[users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[Per]

Congrats to Microsoft who got there suite "ISO-certified"

If the vote was "dirty", well it´s not up to me to investigate
but there are a lot of voices on this mail-list against OOXML, and 
Microsoft ad there products in common.. the reasons ??


a big hate to Microsoft, and Windows, an IE, and Ballmer, and Gates, 
that the OS is costing money, the Office-suite is costing money, /(as an 
example, Adobes products cost a whole lot of money to, but I don´t hear 
any comment about that fact)/ and. etc, etc


I asume that all of these voices never had there fingers on a machine 
with Windows or MS-DOS, that they never wrote a letter in the BAD 
Microsoft Word, or made a spreadsheet in Excel.. or maybe they have done 
this...  ;-)  



I´m on Win XP, running OO.o, MS Office XP, I have used MS Office since 
-93. I think it´s a good suite (for my needs) AND so are OO.o. I´m 
looking at Ubuntu, but so far it´s only looks I giving that OS...


If Linux is so much better than Windows, why isn´t everybody switching?
If OO.o is so much better than MS Office suite, why isn´t everybody 
switshing??


I mean, zero bucks, to a lot of bucks for MS products..

So it can´t be the price.. so what is it then ???


I thing the answer is marketing, marketing and marketing

Most common citizens on the planet, plain people, runs a machine with a 
version of Windows, legal or not... they run perhaps, MS Works, any MS 
Office-suite, legal or not.


If the goal is to get many users that is running OO.o, there must be a 
massive marketing, ads and so on.
Lift up the good stuff about OO.o, not that it is ISO-certified etc, and 
ALL that other techical-mumbojumbo.. it´s only scares the regular user, 
´cause there are a lot of users out there with just a little bit of a 
knowledge about computers, trying to learn more about to handle a 
computer, and burping up techical crap...

Nah, they don´t get impressed... they don´t give a s**t about that fact..

Why you should use OpenOffice.org ??? Try to find som many answers to 
that question to the person you trying to convince that OO.o is a good 
substitute to Microsofts product. And please, do it without the 
"tinfoilhat"-look in your face...   :-D 

And don´t forget... if anyone has paid for his/hers Windows and MS 
Office... why should they switch?? ´Cause it´s only suckers that run 
MS-products??
Let them run there paid-for products, but point out the good stuff about 
OO.o.


Trying to getting in to the business-world is harder... because there 
are so many other systems "built on" products from Microsoft. At least 
for "larger" business. It should be easier - perhaps - to reach owners 
in small business etc.



There is a lot of preassure on the development-team so they are doing a 
superb version 3.0, making more people discovering OpenOffice.org.


But, I´m pretty sure, to get more users on OO.o, there has to be more 
marketing-activities Metro-ads etc.



Best regards

// Per



Joseph skrev:



No   first graders maybe.   



Christina Godinez wrote:
This is a david versus goliath..  Microsoft has the money to corrupt 
those countries to make it an iso standard. What type of common sense 
that these country's government has? You can ask any 5 year which one 
do they prefer, one that is free and or one that cost money?   Are 
the government of these countries "smarter than a 5th grader?"

James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Joseph wrote:
 

James Knott wrote:
   

Joseph wrote:
 

James Knott wrote:
   

Fred A. Miller wrote:
 

Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval

Mary Jo Foley: Microsoft is now confirming that OOXML won the 
vote for ISO standards approval. Reports indicate that the OOXML 
won 75 percent of the vote after being soundly defeated last fall.


http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1304&tag=nl.e589


That's if you can claim they "won" after all the cheating etc., 
that went on. Apparently there are at least a couple of protests 
in the works.



  

So what does this mean, if I may ask?


In what respect? As things stand, it will become an ISO "standard". 
However, unlike most other ISO standards, there was blatant 
cheating, such as ballot stuffing, committees ignoring majority 
votes, "rules" made up on the fly, bought votes etc., to the point 
there's a real stink being raise, to the point in at least two 
countries, the committees are filing protests. It's quite plain to 
see that in this case, ISO approval was bought, which means that 
all ISO standards must now be suspect, as you don't know if someone 
paid for them. However, what happens if enough votes are reversed 
to kill this?


