Re: [users] Adding a suggestion to Writer

[Harold Fuchs]

On 10 July 2010 03:56, Tim Johnson  wrote:

> FYI: I am a programmer who works primarily in Linux, but I am
> unfamiliar with Writer. I am asking this question on behest of my
> wife who is an author and is transitioning from MS-Windows.
>
> Here is the scenario. She is running Spell Check. She is shown a
> suggestion. The phrase is:
> "Gee Willikers -- the newlyweds". 'Willikers' is highlighted and
> a series of suggestions are shown.
>
> 1)Suppose she believes that the correct spelling is not among the
> choices "suggested". How can she add to the list of suggestions
> or go to the phrase and edit it?
>

If she uses Tools>Spelling and Grammar (or clicks on the Spelling button on
the toolbar) Writer will iterate across the spelling mistakes it has
identified. For each "mistake" it offers a list of suggestions (as you point
out) but it also offers an "Add" button. If she chooses to add the word, she
can then Resume the iteration. Just above the Add button are "Ignore all"
and "Ignore once" buttons which do the obvious and then automatically
proceed to the next "mistake".


> 2)Can she be taken directly to the line in question? I can see that
> when the Spell Check Window comes up, that the page and line of the
> phrase in question are notated at the bottom of the Writer screen,
> but what is the process to get to it?
>
> thanks
>
>


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Re: [users] Adding a suggestion to Writer

[David Hoehns]

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From: "Tim Johnson" 
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:56 PM
To: 
Subject: [users] Adding a suggestion to Writer


FYI: I am a programmer who works primarily in Linux, but I am
unfamiliar with Writer. I am asking this question on behest of my
wife who is an author and is transitioning from MS-Windows.

Here is the scenario. She is running Spell Check. She is shown a
suggestion. The phrase is:
"Gee Willikers -- the newlyweds". 'Willikers' is highlighted and
a series of suggestions are shown.

1)Suppose she believes that the correct spelling is not among the
choices "suggested". How can she add to the list of suggestions
or go to the phrase and edit it?

2)Can she be taken directly to the line in question? I can see that
when the Spell Check Window comes up, that the page and line of the
phrase in question are notated at the bottom of the Writer screen,
but what is the process to get to it?

thanks
--
Tim


When she gets a spelling the systems assumes to be incorrect, Right clicking 
the work opens a window with among others Add is a choice.  She can Add her 
version to either the overall dictionary or to a newly named dictionary


dh


tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com
http://www.akwebsoft.com

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[users] Adding a suggestion to Writer

[Tim Johnson]

FYI: I am a programmer who works primarily in Linux, but I am
unfamiliar with Writer. I am asking this question on behest of my
wife who is an author and is transitioning from MS-Windows.

Here is the scenario. She is running Spell Check. She is shown a
suggestion. The phrase is:
"Gee Willikers -- the newlyweds". 'Willikers' is highlighted and
a series of suggestions are shown. 

1)Suppose she believes that the correct spelling is not among the
choices "suggested". How can she add to the list of suggestions
or go to the phrase and edit it?

2)Can she be taken directly to the line in question? I can see that
when the Spell Check Window comes up, that the page and line of the
phrase in question are notated at the bottom of the Writer screen,
but what is the process to get to it?

thanks
-- 
Tim 
tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com
http://www.akwebsoft.com

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[users] Format cell failure

[David Hoehns]

Anyone have any thoughts about why my oo calc program crashes every time I 
attempt to format cell.  I have reported it using the recovery program, but 
that is like dropping a rock in a deep well.  I never hear anything back.

I am using latest OO and Windows 7

[users] Re: Saving scanned image as ODT?

[Twayne]

In news:i14t0f$85...@dough.gmane.org,
Gordon  typed:
> On 08/07/2010 17:00, JOE Conner wrote:
>> On 7/8/2010 8:49 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of a Linux scanner utility that will
>>> save the scanned image as odt or something capable of
>>> being imported into odt? (On Windows my wife's HP
>>> Officejet has a function to scan into a Word document -
>>> unfortunately this function doesn't work in Linux!)
>> Assuming you have the scanner drivers for your linux
>> computer, if you open a blank Writer document, then
>> INSERT -> PICTURE -> SCAN -> REQUEST
>>
>> This works for me with a windows box.
>>
>> Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA
>
> But will that be editable, like an ordinary odt document?

That depends on your scanner software and OCR software, if any. Just be sure 
to save the output in a format OO.o understands (text, DOS text, doc, odt, 
rtf, etc.).


