[users] Re: Re: Re: spell checking apostrophe ('s)

2005-09-28 Thread Paul_B
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:02:41 -0400, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:

>> What I'm saying is you could take your list of words... oh dear,
>> I just found out that OO has no Title Case option. I was going to
>> say select your whole list and go Format/change case/ title case.
>> 
> 
> FYI, Andrew Brown's macros do enable Title Case and the macro also lets
> the user toggle through the various modes. See the ooomacros link on 
> http://documentation.openoffice.org/thirdparty.html
> for this.
> 
> [snipped]


Thank you, G. I see that this is true - for one word at a time.

This is not directed at you. I appreciate your trying to help.
But I'm finding that almost every time I try to dive into
something with OO I get stymied. It's fine for basic functions,
but for advanced things it's logic is very much unintuitive. I
was up and running with mail merge in Word in ten minutes; it
took me about 2 hours in OO. Macros I still haven't gotten to
first base with. Frames are not documented.

I'm not complaining, I'm stating. I need to get a handle on this
situation. I believe in OO. I would like to make MS irrelevant. I
would even pay for OO if it did the job.

This leaves me in a difficult situation. At present it's very
hard for me to grow into OO. But I do not want to go back to MS.

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[users] Re: Re: Re: spell checking apostrophe ('s)

2005-09-29 Thread Andrew Brown
Paul_B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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> Thank you, G. I see that this is true - for one word at a time.
> 

What do you think it should do: make every word in the selection title 
case?

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[users] Re: Re: Re: spell checking apostrophe ('s)

2005-09-29 Thread Paul_B
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:03:20 -0700 (PDT), Alan Mead wrote:

> Paul_B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> In short, another case of being frustrated by the way this
>> program is organized. This is something I could do three ways in
>> Word, easily. Sorry I wasn't more help.
> 
> I recall very nearly destroying my 486 in frustration the first time
> I used Word because it did not have a reveal codes... So, on the one
> hand, I can sympathize with your frustration but on the other hand
> this is just how it goes when moving from one program to the next.
> 
> Have you seen slides of the new office 12?  At least visually, OOo
> seems closer to Word than the new Word does!
> 
> -Alan

Interesting comparison. I think the lack of Reveal Codes is a
very valid criticism of Word et. al.

I'm in Word97, and no I haven't seen later versions. Frankly, my
fave processor to this day goes back to Lotus Ami Pro 3.1, the
most advanced WYSIWYG of its day. Shame they killed their own
child for the disastrous Word Pro. It was downhill from there.

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[users] Re: Re: Re: spell checking apostrophe ('s)

2005-09-29 Thread Paul_B
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:49:30 + (UTC), Andrew Brown wrote:

> Paul_B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
>> Thank you, G. I see that this is true - for one word at a time.
>> 
> 
> What do you think it should do: make every word in the selection title 
> case?

Hi Andrew,

I don't see the downside to capitalizing each word in the
Selection, and I see a lot of upside to it.

Regards,
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[users] Re: Re: Re: spell checking apostrophe ('s)

2005-09-30 Thread Andrew Brown
Paul_B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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> I don't see the downside to capitalizing each word in the
> Selection, and I see a lot of upside to it.
> 

Two downsides: since I wrote it for myself, what I wanted, usually, was 
sentence case; the other objection is that proper title case usually makes 
exceptions for certain small words, at least when they occur in the middle 
of the string to be title cased. ("at", "of", "the"). If anyone has a list 
of such words, it would be useful.

In the meantime, I have rolled a version which does what you want, I think. 
I'll stick a revised version of the macro document up later today. 

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[users] Re: Re: Re: spell checking apostrophe ('s)

2005-09-30 Thread Andrew Brown
Wangshanpo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:433D1C12.3060400
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> Sadly this is a set of names that I've been using for over 12 years 
> added in to M$ Word, (wash your mouth out) without hassle. Incidentally 
> the set comes as lower-case plain text and M$ has no problem with this, 
> even allowing names to be in title case and/or apostrophed.
> 

It is possible to do this be editing the dictionary files directly; and 
certainly the en-GB dictionary files produced by Pyxidium allow for that 
kind of thing. It's just not terribly easy. We really ought to put in a bug 
request. 

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Re: [users] Re: Re: Re: spell checking apostrophe ('s)

2005-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 19:38 -0400, Paul_B wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:02:41 -0400, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
> 
> >> What I'm saying is you could take your list of words... oh dear,
> >> I just found out that OO has no Title Case option. I was going to
> >> say select your whole list and go Format/change case/ title case.
> >> 
> > 
> > FYI, Andrew Brown's macros do enable Title Case and the macro also lets
> > the user toggle through the various modes. See the ooomacros link on 
> > http://documentation.openoffice.org/thirdparty.html
> > for this.
> > 
> > [snipped]
> 
> 
> Thank you, G. I see that this is true - for one word at a time.
> 
> This is not directed at you. I appreciate your trying to help.
> But I'm finding that almost every time I try to dive into
> something with OO I get stymied. It's fine for basic functions,
> but for advanced things it's logic is very much unintuitive. I
> was up and running with mail merge in Word in ten minutes; it
> took me about 2 hours in OO. Macros I still haven't gotten to
> first base with. Frames are not documented.

May I suggest that you have a look at the 1.1.x User Guide
( http://tinyurl.com/8zlay ) and/or the 2.0 User Guide
(http://tinyurl.com/bwfrp) both have lots on frames. Plus on
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/index.html there are also
all the OOoAuthors guides. Bound to be something on frames in these too.
Lots on macros too.

Then there are the other repositories at
http://documentation.openoffice.org/ like the HOW-TOs and so on.  I
think by using these you might be able to get your head around frames.
As to mail merge, I believe this is also documented in the guides while
the on-line help could be considered a bit techie it is there too. 2.0
is still a work in progress so I do not know how mail merge will  work
at release time. However, I do know there is work being done to also
have mail merge in 2.x work directly with email.


> 
> I'm not complaining, I'm stating. I need to get a handle on this
> situation. I believe in OO. I would like to make MS irrelevant. I
> would even pay for OO if it did the job.

It does and that search on the main site doesn't work well enough to
bring up what is on docs doesn't help you or others either.
( http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52046 )

> 
> This leaves me in a difficult situation. At present it's very
> hard for me to grow into OO. But I do not want to go back to MS.
> 

I have recognized that getting to existing docs can be a huge problem.
That is one of the reasons I answer here even when I should be working
on the 2.0 guide and setup guide and doc project admin stuff :-) so
people can find something to help them get going. I would ask anyone who
can to get on board docs and contribute where possible. 


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