The whole point of this, was so that Microsoft could claim "ISO 
standard", so that government etc., are more likely to buy their 
new office versions, in order to force lock in.



  

Oh I get it. ISO Ignorant Slob Orchestrated???




Actually, it's "I sold out".

  



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Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Oops... I read it April 1, so I thought it was a joke...

J.R.

2008/4/2, Per <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Congrats to Microsoft who got there suite "ISO-certified"
>
> If the vote was "dirty", well it´s not up to me to investigate
> but there are a lot of voices on this mail-list against OOXML, and
> Microsoft ad there products in common.. the reasons ??
>
> a big hate to Microsoft, and Windows, an IE, and Ballmer, and Gates, that
> the OS is costing money, the Office-suite is costing money, /(as an example,
> Adobes products cost a whole lot of money to, but I don´t hear any comment
> about that fact)/ and. etc, etc
>
> I asume that all of these voices never had there fingers on a machine with
> Windows or MS-DOS, that they never wrote a letter in the BAD Microsoft Word,
> or made a spreadsheet in Excel.. or maybe they have done this...  ;-)
>
> I´m on Win XP, running OO.o, MS Office XP, I have used MS Office since
> -93. I think it´s a good suite (for my needs) AND so are OO.o. I´m looking
> at Ubuntu, but so far it´s only looks I giving that OS...
>
> If Linux is so much better than Windows, why isn´t everybody switching?
> If OO.o is so much better than MS Office suite, why isn´t everybody
> switshing??
>
> I mean, zero bucks, to a lot of bucks for MS products..
>
> So it can´t be the price.. so what is it then ???
>
>
> I thing the answer is marketing, marketing and marketing
>
> Most common citizens on the planet, plain people, runs a machine with a
> version of Windows, legal or not... they run perhaps, MS Works, any MS
> Office-suite, legal or not.
>
> If the goal is to get many users that is running OO.o, there must be a
> massive marketing, ads and so on.
> Lift up the good stuff about OO.o, not that it is ISO-certified etc, and
> ALL that other techical-mumbojumbo.. it´s only scares the regular user,
> ´cause there are a lot of users out there with just a little bit of a
> knowledge about computers, trying to learn more about to handle a computer,
> and burping up techical crap...
> Nah, they don´t get impressed... they don´t give a s**t about that fact..
>
> Why you should use OpenOffice.org ??? Try to find som many answers to that
> question to the person you trying to convince that OO.o is a good substitute
> to Microsofts product. And please, do it without the "tinfoilhat"-look in
> your face...   :-D
> And don´t forget... if anyone has paid for his/hers Windows and MS
> Office... why should they switch?? ´Cause it´s only suckers that run
> MS-products??
> Let them run there paid-for products, but point out the good stuff about
> OO.o.
>
> Trying to getting in to the business-world is harder... because there are
> so many other systems "built on" products from Microsoft. At least for
> "larger" business. It should be easier - perhaps - to reach owners in small
> business etc.
>
>
> There is a lot of preassure on the development-team so they are doing a
> superb version 3.0, making more people discovering OpenOffice.org.
>
> But, I´m pretty sure, to get more users on OO.o, there has to be more
> marketing-activities Metro-ads etc.
>
>
> Best regards
>
> // Per
>
>
>
> Joseph skrev:
>
> >
> >
> > No   first graders maybe.   
> >
> >
> >
> > Christina Godinez wrote:
> >
> > > This is a david versus goliath..  Microsoft has the money to corrupt
> > > those countries to make it an iso standard. What type of common sense that
> > > these country's government has? You can ask any 5 year which one do they
> > > prefer, one that is free and or one that cost money?   Are the government 
> > > of
> > > these countries "smarter than a 5th grader?"
> > > James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  Joseph wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > James Knott wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Joseph wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > James Knott wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mary Jo Foley: Microsoft is now confirming that OOXML won
> > > > > > > > the vote for ISO standards approval. Reports indicate that the 
> > > > > > > > OOXML won 75
> > > > > > > > percent of the vote after being soundly defeated last fall.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1304&tag=nl.e589
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's if you can claim they "won" after all the cheating
> > > > > > > etc., that went on. Apparently there are at least a couple of 
> > > > > > > protests in
> > > > > > > the works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > So what does this mean, if I may ask?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > In what respect? As things stand, it will become an ISO
> > > > > "standard". However, unlike most other ISO standards, there was 
> > > > > blatant
> > > > > cheating, such as ballot stuffing, committees ignoring majority votes,
> > > > > "rules" made up on the

Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[James Knott]

Per wrote:

Congrats to Microsoft who got there suite "ISO-certified"

If the vote was "dirty", well it´s not up to me to investigate
but there are a lot of voices on this mail-list against OOXML, and 
Microsoft ad there products in common.. the reasons ??


a big hate to Microsoft, and Windows, an IE, and Ballmer, and Gates, 
that the OS is costing money, the Office-suite is costing money, /(as an 
example, Adobes products cost a whole lot of money to, but I don´t hear 
any comment about that fact)/ and. etc, etc


No, it's not because it costs money to use Microsoft products.  The 
reason is because of the well documented, often illegal methods that 
they use to force market share.




I asume that all of these voices never had there fingers on a machine 
with Windows or MS-DOS, that they never wrote a letter in the BAD 
Microsoft Word, or made a spreadsheet in Excel.. or maybe they have done 
this...  ;-) 

I´m on Win XP, running OO.o, MS Office XP, I have used MS Office since 
-93. I think it´s a good suite (for my needs) AND so are OO.o. I´m 
looking at Ubuntu, but so far it´s only looks I giving that OS...


If Linux is so much better than Windows, why isn´t everybody switching?
If OO.o is so much better than MS Office suite, why isn´t everybody 
switshing??


Many people simply don't know any better. Because of Microsoft dominance 
of the industry, they simply haven't had the opportunity.


I mean, zero bucks, to a lot of bucks for MS products..

So it can´t be the price.. so what is it then ???


I thing the answer is marketing, marketing and marketing

Most common citizens on the planet, plain people, runs a machine with a 
version of Windows, legal or not... they run perhaps, MS Works, any MS 
Office-suite, legal or not.


If the goal is to get many users that is running OO.o, there must be a 
massive marketing, ads and so on.
Lift up the good stuff about OO.o, not that it is ISO-certified etc, and 
ALL that other techical-mumbojumbo.. it´s only scares the regular user, 
´cause there are a lot of users out there with just a little bit of a 
knowledge about computers, trying to learn more about to handle a 
computer, and burping up techical crap...

Nah, they don´t get impressed... they don´t give a s**t about that fact..


Take a look at some of the coverage about how OOXML was forced through 
ISO to see what MS does to force market share.


Why you should use OpenOffice.org ??? Try to find som many answers to 
that question to the person you trying to convince that OO.o is a good 
substitute to Microsofts product. And please, do it without the 
"tinfoilhat"-look in your face...   :-D
And don´t forget... if anyone has paid for his/hers Windows and MS 
Office... why should they switch?? ´Cause it´s only suckers that run 
MS-products??
Let them run there paid-for products, but point out the good stuff about 
OO.o.


Trying to getting in to the business-world is harder... because there 
are so many other systems "built on" products from Microsoft. At least 
for "larger" business. It should be easier - perhaps - to reach owners 
in small business etc.



There is a lot of preassure on the development-team so they are doing a 
superb version 3.0, making more people discovering OpenOffice.org.


But, I´m pretty sure, to get more users on OO.o, there has to be more 
marketing-activities Metro-ads etc.






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Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[M Henri Day]

2008/4/2, Per <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Congrats to Microsoft who got there suite "ISO-certified"
>
> If the vote was "dirty", well it´s not up to me to investigate



Perhaps doesn't realise that the integrity of the ISO-certifying process is
important to us all. Corporate manipulation of standards, of course, is
nothing new and did not begin with, nor, presumably, will it end with
Microsoft, but it is vital that such attempts are revealed for what they are
and resisted. In the meantime, Per can continue to run OOo on Windows XP ;
no one is trying to take that privilege from him

Henri

Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[Joseph]

Hey, Johnny, Microsoft IS a joke   The day was just befitting.




Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Oops... I read it April 1, so I thought it was a joke...

J.R.