If you have OCR (optical Character Recognition) software installed, then 
just as with any other scan you would be able to output an image, then turn 
the text to edtable form of regular text, and each image to a separate 
image. In reality that has nothing to do with OO.o; it would be the same 
with any scanner supportnig the image output. Output the image, use OCR to 
turn it into text + images for non-text areas.
   Then you save that as .rtf or whatever OO.o compatible output you have, 
and save your odt doc.

   In my case:  My scanner allows me to indicate which areas of the scanned 
paper will be text and which areas will be images in a Prevew mode. You just 
tell the scanner what areas to treat as text and which to treat as a 
graphic, then go ahead and scan, save it as a text file, word file, send it 
to the clipboard, whatever you wish to finish working with it. So at least 
in my case the real work takes place right in the Twain Scanner settinigs. 
I'm using an Epson Perfection flatbed scanner to scan large documents and 
Twain scanninig software that came with the scanner. Twain is one of the 
most common formats used with scanners. That's what allows you to outliine 
an area on the scan Preview and tell the scanner whether to initerpret it as 
text or an image.
   Scan==>mark text/image/table areas===>outputs image/text file===>saves in 
format OO.o can read (.rtf, word's .doc, etc..) I usually save it as a Word 
file and then open/resave it with OO.o to an odt file. Hope I've made some 
sort of sense - looking back at what I've said, it seems clumsy.

HTH,

Twayne`




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Re: [users] macro

[Drew Jensen]

-Original Message-
From: Arie Bor 

> Dear Bruce MartinEvery month I count about 60 spreadsheets. On each sheet the
> data of 120 people. in a macro, I call on the sheets, one at a time, and then
> close. To date do I work with Exel. I would like to switch to Openoffice, but 
> I do not know how I should call a sheet.This is the problem. With kind 
> regards Arie Bor 

Hi Arie,

Perhaps this post on the web forum will help:
[Solved] How to read from a calc doc - OOBasic macro
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=23841&start=0

HTH

Drew



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RE: [users] macro

[Arie Bor]

Dear Bruce Martin
Every month I count about 60 spreadsheets. 
On each sheet the data of 120 people. 
in a macro, I call on the sheets, one at a time, and then close. 

To date do I work with Exel. 
I would like to switch to Openoffice, but I do not know how I should call a 
sheet.

This is the problem.  

With kind regards 

Arie Bor 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Bruce Martin [mailto:brucemarti...@gmail.com] 
Verzonden: donderdag 8 juli 2010 21:00
Aan: users@openoffice.org
Onderwerp: Re: [users] macro

Dear Users:

This command's arguments are intended for Windows, and would normally be 
a DDE link, not a macro. It would not work in Linux as to access 
something like that the address would need to be a Linux valid address, 
likely linking to a Windows network via Samba, which must appear in the 
arguments of such Linux calls.

Best Regards,

Bruce M.

On 08/07/2010 10:28 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> 2010/7/6 Arie Bor:
>
>> L.S.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who knows the translation of the Exel statement
>>
>>
>>
>> Workbooks. Open Filename: = "C:\myfiles\tabel1"
>>
>> For XP and Linux
>>  
> I guess I could if I knew anything about Excel macros, but I don't.
> Exactly what does that line do? Open a new file or what? And is it
> supposed to be written on only one line like that?
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
>
>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Arie Bor
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[users] Re: ANN: English Grammar Checker Extension for OpenOffice.org

[Harold Fuchs]

"Raphael Mudge"  wrote in message 
news:70f91d1e-2e7a-4d09-b2dd-716a062fd...@automattic.com...

Hi NoOp,
From: NoOp 
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:41:30 -0700
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Subject: ANN: English Grammar Checker Extension for OpenOffice.org

Thanks Raphael. BTW: testing:



why aren't we all get along?
You not look good today.



http://www.polishmywriting.com/
shows "No writing errors were found.".


What's a "writing error"? If the grammar checker can't report errors using 
correct grammar then we've lost the game before the kick-off.




--
Harold Fuchs
London, England 




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Re: [users] OCR and more, a mini lesson (Re: Saving scanned image as ODT?)

[David Hoehns]

Bruce

Please turn off your confirm read feature in your mail browser.

dh

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From: "Bruce Martin" 
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:48 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [users] OCR and more, a mini lesson (Re: Saving scanned image 
as ODT?)



Dear Sigrid and Others:

When you scan a page of text, what you get, as already explained is an
image.

Going a bit deeper, this is a matrix of dots, not computer text.

Computer text is essentially made up of a string of hexadecimal numbers.
Each character in a code page is associated with a specific hex number.

This dictates the character, but not the font, size colour, style or
associated language. All of these attributes are stored by other
non-printable codes.

As can be seen this is radically different from a raster image.

