely spread around... This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever. https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608 https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208 Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT journalism. Case in point:http://tinyurl.com/muktware-liars vs reality http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f Or: http://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vti vs:reality: https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225 This isnt healthy. It needs to stop. In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle, investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans, Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox, etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else? Thinking aloud FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6676 - Release Date: 09/17/13 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
As a predominately Linux user of AOO, I can say that it is generally very good - I think I may have had a couple crashes with the 4.0 version, but I honestly can't remember. I much prefer AOO over LO. The only place I have had issues with the AndroOpenOffice port for Android which while coming along is still a ways from being production quality, but it's not maintained at all with this community - the developer, I'm told, has expressly decided not to. That said, AOO on Linux is a bit more problematic mainly because it does not enjoy the same level of distribution integration that LO has. I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. So I'm left somewhat stuck for the time being, until I get around to doing the integration myself if it doesn't happen in the community first. If there integration were there, then I think it's be a first class experience just like on Windows. Ben From: Scooter scoo...@scootersdesk.com To: users@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land) Good Morning Group, I'm a bit confused. What is FOSS FUD and why would any of us think Open Office is pretty much only a memory (per Mr Cassia).? I join Mr. Davis' opinion. I tried LibreOffice (LO) not knowing about Apache Open Office (AOO), and didn't like LO. It was too different from OO 3.3. If Mr Cassia is literally referring to the Open Office of Oracle then he is correct, but LO ain't it. How and why is Mr Cassia in this List group If he detests AOO so much. I can't judge his statements about the Linux version, I am a happy Win7 user of AOO, especially since it went into Apache's main level of support. I read the articles included in Mr Cassia's email. I didn't understand , since most of it referred to SQL, MySQL, Maria/DB and not to LibreOffice The websites were geared to Linux, maybe that's why this diatribe makes no sense to me. Take Care. Scooter College Park, MD USA Chuck Davis wrote on 9/18/2013 5:58 AM: LibreOffice is a pile of crapware in my experience. Q.C. seems to be missing in action! OpenOffice has always done what I need to get done without irritating the daylights out of me. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: (and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's investments in FOSS to end). LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world as well. OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mariadb-130916110509.html Citebite archive: http://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but not before it was widely spread around... This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever. https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608 https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208 Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT journalism. Case in point:http://tinyurl.com/muktware-liars vs reality http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f Or: http://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vti vs:reality: https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225 This isnt healthy. It needs to stop. In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle, investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans, Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox, etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else? Thinking aloud FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional
Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)
(and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's investments in FOSS to end). LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world as well. OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mariadb-130916110509.html Citebite archive: http://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but not before it was widely spread around... This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever. https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608 https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208 Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics are the same, lie,lie, and lie again. Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT journalism. Case in point:http://tinyurl.com/muktware-liars vs reality http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f Or: http://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vti vs:reality: https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225 This isnt healthy. It needs to stop. In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle, investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans, Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox, etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else? Thinking aloud FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