2008/4/2, Per <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Congrats to Microsoft who got there suite "ISO-certified"

If the vote was "dirty", well it´s not up to me to investigate
but there are a lot of voices on this mail-list against OOXML, and
Microsoft ad there products in common.. the reasons ??

a big hate to Microsoft, and Windows, an IE, and Ballmer, and Gates, that
the OS is costing money, the Office-suite is costing money, /(as an example,
Adobes products cost a whole lot of money to, but I don´t hear any comment
about that fact)/ and. etc, etc

I asume that all of these voices never had there fingers on a machine with
Windows or MS-DOS, that they never wrote a letter in the BAD Microsoft Word,
or made a spreadsheet in Excel.. or maybe they have done this...  ;-)

I´m on Win XP, running OO.o, MS Office XP, I have used MS Office since
-93. I think it´s a good suite (for my needs) AND so are OO.o. I´m looking
at Ubuntu, but so far it´s only looks I giving that OS...

If Linux is so much better than Windows, why isn´t everybody switching?
If OO.o is so much better than MS Office suite, why isn´t everybody
switshing??

I mean, zero bucks, to a lot of bucks for MS products..

So it can´t be the price.. so what is it then ???


I thing the answer is marketing, marketing and marketing

Most common citizens on the planet, plain people, runs a machine with a
version of Windows, legal or not... they run perhaps, MS Works, any MS
Office-suite, legal or not.

If the goal is to get many users that is running OO.o, there must be a
massive marketing, ads and so on.
Lift up the good stuff about OO.o, not that it is ISO-certified etc, and
ALL that other techical-mumbojumbo.. it´s only scares the regular user,
´cause there are a lot of users out there with just a little bit of a
knowledge about computers, trying to learn more about to handle a computer,
and burping up techical crap...
Nah, they don´t get impressed... they don´t give a s**t about that fact..

Why you should use OpenOffice.org ??? Try to find som many answers to that
question to the person you trying to convince that OO.o is a good substitute
to Microsofts product. And please, do it without the "tinfoilhat"-look in
your face...   :-D
And don´t forget... if anyone has paid for his/hers Windows and MS
Office... why should they switch?? ´Cause it´s only suckers that run
MS-products??
Let them run there paid-for products, but point out the good stuff about
OO.o.

Trying to getting in to the business-world is harder... because there are
so many other systems "built on" products from Microsoft. At least for
"larger" business. It should be easier - perhaps - to reach owners in small
business etc.


There is a lot of preassure on the development-team so they are doing a
superb version 3.0, making more people discovering OpenOffice.org.

But, I´m pretty sure, to get more users on OO.o, there has to be more
marketing-activities Metro-ads etc.


Best regards

// Per



Joseph skrev:



No   first graders maybe.   



Christina Godinez wrote:

  

This is a david versus goliath..  Microsoft has the money to corrupt
those countries to make it an iso standard. What type of common sense that
these country's government has? You can ask any 5 year which one do they
prefer, one that is free and or one that cost money?   Are the government of
these countries "smarter than a 5th grader?"
James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Joseph wrote:




James Knott wrote:


  

Joseph wrote:




James Knott wrote:


  

Fred A. Miller wrote:




Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval

Mary Jo Foley: Microsoft is now confirming that OOXML won
the vote for ISO standards approval. Reports indicate that the OOXML won 75
percent of the vote after being soundly defeated last fall.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1304&tag=nl.e589



  

That's if you can claim they "won" after all the cheating
etc., that went on. Apparently there are at least a couple of protests in
the works.






So what does this mean, if I may ask?



  

In what respect? As things stand, it will become an ISO
"standard". However, unlike most other ISO standards, there was blatant
cheating, such as ballot stuffing, committees ignoring majority votes,
"rules" made up on the fly, bought votes etc., to the point there's a real
stink being raise, to the point in at least two countries, the committees
are filing protests. It's quite plain to see that in this case, ISO approval
was bought, which means that all ISO standards must now be suspect, as you
don't know if someone paid for them. However, what happens if enough votes
are reversed to kill this?