OCR:

However, if that raster image (assuming it is of adequate graphic
quality, size and resolution) is then passed through OCR (or Optical
Character Recognition) software, which is a separate application, and
may inherently be rather processor demanding at times, the result is one
or other of different text files, which can normally all be opened in
Writer, regardless of the operating platform. It then should be
correctly language coded in Writer, spell checked and proof read.

(Often, a device sold to support Windows includes separate OCR software
that is really not part of the windows driver as it may appear. It is
simply linked to the driver for user convenience.

In Linux, the software may be available, but is likely not linked in the
same way, depending on how the device back end has been written.)

Linux is more complicated than Windows, but also far more powerful and
versatile.

Versatility and complexity generally go hand in hand everywhere.

In short, OCR is like a fast, automated typist - fast, but at times
stupid. Accuracy can be anywhere from 0% to 100%, depending on image
quality, content and many other factors.

My experience tells me that this is an area where you get what you pay 
for.


Although there are a couple of Open Source OCR applications in Linux (at
least for Fedora 12+), I have not yet seen a GUI front end for them.

Generally they want to be run from a terminal command line, which can
make their use very unwieldy. for that reason, I generally do OCR with
commercial paid software on a Windows Platform.

My main machine can boot either Fedora 13 x-64 or Windows XP, BIOS
(firmware) controlled.

SANE (Scanner Access Made Easy) is a common front end for scanners in
Linux, but each model of scanner or multifunction must have its own SANE
back end. Since there are so many models around, there has not been the
programmers' time available to create many of the back ends. Those
models which are supported (or partially) are online in a table as part
of the SANE website.

If one installs a back-end for a composite device, such as a scanner,
printer and/or fax, that back end may support all or any part of the
existing features of the hardware and firmware in the machine.

Each type of feature will normally work with the front end appropriate
to the type of device and the desktop it is intended for. Hence the
printer in such a device is normally supported by CUPS (Common Unix
Printing System) even though both it and the scanner (and possibly fax)
are supported by the respective front ends for their type.

Generally, the more expensive the hardware is/was, the more likely it is
to be supported.

This is for several plausible reasons.

If a user has an expensive piece of hardware, the high price he paid for
it will likely make him (or his company) do what is necessary to ensure
that it is supported, whether by choice of a more expensive model to
begin with or by having his own programmer do the programming work,
which then normally gets shared all over.

On the other hand, a cheap device, that has been produced by the
zillions often uses proprietary protocols to control it.

Due to the low cost, there is less general interest to struggle with the
proprietary protocol, and it may be a copyright violation to reverse
engineer it, especially as the amount of time and specialized work
required to reverse engineer the device for the information needed to
write a back end is much greater than in the case of an expensive model
which uses a standard protocol that has likely already been reverse
engineered, and needs only minimal patching in the programming.

Also, since the owners paid little for the device, they are less likely
to be willing and able to help support the support of that device.

Most of this information is public and on various websites, but it is up
to each user to do his own research.

Added to this, some of the added software may be open source, but hosted
on paid repositories. This helps cover the high cost of hosting, aside
from the open source factor.

Use and cost of these repositories will be described on their web pages.
Some of them may also offer for download compiled RPM

Re: [users] Legal documents

[David Hoehns]

Joe

Look at Tool->Line Numbering.  Then set the numbering how you want it.

dh

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From: "JOE Conner" 
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:21 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [users] Legal documents


 On 7/8/2010 2:03 PM, Sam Warren wrote:
Is there a way to make legal documents on OpenOffice with each line 
numbered on

the left margin?


Sam Warren edi...@sdwriteway.org
San Diego WriteWay
Bookwarren Publishing Services
3922 Eighth Ave., Studio 1, San Diego, CA 92103
Voice: (619) 674-3066  *  Fax: (619) 550-1167
http://www.SDWriteWay.org / http://www.Bookwarren.com




Check out http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/node/3931
and 
http://www.smalldataproblem.org/ooextras/download.php?file=Pleading.stw


Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA


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[users] re: ANN: English Grammar Checker Extension for OpenOffice.org

[Raphael Mudge]

Hi NoOp,
From: NoOp 
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:41:30 -0700
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Subject: ANN: English Grammar Checker Extension for OpenOffice.org
> Thanks Raphael. BTW: testing:

> why aren't we all get along?
> You not look good today.

> http://www.polishmywriting.com/
> shows "No writing errors were found.".

> Seems a bit odd to me.
I get this a lot. I recommend that you use a larger sample or visit: 
http://www.afterthedeadline.com/features.slp to see a few demonstrations. 
> This might be of interest:
> 
I saw this article a while ago. I appreciate the author making readers aware 
that no proofreading technology will replace rereading and editing your work. I 
think the rest of it is a rant that dismisses the hard work that goes into 
projects like LanguageTool and Readability Report. 
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