The whole point of this, was so that Microsoft could claim "ISO
standard", so that governmen

Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[The Beaver]

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:



James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Joseph wrote:




James Knott wrote:


  

Joseph wrote:




James Knott wrote:


  

Fred A. Miller wrote:




Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval

Mary Jo Foley: Microsoft is now confirming that OOXML won
the vote for ISO standards approval. Reports indicate that the OOXML won 75
percent of the vote after being soundly defeated last fall.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1304&tag=nl.e589



  

That's if you can claim they "won" after all the cheating
etc., that went on. Apparently there are at least a couple of protests in
the works.






So what does this mean, if I may ask?



  

In what respect? As things stand, it will become an ISO
"standard". However, unlike most other ISO standards, there was blatant
cheating, such as ballot stuffing, committees ignoring majority votes,
"rules" made up on the fly, bought votes etc., to the point there's a real
stink being raise, to the point in at least two countries, the committees
are filing protests. It's quite plain to see that in this case, ISO approval
was bought, which means that all ISO standards must now be suspect, as you
don't know if someone paid for them. However, what happens if enough votes
are reversed to kill this?

The whole point of this, was so that Microsoft could claim "ISO
standard", so that government etc., are more likely to buy their new office
versions, in order to force lock in.






Oh I get it. ISO Ignorant Slob Orchestrated???



  

Actually, it's "I sold out".







It's called indoctrination and begins on the first day that a child 
enters government (public) schools. It's about politics, morality, and 
the age old good vs evil.


In the U.S. It was determined that in order to completely control a 
child's mind, indoctrination must begin before kindergarten and so they 
invented “head start.”


When the child enters public school, the teacher has no experience. 
He/she probably lived with mommy and daddy while attending college and 
has never had a job or ever created any employment, invented a product, 
or anything else of value. The teacher has only read books, has no 
experience, and can only teach what she/he knows.


Microsoft is a big company and gives the school some software to get the 
children familiar with the way MS works. Government agencies send 
employees and department heads to MS training classes. When I was in IT 
in Arizona, I was looked at as a rogue for suggesting Linux web servers 
instead of MS. We developed a policy that gov employees change their 
password every 30 days and so the employees made post-it notes with 
their password and stuck them to their monitor so they would not forget. 
Government employees are incredibly stupid. They attend MS classes to 
further the indoctrination process.


The child is never taught that MS did not create DOS, but rather bought 
or stole every single line of code ever sold by the company in the early 
years.


As the child grows, he/she is never given a choice in the marketplace. 
All computers have Windoze installed, unless he/she want to build their 
own system.


All the while, the media perpetuates this Satanic plan with the same 
fervor they use to convince democrats that abortion is simply a matter 
of choice, tax the rich for being productive, give the poor a meager 
stipend to make them dependent, and place a mark of renegade on the 
people that think for themselves, rather than follow the MS paid leader.


The child sooner or later realizes the truth that MS software is 
inferior, but buys windoze anyway in order to support the masses. 
Develop software with the biggest client base, and becomes a part of the 
problem. He buys MS Word so people can read his files. She throws away 
the Beta max in favor of VHS because it is the standard, not because it 
is better.


The college professor perpetuates the process and teaches products made 
by MS because that is what the marketplace uses, not because it is good, 
but because everyone has it.


If there was a hundred countries that MS wanted to spread around 100 
million each, it would not be a very large expenditure in the scheme of 
things considering that one years sales as a result, paid it all back 
and made it a zero investment.


MS, with all of it's employees, has never invented anything. A lot of 
the code for windows 3.1 came from Robert Lundahl, a BYU graduate, which 
wrote a program called LaserType and Hewlett Packard recommended 
LaserType in it's sales literature of the newly invented HP Laser Jet+ 
which was the first printer to use downloadable soft fonts and Robert 
Lundahl did not have the money to do anything about the theft.


Even to this day, MS simply buys or steals technology.

Floyd








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Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[web at work]

Below is an interesting comment.  I would like to ask this question;
who will pay for the marketing plan that is suggested?

The Open Source concept is not geared to make money.  Who will
start collecting money to pay for a mass marketing plan that could
get the message out there like MS does.

Do you know how much a typical multimedia ad campaign costs?
Do you know how much MS spends to get people to use their
products, even if it does not do what is needed?  Do you know
how much money MS put into the campaign to get people to
upgrade their "out of date" Office 2003/etc. to Office 2007?

OpenOffice.org is free, so who is going to collect money for it and
use it for paying for the advertisements and other things MS uses
to get their message across?

The OOo web site states that version 1 had over 49 million downloads
in two years.  Version 2 came out in October 2005.  How many downloads
has version 2 racked up since then?  Then tell me how many
dollars did OOo spend to get people to download version 1?  Zero,
since it is Open Source and it is free.  How many people would have
bought a paid version of an Office suite in those two years if there
was no paid advertisements?  Not 49 million, most likely not even
one million.  If you get so many people to download an Office suite
without money spent to get them to do so, THEN there must be something
good about the suite.

OOo does not have the money that MS has, or even the other top 100
software companies.  It has no money at all, yet the message is getting
across and more and more people/governments/countries are using
this no advertisement Office suite.

We all can speculate what if OOo had the money to buy the market
share for its software, but it is only a dream.  OOo is free and MS
is doing everything (legal and illegal) they can to get their customers
to keep buying their products and not to switch to pen source
software. Yet more and more copies of OOo are being used.  OOo
user number is growing without paying for a single advertisement.
I think that is one of the big things that "scare" MS's marketing people.

Word of mouth for OOo is all that is needed for it to grow.  Not counting
the people on this list helping support the product FOR FREE.  Try
getting free support from MS.

That is my - long winded - opinion.



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Subject: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other 
thoughts...




Congrats to Microsoft who got there suite "ISO-certified"

If the vote was "dirty", well it´s not up to me to investigate
but there are a lot of voices on this mail-list against OOXML, and
Microsoft ad there products in common.. the reasons ??

a big hate to Microsoft, and Windows, an IE, and Ballmer, and Gates,
that the OS is costing money, the Office-suite is costing money, /(as an
example, Adobes products cost a whole lot of money to, but I don´t hear
any comment about that fact)/ and. etc, etc

I asume that all of these voices never had there fingers on a machine
with Windows or MS-DOS, that they never wrote a letter in the BAD
Microsoft Word, or made a spreadsheet in Excel.. or maybe they have done
this...  ;-)


I´m on Win XP, running OO.o, MS Office XP, I have used MS Office since
-93. I think it´s a good suite (for my needs) AND so are OO.o. I´m
looking at Ubuntu, but so far it´s only looks I giving that OS...

If Linux is so much better than Windows, why isn´t everybody switching?
If OO.o is so much better than MS Office suite, why isn´t everybody
switshing??

I mean, zero bucks, to a lot of bucks for MS products..

So it can´t be the price.. so what is it then ???


I thing the answer is marketing, marketing and marketing

Most common citizens on the planet, plain people, runs a machine with a
version of Windows, legal or not... they run perhaps, MS Works, any MS
Office-suite, legal or not.

If the goal is to get many users that is running OO.o, there must be a
massive marketing, ads and so on.
Lift up the good stuff about OO.o, not that it is ISO-certified etc, and
ALL that other techical-mumbojumbo.. it´s only scares the regular user,
´cause there are a lot of users out there with just a little bit of a
knowledge about computers, trying to learn more about to handle a
computer, and burping up techical crap...
Nah, they don´t get impressed... they don´t give a s**t about that fact..

Why you should use OpenOffice.org ??? Try to find som many answers to
that question to the person you trying to convince that OO.o is a good
substitute to Microsofts product. And please, do it without the
"tinfoilhat"-look in your face...   :-D

And don´t forget... if anyone has paid for his/hers Windows and MS
Office... why should they switch?? ´Cause it´s only suckers that run
MS-products??
Let them run there paid-for products, but point out the good stuff about

Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[Richard Detwiler]

Can this thread be killed or moved to another list? It's getting very 
tedious. (And no, I don't work for MS nor am I a fan of MS.)


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Re: [users] About Microsoft: OOXML wins ISO approval, and other thoughts...

[Michael Adams]

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:19:27 -0400
web at work wrote:

> 
> Below is an interesting comment.  I would like to ask this question;
> who will pay for the marketing plan that is suggested?
> 
> The Open Source concept is not geared to make money. 

Conjecture, innacurate and guesswork.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=making+money+from+open+source
9.3 million hits

[snip]

And it sort of goes downhill from there. If you are going to speculate,
do it from a position of knowledge.

-- 
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416

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